Thinking about Photon.

[socratus]

Thinking about Photon.
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When photon moves at light of speed
( about 299 792 458 m/s .c=1) then photon itself shrinks into
a flat geometrical figure ( light - photon doesn't shrink outside
distance, road or spacetime )
Conclusion:
According to SRT photon is not a firm particle,
it can change its geometrical form.
2
When photon moves at light of speed ( about 299 792 458 m/s. c=1 )
its own time is zero ( infinite )
Question:
Where does the ours known time come from?
3
Gravity can change the straight movement of photon,
Question:
Where does the gravity come from?
4
In which reference frame photon moves, if gravity
( as Sun and many others outside gravity objects )
can change photon's movement ?
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[socratus]

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Moon, Sun and many others gravity objects exist in a vacuum
2
One postulate of SRT says that the speed of photon
in the vacuum ( !!! ) is constant c=1.
3
Then on the one hand, as a peasant, I think that photon must move
in the vacuum, but on the other hand physicists talk me the photon
moves in the negative 4D Minkowski space = spacetime.
And nobody explain me what spacetime really is.
Then it seems to me that I find myself in a church or synagogue.
And I never could understand the priest or rabbi even
they are scientists with PhD in their pockets.
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[socratus]

The majority = geniuses ( technology) + comic ( philosophy ) =
= Our modern education.
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[MonsieurM]

The majority = geniuses ( technology) + comic ( philosophy ) =
= Our modern education.
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a recent article

New mathematical model links space-time theories

[socratus]

a recent article

New mathematical model links space-time theories

Only two things are infinite, the universe and human stupidity,
and I'm not sure about the former.
/ Albert Einstein /

[socratus]

Our knowledge about Photon.
‘ All these fifty years of conscious brooding have brought me
no nearer to the answer to the question, 'What are light quanta?'
Nowadays every Tom, Dick and Harry thinks he knows it,
but he is mistaken. ‘
/ Einstein 1954 /

Our knowledge about Electron .
1900 – 1905.
Planck and Einstein found the energy of electron: E=h*f.
1916
Sommerfeld found the formula of electron : e^2=ah*c,
1928
Dirac found two more formulas of electron’s energy:
+E=Mc^2 and -E=Mc^2.
According to QED in interaction with vacuum electron’s
energy is infinite: E= ∞
Questions.
Why does the simplest particle - electron have five ( 5 ) formulas ?
What is interaction between them?
Why does electron obey five ( 5) Laws ?
a) Law of conservation and transformation energy/ mass
b) Maxwell’s equations
c) Heisenberg Uncertainty Principle / Law
d) Pauli Exclusion Principle/ Law
e) Fermi-Dirac statistics.
What is interaction between them?
Nobody knows.
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In the internet we can read hundreds theories about electron
All of them are problematical
We can read hundreds books about philosophy of physics,
but how can we trust them if we don’t know what electron is ?
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Quote by Heinrich Hertz on Maxwell's equations:

"One cannot escape the feeling that these mathematical formulae
have an independent existence and an intelligence of their own,
that they are wiser than we are, wiser even than their discoverers,
that we get more out of them than was originally put into them."

And in 1904 Lorentz proved: there isn’t em waves without Electron
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Ladies and Gentlemen !
Friends !
Electron is not as simple as we think and, maybe, he is wiser than we are.
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What is energy of photon ?
The energy of photon is: E=h*f.
What is the energy of electron ?
The energy of an electron is: E=h*f.
What is difference between photon and electron ?
Frequency makes difference between them.
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Book " Isaac Newton "
by Soviet academician S. I. Vavilov:
‘ For photons with extremely high fluctuations,
. . . ., in experience was observed the remarkable
phenomenon of transformation them in electrons.
And undoubtedly, a reverse process is also possible.’
/ page 94. /
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Frequency is the key to everything
Frequency makes difference between particles.
( in my opinion the frequency is result of the quantum spin -s )
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Strings of gravity vibrate at a different frequency than strings of light.
/ Roy H. Williams /
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Conclusion from some article:
One of the best kept secrets of science is
that physicists have lost their grip on reality.
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Best wishes.
Israel Sadovnik Socratus
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[socratus]

We know electron by what it does, not by what it is.
The geniuses technology + a comic philosophy = Our modern education.
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[Ruphus]

I was once stuck on this as well. Then I read some of the ideas here


Physics Discussion Forum • Index page


The administrator is quite helpful. He has laid out an interesting way of answering many of your questions above. Read the first posts of the sections they are his.

