The displacement of Aether by the EM wave (photon)

[Ruphus]

((pi*((x/y)^2))*cos(2y))/6)+((pi*((y/x)^2))*cos(2y))/6)+((pi*((x/y)^2))*cos(2x))/6)+((pi*((y/x)^2))*cos(2x))/6)


For those with Google Chrome browsers, you can copy and paste this into your search bar and google with 3D graph it. It looks messy but it's the only way google would graph it.


I am working on the EM wave displacement of aether and how this displacement looks as well as carries energy. The above equation is the volume of all possible cones, however it is the reaction displacement not the action, so I used cosine instead of sine (the shadow in other words). Also both slopes x/y and y/x are included to complete the volume of a cylinder.

You can see the delay of the electric part (red) of the EM wave as it goes outward. The blue I believe is the magnetic. In the top center is part of the flower of life (zoom in). From the sides we can see the intensity pattern similar to a single slit experiment. As the displacement moves out from its origin it grows and splits in a conical manner (zoom out). Notice the magnetic displacement is negative, which may be why we see no "magnetic arcs".

I don't know if this is even correct or if google is making the calculations correct, but I do feel it is close to an EM aether displacement of energy or a photon.

If you have chrome, please take 2 minutes to look at it and see what you think.


Thanks for any advise or information that may help to complete this.

[Gazzasore]

No I have no idea whats its about

[Ruphus]

Thanks Gazzasore. Its apparently from a book cover.




If anyone knows what the picture above represents please post here as it is the same as looking "down" onto the z axis of the equation.

It was being discussed here

Russian site

[de_broglie_pilot_wave]

de Broglie's pilot wave is an aether displacement wave. The following article may help.

'Interpretation of quantum mechanics by the double solution theory - Louis de BROGLIE'
http://aflb.ensmp.fr/AFLB-classiques/aflb124p001.pdf

“When in 1923-1924 I had my first ideas about Wave Mechanics I was looking for a truly concrete physical image, valid for all particles, of the wave and particle coexistence discovered by Albert Einstein in his "Theory of light quanta". I had no doubt whatsoever about the physical reality of waves and particles.”

“any particle, even isolated, has to be imagined as in continuous “energetic contact” with a hidden medium”

The hidden medium of de Broglie wave mechanics is the aether. The “energetic contact” is the state of displacement of the aether.

"For me, the particle, precisely located in space at every instant, forms on the v wave a small region of high energy concentration, which may be likened in a first approximation, to a moving singularity."

A particle is a moving singularity which has an associated aether displacement wave.

In a double slit experiment the particle travels a well defined path which takes it through one slit. The associated wave in the aether passes through both. As the aether wave exits the slits it creates wave interference. As the particle exits a single slit the direction it travels is altered by the wave interference. This is the wave piloting the particle of pilot-wave theory. Detecting the particle strongly exiting a single slit destroys the coherence between the particle and its associated wave in the aether.

[Ruphus]

Thanks for the reply

I have been recently thinking that pilot wave theory has a good bit of meat to it. The double slit is interference caused by a displacement's own wave exiting the slit. Also looking at Feynman if photons are bowed waves such as ))))) then depending on the observer's location, the breaking point of the wave to the observer is a tangent of the curved aether. I hope that makes sense. So in other words, intensity varies along the curve dependent on the observer's angle to the direction of motion of the wave.

Looking at photons as these types of waves also allows us to drop the photon particle all together and simply treat light like ringed waves of aether travelling out from a vibrating source similar to ripples in a pond from an oscillating bobber. The breaking point is the "particle".

If that is the case then what is the the bobber? Looking at pair production, if we directed the two photon waves toward each other the addition of the two waves may cause a break of "surface tension" in the aether allowing a spray of aether to leave the wave aether. Is this spray the particles? I have no clue.
Another possibility, two wave moving together like this )( could form two opposite solitons like a Y and an upside down Y touching each other.

And that is my problem with most theories in physics they go to a point and things are just speculation.

I think the photon's aether displacement has to do with the volume of a cone and that is what I need help with.

[de_broglie_pilot_wave]

In a double slit expeirment the particle is always detected entering, traveling through and exiting a single slit. This is evidence the particle always enters, travels through and exits a single slit and it is the associated wave in the aether which passes through both.

Wave-particle duality is a moving particle and its associated wave in the aether.

Since we disagree with the particle nature of wave-particle nature I will leave you to your thread.

Good luck.

