Zilano and Smith's thread - Off topic debate

[AetherScientist]

I open this thread to discuss about what happened with Zilano and the debate in the Don Smith's devices too good to be true thread.

By this, we will prevent to discuss about other thing non related with smith's technology in the original smith's thread.

[vidbid]

I just want to say that I am very saddened by the departure of Zilano. She brought some very good ideas to the forum. She will be deeply missed.

I hope that I didn't say anything to offend her. If I did, I'm very sorry.

[AetherScientist]

I missed to Zilano each time she take more time to answer into the forum.

The thing I don't know is why people insulted her. I've not read part of the discussion because I traveled 2 hours in car, but what the guy said to Zilano?

[kajunkreations]

Hey A.S., I think what happened was that to many untested ideas, circuits, theories and thoughts got in the way of the device at hand. Imagine someone new showing up and trying to sift through all the different things that are posted. How would you know what to believe with so many untested circuits ect.. when some forum members dont agree with them and some do. I believe there should be a place for untested circuits and theories, some where other than the thread for a specific device. Now if its a new tested circuit and can help in some way, whether it be for the device at hand or as a learning tool, well then it should be welcome. If it is not tested, then it should not be put up as creditable information.

[AetherScientist]

Hey A.S., I think what happened was that to many untested ideas, circuits, theories and thoughts got in the way of the device at hand. Imagine someone new showing up and trying to sift through all the different things that are posted. How would you know what to believe with so many untested circuits ect.. when some forum members dont agree with them and some do. I believe there should be a place for untested circuits and theories, some where other than the thread for a specific device. Now if its a new tested circuit and can help in some way, whether it be for the device at hand or as a learning tool, well then it should be welcome. If it is not tested, then it should not be put up as creditable information.

Well, I agree. Too many in too little time. I think that has been the problem. Not to post unproven concepts. Posting too much unproven concepts in a very short time.
Some of them have been good accepted (as the compass one). Others not.

How would you know what to believe with so many untested circuits ect..

I posted a lot with the intention of offering variety. I thought too many ideas = more opportunities to a big number of public.
You decide what you want to believe and what you don't want to believe. I'm not saying that all is 100% true. I only give a non-conventional explanation to help to understand better Don Smith's device. The ideas are not mine (as I've mentioned in the other thread). But I condensed the most relevant ones.
Then, I write them in a friendly language, with graphical examples.

For me, that kind of information is useful.

[vidbid]

Zilano

I missed to Zilano each time she take more time to answer into the forum.

The thing I don't know is why people insulted her. I've not read part of the discussion because I traveled 2 hours in car, but what the guy said to Zilano?

She is a very lovely young lady, and ladies need to be treated with respect. Obviously, she thought she was disrespected. I probably should have said something in her defense, but I didn't think that she was that sensitive. Apparently, I was wrong.

I really didn't take her threat to remove her comments seriously. Well, she meant it.

In response to your query, this was the first offending quote:

Hey Zardox, I notice the same thing, I have sat in the back for sometime. You are right that is exactly what happens, someone will show a awesome experiment that actually can be replicated and the non experimenters just ignore it and follow the other non experimenters. It really just pisses me off! These guys jack up the thread so much that all the use full info gets discombobulated. You know why people dont experiment, cause it is expensive! I have spent thousands, not hundreds on my research, and many others have spent more than me. Now granted it is my hobby and I totally accept my expenditure, but I dont want some COPY and PASTE, crayon drawing theorist trying to guide my way.

and this was Zilano's response to it:

well said kajunkreations ! am widrawing my crayons drawing and copy paste text and child like graphics with immediate effect. so people can concentrate well and succeed in their goals.

rgds

zzzz

and this would be the challenging counter-response which evidently added insult to injury:

Hey Z, First let me say that I do think you are very knowledgeable. I think you have a very profound knowledge of radiant energy theory, but you do contradict yourself quite often. Just about everything you post can be found somewhere else, but I do admire that take the time to present it to others, but all the jumping around from device to device and theory to theory really hurts the research others are trying to do. Im not trying to discredit you, if you really have answers, give them in a fashion that can be proven.

Thanks
Nolan

Well, there you have it.

[AetherScientist]

Ooops sorry
I understood other different thing (english is not my native language)
If I knew that Zilano had any problem I would entered in the conversation.
If Zilano is reading these lines, I'm really sorry.


I respect her decission to stay away from this forum at least for a while.
I didn't knew anything about Zilano before starting here. But searching in google I saw that she is a very knowledgeable woman and I would really appreciate to spend much more time with her.
She seems to be one of the smallest number of people that really understands what she is talking about.

I want to contact her, but nobody has some kind of information (Email...)

I won't post again in technical areas until the guys apologize. And after... I will think if I post again or not. I really respect Zilano and her decission and I want people with high level of respect.

[AetherScientist]

From here I dedicate a very beautiful song to Zilano:

Alanis Morissette - Princes Familiar - YouTube

All the best,
Hope to get in contact with you soon

[vidbid]

Trolls

Ooops sorry
I understood other different thing (english is not my native language)
If I knew that Zilano had any problem I would entered in the conversation.
If Zilano is reading these lines, I'm really sorry.


I respect her decission to stay away from this forum at least for a while.
I didn't knew anything about Zilano before starting here. But searching in google I saw that she is a very knowledgeable woman and I would really appreciate to spend much more time with her.
She seems to be one of the smallest number of people that really understands what she is talking about.

I want to contact her, but nobody has some kind of information (Email...)

I won't post again in technical areas until the guys apologize. And after... I will think if I post again or not. I really respect Zilano and her decission and I want people with high level of respect.

@AetherScientist

You're free to do as you choose, of course. However, it's my considered opinion that that guy will never apologize. One of the problems we experience in this type of environment is that some people fail use good manners or proper online etiquette. The degree that that happens depends on several factors, which I won't go into, but suffice it to say, well, we have a word for them, that being, "trolls" and they can strike when you least expect it, doing the most damage with the least amount of energy being expended by them.

Well, there you have.

[vidbid]

Zilano

@AetherScientist

Great idea about dedicating a song.

It took me a while to find it as I forgot the name of it, but I remembered it had Uilleann pipes. I first heard it in 2009. It's by Davey Spillane.

I would like to dedicate this song to Zilano.

Long version: Caoineadh Cu Chulainn - YouTube It takes a few seconds to load up.

Abbreviated version: Uilleann Pipes song by Davey Spillane - YouTube It loads quickly.

Sometimes you can't go back, but sometimes you can.

I guess it's about knowing the difference.

[Slovenia]

Great Guys!!!

AetherScientist & Vidbid,

You guys are great guys indeed!!! I have great respect for you fellows.

Best Regards,
David Fine / Slovenia

[vidbid]

Black Armband for Zilano

http://img692.imageshack.us/img692/3887/insupportofzilano.png

Please copy and paste this image as a show of your support for Zilano either in a post here or somewhere else.

If somewhere else, a permalink posted here would be nice.

Special thanks to David Fine / Slovenia

[vidbid]

In Support of Zilano



I will be the first.

[vidbid]

In Support of Zilano

And I'll be the first again.

http://www.energeticforum.com/renewa...tml#post190653

[AetherScientist]

I support her too.