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    Quantum particles and Aether.

    Maybe you know that surrounding space ( a reference frame )
    makes influence on the objects that exist there.
    For example, the fish in the water has another form than
    animals which live in the forest or savanna.
    The same is about quantum particles and aether.
    Quantum particles exist in an Aether.
    The physical parameters of aether is near to T=0K.
    This thermodynamic condition has influence on quantum particles.
    =.
    According to Charle’s law and the consequence of the
    third law of thermodynamics as the thermodynamic temperature
    of a system approaches absolute zero the volume of particles
    approaches zero too. It means the particles must have flat forms.
    They must have geometrical form of a circle: pi= c /d =3,14 . .
    ( All another geometrical forms : triangle, square, rectangle . . .etc
    have angles and to create angles need forces,
    without forces all geometrical forms must turn into circle.)
    #
    If physicists use string-particle (particle that has length but
    hasn’t thickness -volume) to understand reality
    (and have some basic problems to solve this task) then
    why don’t use circle-particle for this aim ?
    ===.
    Best wishes.
    Israel Sadovnik Socratus.
    ===.

  • #2
    The creators of quantum physics
    ( Einstein, Bohr, Heisenberg, de Broglie, . . Feynman . . . and others )
    wanted to understand the reality of quantum micro-world
    visually and literally as in the classical physics, but , . . without success .
    And today's physicists (creating many abstractions ) invented the slogan :

    ' We want to protect ourselves from too literally
    and therefore vulgar comprehension.'

    Maybe this is scientific joke, maybe it is their motto
    but from scientific point of view our existence seems paradoxical.

    Can the real and visual existence of everything around us
    ( or the beginning of existence of everything )
    be paradoxical or it have logical explanation ?
    #
    And we cannot understand reality without reference frame – aether.
    Without to understand what aether is all debates is tautology.
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    • #3
      Some details

      Charles' Law was formulated in 1787
      . . . . . .
      because gas consist on particles i take this law to the particles.
      this is my first heretical -idea.

      and because Charles' Law belongs to the temperature
      of absolute zero T=0K i take this law to the nothingness - vacuum T=0K
      it is my second heretical-idea

      and because Charles' Law belongs to the theory of ideal gas
      i take this theory to the nothingness- vacuum
      this is my third heretical - idea
      ==,,

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      • #4
        Originally posted by socratus View Post
        Quantum particles and Aether.

        Maybe you know that surrounding space ( a reference frame )
        makes influence on the objects that exist there.
        For example, the fish in the water has another form than
        animals which live in the forest or savanna.
        The same is about quantum particles and aether.
        Quantum particles exist in an Aether.
        The physical parameters of aether is near to T=0K.
        This thermodynamic condition has influence on quantum particles.
        =.
        According to Charle’s law and the consequence of the
        third law of thermodynamics as the thermodynamic temperature
        of a system approaches absolute zero the volume of particles
        approaches zero too. It means the particles must have flat forms.
        They must have geometrical form of a circle: pi= c /d =3,14 . .
        ( All another geometrical forms : triangle, square, rectangle . . .etc
        have angles and to create angles need forces,
        without forces all geometrical forms must turn into circle.)


        ===.
        Best wishes.
        Israel Sadovnik Socratus.
        ===.
        check this out :

        0 (number) - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia

        India

        The concept of zero as a number and not merely a symbol for separation is attributed to India, where, by the 9th century AD, practical calculations were carried out using zero, which was treated like any other number, even in case of division.[13][14] The Indian scholar Pingala (circa 5th-2nd century BC) used binary numbers in the form of short and long syllables (the latter equal in length to two short syllables), making it similar to Morse code.[15][16] He and his contemporary Indian scholars used the Sanskrit word śūnya to refer to zero or void.
        ..... your ideas are not so heretical after all

        and because Charles' Law belongs to the theory of ideal gas
        i take this theory to the nothingness- vacuum
        this is my third heretical - idea
        makes sense that aether is "the ideal gas" .....
        Signs and symbols rule the world, not words nor laws.” -Confucius.

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        • #5
          Originally posted by MonsieurM View Post
          check this out :

          0 (number) - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia

          ..... your ideas are not so heretical after all

          makes sense that aether is "the ideal gas" .....
          From modern physics' point of view "the ideal gas" doesn't exist.
          But somehow (using small changes) the ideal gas becomes real gas.

          From modern physics' point of view vacuum with parameter T=0K
          doesn't have meaning.

          Book : ‘Dreams of a final theory’
          by Steven Weinberg. Page 138.
          ‘ It is true . . . there is such a thing as absolute zero; we cannot
          reach temperatures below absolute zero not because we are not
          sufficiently clever but because temperatures below absolute zero
          simple have no meaning.’
          / Steven Weinberg. The Nobel Prize in Physics 1979 /

          But from the other hand, vacuum is most important conception
          in physics because somehow ( through small changes - vacuum fluctuation )
          from 'no meaning vacuum ' the real particles appears.

