zeitgeist: a 2007 movie

[bora]

this anonymous documentary, which popped up on the internet this year & has received more than 3 millions views so far, is divided into 3 parts:

[1] the astrological meaning of the bible & christianity as a retelling of previous religions
[2] how did the 9/11 tragedy come about
[3] the us federal reserve, the us schools, the us id chip, etc

Zeitgeist - The Movie, 2007

Zeitgeist -Official Release in Spanish (subtÃ*tulos en español)

[bora]

common ground


I found out about this in the october issue of the common ground magazine, something us residents can subscribe to free of charge

Common Ground: Features


money = your lover

[future pather]

Hi Bora,

This has been posted a couple times, but it is very important and good to bring to attention in case anybody missed it.

Thanks

Jessica

[future pather]

Bora,

Care to summarize any of David's info?

It looks like he has a plan, I wonder what it is. . .


Jessica

[future pather]

Bora,




Jessica

[elias]

About David Icke

Jessica,

I don't trust David Icke so much. Read the attached document.
See Illuminati Confessions by Leo Zagami, Leo Lyon Zagami, Leo Young,

Elias

[bora]

the profound self & the foil

thanks for that file, Elias, i was hoping to get more info on david, zeitgeist, etc.
when i watched david's video on his website i also noticed his being ill, drained of energy, repetitive, which is something mentioned in the attached file Elias provided: "So I phoned Linda Icke. I told her of my concerns. As well as my concerns over David’s historical inaccuracies, lack of occult understanding, and flaws in his reptilian thesis. I said I was concerned that he had stated on radio that he was unusually drained of energy and had been ill for a while. She agreed I may be right and said that David has to face his own mistakes and defend himself in his own way"

whatever this case may be, it's immaterial to me
i'm not into investigation, confrontation, or activism; my interest is self-awareness & it's in that spirit that i've posted everything i posted on the paths forums & all others i ever participated in
also, i tend to think these days that the zeitgeist-icke material is relevant info for anyone interested in individual & collective awareness & the experience of the spiritual reality; for me, at least, it was an eye opener

what i find really interesting is to draw a parallel between:

~ the dark forces (fear, anxiety, angst, anger) & the light force (love) that zeitgeist & david icke & many others are talking about
&
~ my foil/ego (fear, anxiety, angst, anger) & my profound self (love light)

[future pather]

I am extremely please to be having this discussion.

I have looked into a lot of this stuff recently.

To me, I think it is important to recognize that there are dark forces, people and possibly other beings who attempt to keep humanity in a trapped fearful state in order to gain control and power.

At this point it seems to me most likely that the reptilian agenda contains (as the PDF said) some accurate info and some not accurate info.

I want this to be an ongoing discussion so I will just put some of my thoughts here and continue later in another post.

For one thing, I think about how the entire premise is really such a low budget movie plot. It seems the only way that adults go around believing this is because soooooo much of the info out there seems to me a very very carefully constructed blend of the truth and lies.

This makes it seem credible.

Here is something I noticed in researching this: There is an overwhelming amount of info about grays and repitilians in the media (E.T., the Sigorney Weaver movies, etc.) and the "fringe" information.

If the logic is that we can't be the only intelligent life because the cosmos are so expansive, how can it be that there are only grays, reptlians, and us?

That does not make sense.

The info out there on this reptilian agenda is so heavily distributed that the whole vibe of it seems to be a rather desperate smear campaign.

I think it is VERY important to analize all of this, so I am glad to talk about Icke.

Because whether people consciously think about this stuff or not, it is in our subconsciouses somewhere and I think it is best if we can do some sorting out as to what is real about it and what is not.

Sometimes I contact people on youtube when they make certain comments on reptilian agenda youtubes.

One of these people wrote :

If you want to learn more about shape-shifting, baby-eating, space lizards then you should check out David Icke on YouTube. That's his scam, he makes nice money off of it. I spend some of my YouTube time actively mocking them. My comment on "ReptilianMuseum" was merely sarcasm.

and also

It's a multi-million dollar industry that thrives on the internet, and all the sad, unhappy people out there.

I am not at all putting anyone down for believing in the stuff because if it is not true, someone or some group is making an increadible effort to lead people to believe in the concept.

Here is one guy that seemed genuine to me at first.

YouTube - UFO contact Alex Collier interviewed p1

Then I noticed something. Dude, BLINK MUCH!?!?!? Blinking is a sign of lying. There is one youtube post of his guy where somebody commented that he is a professional in analyzing body language and that his guy is either lying for sure or at least telling someone else's story. I forget the reasons he noted for determining this, but the blinking wasn't even one of them.

Also it seems a very easy way to discredit someone famous who may have worked hard all his life to simply claim that person is part of this whole plot, like say Al Gore.

On the other hand, the murals in the Denver airport are real. They are far too bizarre to be anything but some kind of plot so there is something up.

I have some more things I've found on this. I will keep posting and I hope others do too.

XO Jessica

[elias]

My conclusions about these conspiracy theories

Hello everyone,

I have put so much time and effort to find the truth and see who is who on these conspiracies and so on.

First of all we should understand that by that the more we read conspiracy theories and the more we pay attention to evil works of evil men we INCREASE their power actually!! (By the law of attraction)

So I concluded that we must just get an IMPULSE yes just a glimpse from the bad truth and then constantly think and act in the opposite manner very HOPEFULLY. (Think about Jesus and pray for his return or any other savior which I believe God has intended to bring about)

There is something for sure in all of this:

We are ruled by evil men and they will do anything they can to establish a World Government, and they want to keep the people in a state of fear.

About the reptilian agenda I have concluded that yes there actually exists other life forms, no one can deny it but they are not allowed (by God) to interfere with us, they only can cause deception. (Claiming that they have implanted the human DNA is one of their deceptions)

I personally think that David Icke and similar people are distracting us from these New World Order criminals to some life forms which they call reptilians and ... . They want us to believe that these criminals are not human and are evil beasts. They really want to keep us in a state of fear. We must know that these people (secret societies) are criminals which would indeed be punished after death.

My research has led me to trust Leo Zagami more than others. (At least I am sure he does not make money out of this, and he seems very sincere)
Jessica I really urge you to read this article by him if you are concerned about the Reptilian Agenda The Northern Resistance against the New World Order - www.northernresistance.info

These so called 'reptilians' are called Jinn in Middle Eastern and Islamic jargon and they have been known for a very long time. There are good Jinns as well as evil ones like humans. Jinn means hidden in Arabic. These creatures are hidden from our view normally and are much more flexible in changing shape and so on. I think that they live in physicals terms in Hyperspace, a level beyond our existence. I have attached a photo of a real Jinn (Efrit). This is one of the evil forms of Jinn which have been taken by a photographer when he heard a sound in a cave and entered it. He was found dead at a later time with his camera.
Don't look at it if you don't feel comfortable, but I can assure you that this is a REAL picture of these so called reptilians or whatever. Remember that these creatures can change form and shape. I wanted to clarify things a bit that's why I attached it.

BTW, I think that 911 Ripple Effect - Now Available on DVD is worth looking at.

Kindest Regards

Elias

[elias]

Alex Jones is exposed

Hello

I thought before that Alex Jones must be a disinformation agent and it seems that he really is:
Illuminati News :: Alex Jones Exposed!

Elias