about the Ferrocell (ferrolens)

[BrianKerr]

Finally I have been accepted to post. Thanks Admin. Thanks for inviting me Mikrovolt.

[Markoul]

Hello Brian!

Good to have you here!

EM

[mikrovolt]

Welcome Brian, It started on the UFO/Magnetism thread about Ken Wheeler's book.BTW who is giving lecture on July 5th. in Idaho. The conference has been successful and unique at having great people attending in an atmosphere of learning.

Timm started this thread to address FerroCell as it;s discussion, now has more variety of opinions from different aspects. Having the technology
experts here is great it can gather more interest, new ideas, open new avenues of opportunities.

I am still sorting out the various ways Ferro can help us understand the nano-scale environment of ferro and lipids, small charges acting differently from small iron. Also how the optical effects can be explained takes trained eye in what is being seen.

Sorry but it has been a real struggle to make sense. Possibly this will strengthen and agree in part with the UFO /Ken Wheeler thread as the ferroCell gets more attention in the future.

Thanks for sharing your hard work on youtube and taking the time to join everyone here.

[Selfsimilarity]

Hey guys,

I so far was reading your conversation while waiting for my accounts approval.
As Im back in contact with Timm, I thought to let you know that I want to join this club of awsome people!

Im Pascal, the one that wrote the webpage What really is Magnetism – Some Thoughts – An Analysis investigating Magnetism Energy Dynamics via Ferrocell (Light) & CRT (Electrons) & Matter (Iron filings). Click on the picture below to see my powerpoint presentation

My journey started quite few years ago where I started to ask questions, because after studying biochemistry, I was not able to explain how our medicine works. So I started digging, deeper and deeper. Ended up at Nassim Haramein with Planks spheres and whirmholes, as he still thinks in Gravity as main driver of our cosmos, ending up with black holes etc. Then I found Kens book, when I was in holidays in France surfing. After reading it, everything started to make more and more sense. I ordered a Ferrocell from Timm and started playing, constently asking myself, what I was looking at. I knew it must be something special, as it points to the flower of life and geometry, that our ancectiors aleady were celebrating.

I have a lot of time to think,every evening 5 hours when Im not working for our pharmaceutical startup trying to improve chemotherapy www.innomedica.ch, in case your interested for more info.

So recently, I though it could be likely that we observe a permanent electric field when looking at a permanent magnetic field through ferrocell, it seems to make a lot of sense to me. They are in 90° phase to the iron filing visualization, point-geometric, fractal, toroidal, just like magnetic field and electric fields, currently understood, only visible in presence of energy, such as light (ferrocell) or electrons (crt)

Better read through my webpage than me now writing everything Ive written there.

Its an absolut honor to interact with all of my idols such as Ken and Timm in a common forum It electrifies me, so excited

Hi all

[bistander]

90°

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So recently, I though it could be likely that we observe a permanent electric field when looking at a permanent magnetic field through ferrocell, it seems to make a lot of sense to me. They are in 90° phase to the iron filing visualization, point-geometric, fractal, toroidal, just like magnetic field and electric fields, currently understood, only visible in presence of energy, such as light (ferrocell) or electrons (crt)
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Hi Pascal,

Welcome to this board.

From your paragraph which I quote, the image seen from a ferrocell or CRT resulting from a permanent magnet field is likely that of an electric field and not the magnetic field itself. That concept has merit and fits more closely with what I have been saying.

Thanks for that insight.

bi

[Selfsimilarity]

Hi Bi,

Yes I agree. I think its all about the electric field. What we think about magnetism is rather the effect of the di-electriostatic field.

I think its an electrostatic field that is fully 3-dimensional, permanent opposed spin equilibrium through polarization/disturbance, toroidal, fractal, vibration creating geometry. Resonant/Harmony in relation to matter, pulsed in relation to electron and photon.
The potential is increasing by decreasing volume, up to infinity when infinitely compressed, as light shows. The smaller the wavelength, the higher the energy density. Infinitely small wavelength, infinite potential at zero point. (You cant draw a point, as then it becomes dimensional, its something, yet cant be drawn, everything and nothing at the same time)

[Selfsimilarity]

What do you think about an electric potential of a permanent magnet that is constantly there (field seen in ferrocell). It should be measureable.

[bistander]

Electric potential

What do you think about an electric potential of a permanent magnet that is constantly there (field seen in ferrocell). It should be measureable.

The permanent magnet doesn't have a measurable electric potential. In fact, some rare earth magnet material is electrically conductive. However I think that the magnet's field when interacting with material and energy external to the magnet develops electric potential(s).

Regards,

bi

[TheoriaApophasis]

From the Genius of Dr. Oleg D Jefimenko

he wrote many books and taught electrical theory and was one smart MOFO himself......