          Physics is full with many abstractions.
          But under these abstractions are hidden old ancient ideas.
          =.
          There isn't news under the sun.
          We can only understand the old ideas in a new interpretation..
          ==…
          1
          " The problem of the exact description of vacuum, in my opinion,
          is the basic problem now before physics. Really, if you can’t correctly
          describe the vacuum, how it is possible to expect a correct description
          of something more complex? "
          / Paul Dirac ./
          2.
          The most fundamental question facing 21st century physics will be:
          What is the vacuum? As quantum mechanics teaches us, with
          its zero point energy this vacuum is not empty and the word
          vacuum is a gross misnomer!
          / Prof. Friedwardt Winterberg /
          3
          Although we are used to thinking of empty space as containing
          nothing at all, and therefore having zero energy, the quantum
          rules say that there is some uncertainty about this. Perhaps each
          tiny bit of the vacuum actually contains rather a lot of energy.
          If the vacuum contained enough energy, it could convert this
          into particles, in line with E-Mc^2.
          / Book: Stephen Hawking. Pages 147-148.
          By Michael White and John Gribbin. /
          4.
          ‘ All kinds of electromagnetic waves ( including light’s)
          spread in vacuum . . . . thanks to the vacuum, to the specific
          ability of empty space these electromagnetic waves can exist.’
          / Book : To what physics was come, page 32. R. K. Utiyama. /
          5..
          Vacuum -- the very name suggests emptiness and nothingness –
          is actually a realm rife with potentiality, courtesy of the laws
          of quantum electrodynamics (QED). According to QED,
          additional, albeit virtual, particles can be created in the vacuum,
          allowing light-light interactions.
          Physics news Update 768
          6.
          When the next revolution rocks physics,
          chances are it will be about nothing—the vacuum,
          that endless infinite void.
          Nothingness of Space Could Illuminate the Theory of Everything | DiscoverMagazine.com
          #
          . . . .etc.
          ==..

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          • #6
            I see what you are getting at now Socrates. I must agree the fundamentals of aether is the perfect vacuum. I wonder though, shouldn't a vacuum exsist in an atom in which case there would be unaccounted for energy in e=mc^2 for an atom bomb? Or perhaps that is the amount of energy released from collapsing the vacuum?

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            • #7
              Originally posted by Ruphus View Post
              I see what you are getting at now Socrates.
              I must agree the fundamentals of aether is the perfect vacuum.
              I wonder though, shouldn't a vacuum exsist in an atom in which
              case there would be unaccounted for energy in e=mc^2 for an atom bomb?
              Or perhaps that is the amount of energy released from collapsing the vacuum?
              The structure of the simplest atom is almost empty.
              The energy of electron in atom is:
              E=me^4/ 2h*^2 = -13,6 eB
              The negative mark of energy shows that electron tied in atom.
              1900, 1905, 1913
              Planck, Einstein and Bohr found the energy of electron as: E=h*f.
              1916
              Sommerfeld found the formula of electron : e^2=ah*c,
              1928
              Dirac found two more formulas of electron’s energy:
              +E=Mc^2 and -E=Mc^2.
              According to QED in interaction with vacuum electron’s
              energy is infinite: E= ∞
              Questions.
              Why does the simplest particle - electron have sis ( 6 ) formulas ?
              What is interaction between them?
              Why does electron obey five ( 5) Laws ?
              a) Law of conservation and transformation energy/ mass
              b) Maxwell’s equations
              c) Heisenberg Uncertainty Principle / Law
              d) Pauli Exclusion Principle/ Law
              e) Fermi-Dirac statistics.
              What is interaction between them?
              Nobody knows.
              ====..
              What is an electron ?
              Now nobody knows
              In the internet we can read hundreds theories about electron
              All of them are problematical.
              ====.
              Quote by Heinrich Hertz on Maxwell's equations:

              "One cannot escape the feeling that these mathematical formulae
              have an independent existence and an intelligence of their own,
              that they are wiser than we are, wiser even than their discoverers,
              that we get more out of them than was originally put into them."
              ==.
              The banal electron is not as simple as we think and, maybe,
              he is wiser than we are.
              =====.

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              • #8
                Interesting that you feel an atom is mainly empty space. I think you may be missing a critical point, no space is empty. There must be a medium in which the EM field of the subatomic particals travels through. It is still aether there as well I would assume. Like you pointed out it is all speculation and we may never figure it out.

                I like your thoughts on temperature, very interesting. How about vacuum pressures vs potential? Any thoughts there?

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                • #9
                  I will have to read up more on QED. I don't see how E is infinite when we can create and destroy electrons in pair production.

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                  • #10
                    Why Minkowski spacetime is a flat vacuum ?
                    =.
                    ‘ A world without masses, without electrons, without an
                    electromagnetic field is an empty world. Such an empty
                    world is flat. But if masses appear, if charged particles
                    appear, if an electromagnetic field appears then our world
                    becomes curved.
                    Its geometry is Riemannian, that is, non- Euclidian.’
                    / Book ‘Albert Einstein’ The page 116 . by Leopold Infeld. /
                    #
                    The WMAP satellite showed that the universe as a whole is flat.
                    ==..
                    according to SRT photon at speed c=1 must be a flat particle.
                    according to thermodynamics at absolute zero particle doesn't
                    have volume and must be a flat particle.
                    =.
                    Neither point nor string particle, but flat – circle particle
                    (c/d=pi=3,14) can explain the initial conditions of existence
                    =.

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