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  • I am trying to used words and analogies that people understand and can visualize.
    Originally posted by TheoriaApophasis View Post
    All you peeps dont realize that magnetism is just the 'dielectric field'

    To think magnetism is something autonomous is as dumb as thinking water is one thing and ice is another, and steam another again.


    1. magnetic attraction doesnt exist, thats not magnetism
    2. a magnet isnt emitting anything,
    ...“There is no energy in matter other than that received from its environment (as meant the Ether).” – Nikola Tesla


    Center of ALL magnetic fields there is no magnetism, center of gravity there is no gravity. Retroductive logic necessitates that there is ONLY ONE FIELD, the dielectric, since magnetism is the dielectric field being express in force of loss of inertia, and electricity is the construct of magnetism and dielectricity working in unison to create a self-reproducing energy construct which propagates, and gravity is merely incoherent dielectric acceleration, or point non-specific mutual mass acceleration towards counterspace.


    People are confused as to why a more powerful magnet has a SMALLER spatial footprint of influence!

    This is due to the fact that a magnet is FAR FAR LESS a MAGNET as implied a MAGNETISM OBJECT than it is a DIELECTRIC DOUBLE VORTEX magneto-dielectric field conjugate system with both field incommensurability but also field coherency.

    A more POWERFUL “magnet” is a far more powerful COUNTERSPATIAL dielectric HYPERBOLIOID geometry which sits over either pole. Typically a N35 GAUSS magnet has a large spatial (IE MAGNETIC!) field, and as you increase the power of the magnet to N40, N50 it becomes much smaller, and ultra high power permanent magnets rated at N55 and higher have much smaller spatially palpable magnetic fields.

    ALL POWER in a “magnet” is translational UPON and TO the dielectric, …not to magnetism

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    • Field

      Originally posted by TheoriaApophasis View Post
      meaningless statement

      NO branch of "science" (read mathematician slime) EVER defined a field itself
      EVER, period,
      ...
      Originally posted by TheoriaApophasis View Post
      All you peeps dont realize that magnetism is just the 'dielectric field'
      ...
      ____________________

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      • Center of ALL magnetic fields there is no magnetism, center of gravity there is no gravity. Retroductive logic necessitates that there is ONLY ONE FIELD, the dielectric, since magnetism is the dielectric field being express in force of loss of inertia, and electricity is the construct of magnetism and dielectricity working in unison to create a self-reproducing energy construct which propagates, and gravity is merely incoherent dielectric acceleration, or point non-specific mutual mass acceleration towards counterspace.

        ΘΕΩΡΙΑ ΑΠΟΦΑΣΙΣ

        you wrapped it up all in 3-4 lines...nice!
        MSc. Electronic and Computer Engineering, TUC, Greece
        MSc. VLSI Systems Engineering, UMIST, U.K.
        BSc. Electronic Systems Engineering, Victoria Univ. Manchester & UMIST

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        • No flow? You might as well say that there are tiny invisible arms that come out of a magnetic pole and grab materials that are susceptible.
          Hmm...an area where stuff happens, then a magical area of mystery.
          Thanks for the academic lesson...not

          Originally posted by bistander View Post
          Hi itzon,
          And there is no flow associated with magnetic flux. It is a field, like gravity. That is a problem associated with using hydraulic analogies. The magnetic field is like a football or soccer field. Nothing going on until the teams occupy it and the game begins. After the game is over, or the work has been done, the field remains. All the work, energy, motion, mass were brought into, or onto, the field. The field just provided a "place" for the event.

          That's the way it is.

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          • Originally posted by bistander View Post
            ____________________
            A field is simple..... Its an Ether (inertia, counterspace, zero point.. blah blah, diff names, same thing......the scumsuckers of the cult of quantum call it "dark matter") modality perturbation.

            A FIELD is an Ether perturbation.

            Nothing EMITS a field anymore so than a person in a pond flapping their arms is EMITTING anything, they disturb the field (in this case the calm waters) .
            Last edited by TheoriaApophasis; 05-29-2018, 11:23 PM.

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            • me try wrap it up also in few words with a riddle.

              There is balloon full with water. Someone is doing a small tear with a knife in the balloon. Water pours out of the balloon.

              Question: What is the balloon? What is the water inside the balloon? What is the water pouring out of the balloon? What is the knife? and who is this mother****er holding the knife and making the tear on the balloon?...