[Ruphus]

This picture is from a book of prof.Nikolayev and tells us that there is (founded by Nikolayev) so-called longitudinal electromagnetic field in addition to all-known transverse EMF.
Good luck!

Can anyone direct me to some english versions of this guy's work? Thanks.

[Ruphus]

The first equation my be just the B field displacement of aether.

This may be the E field displacement:

((pi*(6(x/y)^2))*sin(2y))/6)+((pi*(2(y/x)^2))*sin(2y))/6)+((pi*(6(x/y)^2))*sin(2x))/6)+((pi*(2(y/x)^2))*sin(2x))/6)

Please understand that this is all possible displacements along two axis. In reality it would be one at a time from 0 outward. Notice the alternating pattern of "positive" and "negative" displacements in a spiral like pattern.

The one equation should be on the using x z axis and the other on the y z axis but google doesn't have the ability.

Thanks for looking.

[socratus]

de Broglie's pilot wave is an aether displacement wave. The following article may help.

'Interpretation of quantum mechanics by the double solution theory - Louis de BROGLIE'
http://aflb.ensmp.fr/AFLB-classiques/aflb124p001.pdf

“When in 1923-1924 I had my first ideas about Wave Mechanics I was looking for a truly concrete physical image, valid for all particles, of the wave and particle coexistence discovered by Albert Einstein in his "Theory of light quanta". I had no doubt whatsoever about the physical reality of waves and particles.”

“any particle, even isolated, has to be imagined as in continuous “energetic contact” with a hidden medium”

The hidden medium of de Broglie wave mechanics is the aether. The “energetic contact” is the state of displacement of the aether.

"For me, the particle, precisely located in space at every instant, forms on the v wave a small region of high energy concentration, which may be likened in a first approximation, to a moving singularity."

A particle is a moving singularity which has an associated aether displacement wave.

In a double slit experiment the particle travels a well defined path which takes it through one slit. The associated wave in the aether passes through both. As the aether wave exits the slits it creates wave interference. As the particle exits a single slit the direction it travels is altered by the wave interference. This is the wave piloting the particle of pilot-wave theory. Detecting the particle strongly exiting a single slit destroys the coherence between the particle and its associated wave in the aether.

What the light quanta are:
‘ All these fifty years of conscious brooding have brought me
no nearer to the answer to the question, 'What are light quanta?'
Nowadays every Tom, Dick and Harry thinks he knows it, but he is mistaken. ‘
/ Einstein /

[Ruphus]

Am not impling that I understand the quanta that makes a photon at all. I just find it extremely interesting that the EM wave packet shape that we measure as a photon closely resembles the shape of the equation in the first post, which coincidentally is the volume of all cones. Light goes outward from the source in a cone shape. Like I said before it may be nothing but a coincidence. Thanks for the reply.

[socratus]

Am not impling that I understand the quanta that makes a photon at all.
I just find it extremely interesting that the EM wave packet shape
that we measure as a photon closely resembles the shape of the
equation in the first post, which coincidentally is the volume of all cones.
Light goes outward from the source in a cone shape.
Like I said before it may be nothing but a coincidence.
Thanks for the reply.

If the source of photon is an atom, then you are correct.
Photon leaves the atom as an EM wave packet shape which goes as a volume of cone.
Than the distance from source is more far - the cone is more sharper.
But if the source of photon is the vacuum - the situation is different.

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[Ruphus]

Interesting, I was not aware that the shape of a photon is distorted in space. Can you explain please, or just direct me with a few links?

[socratus]

Interesting,
I was not aware that the shape of a photon is distorted in space.
Can you explain please, or just direct me with a few links?

According to SRT the form of photon isn't strict / firm
it is distorted ( it is compressed in the direction of its movement)
Of course , this answer isn't full.
The full answer can be received when we will understand what photon is.
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[Ruphus]

Yes but length is relative so wouldn't shape and volume be relative? It all depends on if you are the photon or the observer. So regardless where the photons are or traveling in, they go outward from the source in a cone shape. Even a lasers width spreads over distance from what I have read.

[socratus]

Yes but length is relative so wouldn't shape and volume be relative?
It all depends on if you are the photon or the observer.
So regardless where the photons are or traveling in, they
go outward from the source in a cone shape.
Even a lasers width spreads over distance from what I have read.

If the length according to SRT is relative then it means that
the shape / form of photon and its volume is relative too.
And it means that photon moving with constant speed c=1
has no volume, has no charge, has no em waves and therefore
cannot look or produce any cone form.
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