Faraday was the originator of the concept of the magnetic field, (which is described in terms of "magnetic curves" our present day "magnetic lines of force") however HE NEVER SO MUCH AS SUGGESTED in his works that induced currents were a resultant of changing magnetic fields. ON THE CONTRARY, he clearly associated the phenomena of electromagnetic induction with changing electrical currents. As per Maxwell, he TOO considered EM induction as a phenomena in which a current (or EM force) is induced in a circuit. but not as a phenomena in which a changing magnetic field causes an electrical field. He CLEARLY said that the induced EM force is "MEASURED BY, not CAUSED BY the changing mag field" Just as Faraday, he made NO allusion to ANY CAUSAL link between magnetic and electric fields - Dr. Oleg D. Jefimenko Causality, Electromagnetic induction & Gravitation

Maxwell too considered the electromagnetic induction as a phenomena in which a current is induced in a circuit, but not as a phenomena in which a changing magnetic field causes and electric field. He clearly said that the induced electromotive force is measured by, not caused by the changing magnetic field. Just as Faraday, he made no allusion to any causal link between magnetic and electric fields. - Dr. Oleg D. Jefimenko Causality, Electromagnetic induction & Gravitation

Neither of Maxwells equations nor their solutions indicate an existence of a causal links between electric and magnetic fields. Therefore we must conclude that an electromagnetic field is a dual entity always having an DIelectric and a magnetic component simultaneously created by their common sources: time variable electric charges and currents. - Dr. Oleg D. Jefimenko Causality, Electromagnetic induction & Gravitation

A time variable electric current creates an electric field parallel to that current. The field exerts an electric force on the charge in the nearby conductors thereby creating induced electric currents in them. This in the term “electromagnetic induction” is an actually a misnomer, since no magnetic effect is involved in the phenomena, and since the induced current is caused solely by the time variable electric current and by the electric field produced by that current. - Dr. Oleg D. Jefimenko Causality, Electromagnetic induction & Gravitation

[Selfsimilarity]

Ken, you mention it to be a dual entity - in an equilibrium.

A Dielectric component, and a magnetic component

But we create the permanent magentic component/field by electron spin alignment not by creating "electrons" itself, thats why I think magnetism of rather being an effect than part of the cause regarding the dual-incomensurable dielectric structure. Retroduction would also say there can only be one thing


Coudnt it be that the electron is a permanent existing purly dielectric structure resulting in permanent magnetic effects such as attraction, repulsion, acceleration that are in 90° phase to the dielectric field?
Couldnt the toroid and the hyperboloid be part of the same one thing? The polarized dielectric "hypertoroboloid"?

Regards,
Pascal

[Markoul]

Occam's razor

Dear Selfsimilarity,

So recently, I though it could be likely that we observe a permanent electric field when looking at a permanent magnetic field through ferrocell, it seems to make a lot of sense to me. They are in 90° phase to the iron filing visualization, point-geometric, fractal, toroidal, just like magnetic field and electric fields, currently understood, only visible in presence of energy, such as light (ferrocell) or electrons (crt)

I present a more intriguing and simple possibility however.

What if the ferrocell shows correctly the magnetic flux of a dipole magnet and iron filings classical experiment DOES NOT?! And just shows the magnetic dipole interactions of the iron filings with a magnet mistakenly taken for more than 200 yeas as the field of the magnet?

After all the right hand rule gives us a 90° difference between the Electric and the magnetic vector, so why you should expect there to be any other difference than that between the Electric flux and the magnetic flux?

BTW, Welcome to the forum!

Kind Regards,

EM

[TheoriaApophasis]

But we create the permanent magentic component/field by electron spin

Pascal

There is no such nonsense as electrons.


Tesla said it

Heaviside said it

Dollard said it.


"Mother nature is not a hooker on crack with a bag of bumping particles"- Myself

[Selfsimilarity]

Coudnt it be that the electron is a permanent existing purly dielectric structure resulting in permanent magnetic effects such as attraction, repulsion, acceleration that are in 90° phase to the dielectric field?
Couldnt the toroid and the hyperboloid be part of the same one thing? The polarized fractal dielectric "hypertoroboloid"?

Please Ken, dont think Im still stuck at the electron

[Markoul]

I'm joining the youtube ferrocell club

Any donations are welcome and F**K You!!...

...just kidding!

[VIDEO]https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=RP_PB1yP_90[/VIDEO]


EM
p.s. why shoot in 30fps if you can have 60fps?
Also almost all of my videos (about 600) are unlisted, I don't want them to spread out...

[Markoul]

Ferrocell Decipher Quiz!

In order to decipher why we see what we see in a ferrocell I am starting a series of quiz questions.

You are welcome to contribute with your explanations. The winner coming with the best explanation will win a one night stand with the Mother****er previously presented in this thread here.

Quiz Question 1:

Why a ring magnet under the ferrocell does not show a field inside (pole view) fig.1 ring magnet under the ferrocell?




But when a ring magnet is placed above the ferrocell the field inside the ring shows up? Why is that? Fig.2




Bonus!


I've put a ring magnet inside water!!...




EM