              EM
              p.s. the first who solves the riddle wins a one night stand with the mother****er!...eeeh! I meant wins the knife
              Last edited by Markoul; 05-29-2018, 11:45 PM.
              MSc. Electronic and Computer Engineering, TUC, Greece
              MSc. VLSI Systems Engineering, UMIST, U.K.
              BSc. Electronic Systems Engineering, Victoria Univ. Manchester & UMIST

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              • Originally posted by itzon View Post
                No flow?

                Gryomagnetic precession, or the LARMOR frequency is a 100000% Established FACT
                https://www.flickr.com/photos/134746...in/dateposted/

                NOW, can we call this precession "flow"? Since it has a frequency (which varies)

                force and divergence which ARE magnetism denotatively are connotatively flow, flow of energy (which = loss of inertia/ dielectric, ie magnetism)

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                • Originally posted by itzon View Post
                  No flow? You might as well say that there are tiny invisible arms that come out of a magnetic pole and grab materials that are susceptible.
                  dielectricity is the "space eraser"

                  electrostatic "cling" , is the SAME THING that us dumb humans call "gravity"

                  and is the SAME THING us dumb humans call "magnetic attraction"

                  paper clips "jumping to" a magnet is only the field inducement of a ferromagnetic object(S) to accelerate to the lowest pressure field state, which is CLOSEST proximity BETWEEN the magnet and the clips.

                  magnetism "creates space"
                  dielectric "erases space", or is the "magnetism eraser",

                  Space is only the flatulence of magnetism, as it is

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                  • No flow/little arms

                    Originally posted by itzon View Post
                    No flow? You might as well say that there are tiny invisible arms that come out of a magnetic pole and grab materials that are susceptible.
                    ...
                    You pick a brick up off the floor. Do you see any flow? See any little arms grabbing the brick? Yet would you agree that brick is in a gravitional field and if you drop it, action happens due to the field and the disruption you caused by displacing the brick?

                    You move a piece of steel into a strong magnetic field holding near but not touching the magnet. There is no flow. But when you release your grip, the steel piece moves toward the magnet.

                    Can you understand how things like those examples work with no flow? If not, then make up some little particles or energies like gravitons or virtual photons. Whatever works for you. Lots of people; lots of opinions.

                    Regards,

                    bi

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                    • Latest great video from Mike!

                      [VIDEO]https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=WX9FaMZX58o[/VIDEO]


                      EM
                      MSc. Electronic and Computer Engineering, TUC, Greece
                      MSc. VLSI Systems Engineering, UMIST, U.K.
                      BSc. Electronic Systems Engineering, Victoria Univ. Manchester & UMIST

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                      • Dear Ufopolitcs,

                        Now, please give Us your logical explanation to....how could it be possible that Higher Strength Magnetism (which is perfectly measurable at each POLE) is based on RETURNING (INLET) FLOW and Not a STRONG MAGNETIC EXHAUSTING OUTPUT INTO SPACE?
                        I don't think Hall sensor magnetometers care about ejecting flux lines or seeking flux lines they just need to measure the flux density (number of lines passing through per unit of 2D surface). The measure the magnetic energy per unit surface (density) by using the Hall effect of a electric conductor with an electric current flowing through. Hall effect or Hall voltage is a consequence of the Lorentz force when a magnetic field is nearby an electric current flow inside a conductor surface. Not really so much different from the crt electron beam deflected by a magnet but this time with a solid electric conductor.
                        MSc. Electronic and Computer Engineering, TUC, Greece
                        MSc. VLSI Systems Engineering, UMIST, U.K.
                        BSc. Electronic Systems Engineering, Victoria Univ. Manchester & UMIST

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                        • Originally posted by Ufopolitics View Post
                          How about this below?



                          I agree with your Left Upper Arrow (yellow)...as to the Right Lower one (blue) (Both Circled by Me in white on your picture)...but not with the others, coming out from center...if you notice -the ones which I agree with- they do align going towards center plane.


                          Regards


                          Ufopolitics

                          Dear Ufopolitics,

                          After consideration I concluded that the above pump (fountain) model you depict can not be true.

                          Why ?

                          Because for the observer facing a pole of a magnet, he/she will see exatly the same picture and rotation in both poles of the magnet!

                          So where is the counter geometry and counter rotation flow in your magnet responsible for the N and S polarity of a dipole magnet?