[socratus]

In which reference frame the photon exist?
Nobody gives answer and therefore someone wrote:
' If you try to search for 'reference frame ' for the photon
'emission & re-emission', you will find only some
'Quantum-Mechanics' Mumbo jumbo and very little else.'
My answer.
When the quantum of light moves with the constant speed c=1
the time for him is ‘frozen’ - stopped. Time doesn’t exist for him.
In the other words, he has eternal time.
It means that the reference frame where the quantum of light moves
also must be eternal, absolute.
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[socratus]

The History of Existence was written by Quantum of Light.

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Photon- Electron self identity problems.
The energy of x-ray photon is E=h*f
The energy of radio photon is E=h*f
The energy of electron is E=h*f
What is difference between quantum particles ?
The frequency makes difference.
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Dualism of quantum particle depends on its behavior, on its impulse ( h or h* ).
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[socratus]

An interaction between electron and photon.
“ . . when there is a change of state the electron either releases
or absorbs a photon and its location changes from one discrete
energy pattern to another discrete energy pattern around the nucleus.
. . . . these things,
they are very well explained by the standard model of physics”
/ from an email /
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How can an electron ( slower than c ) emit photon at c=1?
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Book:
' Now take the electron. Even if its velocity is close to that
of light – 10^10 cm/s – it will have a momentum of only
about 10^-17 g cm/s. The gamma photon used for
illumination has a very short wavelength ( say, 6 10^13 cm)
and a momentum of 10^-14, which is thousands of times that
of the electron. So, when a photon hits an electron, it is like
a railway train smashing into a baby- carriage.’

/ Book: ABC’s of quantum mechanics. By V. Rydnik. Page 98-99. /
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This is “very well explained by the standard model of physics” !! ??
Opinions, please.
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[socratus]

An interaction between electron and photon.
“ . . when there is a change of state the electron either releases
or absorbs a photon and its location changes from one discrete
energy pattern to another discrete energy pattern around the nucleus.
. . . . these things,
they are very well explained by the standard model of physics”
/ from an email /
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How can an electron ( slower than c ) emit photon at c=1?
==.
Book:
' Now take the electron. Even if its velocity is close to that
of light – 10^10 cm/s – it will have a momentum of only
about 10^-17 g cm/s. The gamma photon used for
illumination has a very short wavelength ( say, 6 10^13 cm)
and a momentum of 10^-14, which is thousands of times that
of the electron. So, when a photon hits an electron, it is like
a railway train smashing into a baby- carriage.’

/ Book: ABC’s of quantum mechanics. By V. Rydnik. Page 98-99. /
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This is “very well explained by the standard model of physics” !! ??
Opinions, please.
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As Richard Feynman wrote in 1985 :
‘ . . .the interaction between light ( electromagnetic fields ) and matter is strange.’
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[ahura999]

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[socratus]

Thinking about why photon has constant speed Einstein
decided that something must be happened with the space and time.
And then (to have time) he took distance ( d=vt ) and divided on
constant speed of quantum of light (c) and had negative time
(t =d/c=1/ 3 X 10^8 meters/second) . Later Minkowski (trying to understand
SRT ) took this negative time as a positive (! ) geometrical 4D- dimension (!)
and gave his math-geometrical interpretation.
In the beginning many physicists said that it is impossible to 1 second
be equal to 1 centimeter or 1 meter, or as someone wrote:
1 second = 1 second to you whether you are travelling at 40mph,
or 400,000,000mph. But this abstraction somehow was adopted.
Why this idea was adopted? Maybe because of its beauty.
One physicist said me : it is impossible to be physicist
if you don’t understand the beauty of Minkowski SRT explanation .
Maybe, he is correct on 100% , but there is a very small problem:
nobody knows what Minkowski space is.
About 2500 years ago Plato wrote:
‘. . by Beauty that beautiful things are beautiful . . .
by largeness that large things are large and larger things larger,
and by smallness that smaller things ate smaller . . . .
. . . by tallness one man is taller than another . . .
. . . . and the shorter is shorter by the same ; . . . . . ‘
In my opinion in physics we have situation:
‘. . by Beauty that beautiful theories are beautiful . . .’
Every math beauty must have its own concrete physical and geometrical
parameters. Without these precise physical details we have a pure
mathematical game and many paradoxes in physics.
Therefore more than 100 years the debates around SRT have no end.
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socratus