                          We all know there is a difference between N and S pole for an observer (by observer I don't mean necessaserely our eyes, could be as well an other magnet or a crt electron beam).

                          You can not deny this. Poles maybe in essence the same thing x2 but their counter orientation in space produces their counter rotational flux.

                          If they were exactly the same in rotation for an observer top view, a crt beam would NOT deflect different according to what magnetic polarity we are approaching? Right?

                          https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=RqSode4HZrE&t=69s


                          EM
                          MSc. Electronic and Computer Engineering, TUC, Greece
                          MSc. VLSI Systems Engineering, UMIST, U.K.
                          BSc. Electronic Systems Engineering, Victoria Univ. Manchester & UMIST

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                          • Originally posted by Markoul View Post
                            Dear Ufopolitics,

                            After consideration I concluded that the above pump (fountain) model you depict can not be true.

                            Why ?

                            Because for the observer facing a pole of a magnet, he/she will see exatly the same picture and rotation in both poles of the magnet!

                            So where is the counter geometry and counter rotation flow in your magnet responsible for the N and S polarity of a dipole magnet?


                            We all know there is a difference between N and S pole for an observer (by observer I don't mean necessaserely our eyes, could be as well an other magnet or a crt electron beam).

                            You can not deny this. Poles maybe in essence the same thing x2 but their counter orientation in space produces their counter rotational flux.

                            If they were exactly the same in rotation for an observer top view, a crt beam would NOT deflect different according to what magnetic polarity we are approaching? Right?

                            https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=RqSode4HZrE&t=69s


                            EM
                            Dear Markoul....Wrong!

                            North-South are just ONE SINGLE SPIN, ONE DIRECTION.

                            Try visualizing this effect by a spinning small motor...say front. connecting shaft facing to your eyes are CCW(NORTH)...Now turn motor on its rear end and look at it...its shaft is now turning CW(SOUTH)...However, we all know it is only one shaft...

                            For further graphics about this scenario, please refer to my DIY CRT Thread...

                            Kind regards


                            Ufopolitics
                            Last edited by Ufopolitics; 05-30-2018, 01:11 PM.
                            Principles for the Development of a Complete Mind: Study the science of art. Study the art of science. Develop your senses- especially learn how to see. Realize that everything connects to everything else.― Leonardo da Vinci

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                            • Dear Markoul....Wrong!
                              Ufopolitics,


                              I am never wrong!...hhe hehe! just kidding

                              yes of course it is the same with my pc fan analogy turn it over and air flow direction will change, reverse the skew angle of the fins and the air flow will reverse for the the same direction of rotation of the fan.

                              All what i am saying is that this is not showing up in your diagram.

                              Kind Regards,

                              EM
                              MSc. Electronic and Computer Engineering, TUC, Greece
                              MSc. VLSI Systems Engineering, UMIST, U.K.
                              BSc. Electronic Systems Engineering, Victoria Univ. Manchester & UMIST

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                              • Originally posted by Markoul View Post
                                Ufopolitics,


                                I am never wrong!...hhe hehe! just kidding

                                yes of course it is the same with my pc fan analogy turn it over and air flow direction will change, reverse the skew angle of the fins and the air flow will reverse for the the same direction of rotation of the fan.

                                All what i am saying is that this is not showing up in your diagram.

                                Kind Regards,

                                EM
                                I could have sworn I posted something yesterday, but I don't see it here now.

                                Let me repeat:

                                Please don't make this a thread about magnetism. It's about the cell.
                                Seeing and describing the visual effects of the cell is one thing, but don't forget the opposite is true- you can use the cell and magnetism to control the direction of light !

                                Continuing on with my mysterious missing post, I ask:
                                What happens when you shine light thru a grid of slits?"

                                I'll extent this question to include cylinders.
                                Lets assume these cylinders are 150 to 200 um in length.

                                ????

                                Start by reading this. Even if you don't get the math, the graphics are good.

                                Magneto-optical Kerr effect in resonant subwavelength nanowire gratings - IOPscience

                                After you read it, remember they are basing their results on fixed-substrate grids. The 'grids' in a cell are dynamic and in motion.

                                Instead of their fixed, simple cylinders, the cell makes dual-helix cylinder-shaped thingies that are in motion.


                                More:

                                If it looks like a duck, walks like a duck and quacks like a duck it's either a good imitation or a duck



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