about the Ferrocell (ferrolens)

[Markoul]

Mike's Palazolla new 3D ferro Amazing Experiment

[VIDEO]https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=JY3j47nNrfc[/VIDEO]

I believe after this demonstration there is no one in doubt that the fields at the poles are totally separated and joined and controlled only at the dielectric plane aka Bloch region. Dipole magnetism is two monopoles joined together. There is no flux going directly from on pole to the other.

I could be wrong but empirical evidence so far suggests the above.

I wonder what we will see if you submerge a ring magnet?

[Ufopolitics]

[VIDEO]https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=JY3j47nNrfc[/VIDEO]

I believe after this demonstration there is no one in doubt that the fields at the poles are totally separated and joined and controlled only at the dielectric plane aka Bloch region. Dipole magnetism is two monopoles joined together. There is no flux going directly from on pole to the other.

I could be wrong but empirical evidence so far suggests the above.

I wonder what we will see if you submerge a ring magnet?

Hello my friend Markoul!

Been busy friend...NOW...THAT'S WHAT I MEANT BEFORE!!!
Making a preparation(2 drops ferrofluid by as Oz of Coconut Oil) like that...which allows to see field in 3D

Thanks for uploading it!

Edit: I would like to see what Bistander has to say now...since it is quite clear and very noticeable...the waist right at center of magnet...



Kind regards


Ufopolitics

B

[Markoul]

Hello my friend Markoul!

Been busy friend...NOW...THAT'S WHAT I MEANT BEFORE!!!
Making a preparation(2 drops ferrofluid by as Oz of Coconut Oil) like that...which allows to see field in 3D

Thanks for uploading it!

Edit: I would like to see what Bistander has to say now...since it is quite clear and very noticeable...the waist right at center of magnet...



Kind regards


Ufopolitics

B

It doesn't take any brain power to figure out that if you springle iron filings over that field it will bridge at the middle (waist)...

Therefore, as i said many times before the field shown by iron filings is a shortcircuit magnetic field falsly taken as the field of a magnet for the last 200 years!

There is no force lines (flux) from N-S poles... iron filings is just an interaction imprint and does not show the undistorted field of a magnet which is essentially two toroidal fields back to back.

EM

[bistander]

Just your imagination

Been busy friend...NOW...THAT'S WHAT I MEANT BEFORE!!!
Making a preparation(2 drops ferrofluid by as Oz of Coconut Oil) like that...which allows to see field in 3D

Thanks for uploading it!

Edit: I would like to see what Bistander has to say now...since it is quite clear and very noticeable...the waist right at center of magnet...

What? Are you kidding me Ufo? It looks like my car headlights in the fog. In other words, a combination of reflection from the shiny surface of the disc magnet and optical distortion from the glass container and two different media. Do exactly the same experiment with unmagnetized disc and you'd see the same light cones.

Regards,

bi

[Ufopolitics]

What? Are you kidding me Ufo? It looks like my car headlights in the fog. In other words, a combination of reflection from the shiny surface of the disc magnet and optical distortion from the glass container and two different media. Do exactly the same experiment with unmagnetized disc and you'd see the same light cones.

Regards,

bi

Hello Bistander,

I don't think it's a reflective fog on medium...look after min 3...and notice under just red light...how it shows rings and not cones.

@Markoul:

Could you ask Mike if he could repeat same test but wrapping whole magnet with matte tape or black cloth?

That simple to demonstrate it ain't reflective fog volume on the liquid...

Regards to both

Ufopolitics

[Markoul]

o exactly the same experiment with unmagnetized disc and you'd see the same light cones.

You would get the same field image even if the magnet was inside a black wooden or plastic box... has nothing to do with light interference, it is just magnetism shown by the ferroliquid.

EM

[Markoul]

Could you ask Mike if he could repeat same test but wrapping whole magnet with matte tape or black cloth?

That simple to demonstrate it ain't reflective fog volume on the liquid...

Ufopolitics,

Mike is watching closely this thread I ensure you although he does not respond directly he answers through his latest videos and experiments. Ken does the same thing responding to the arguments set on these thread here. No need to ask them anything.

Just watch their videos.


Best Regards,

EM

[Markoul]

New prototype Ferrocell by Timm

High sensitivity high contrast and resolution new prototype Ferrocell made by its inventor Timm aka dyetalon.

The vivid images this new cell shows are Amazing!

[VIDEO]https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=B4PWPORnlso&lc=z233uzmrnkvttp4siacdp43bg50 ma52gmqic0s3vdulw03c010c.1530167344827597[/VIDEO]

The above thumbnail of the video is a confirmation that inside the bulk body of a magnet there is no magnetic flux flowing (black outer ring). Body of a magnet holds only that what we call, the dielectric field of the magnet thus the poles entrance points (black inner circle) and Bloch domain wall (midlle of magnet) with the rest of the bulk mass material of the magnet.

EM

[Ufopolitics]

Ufopolitics,

Mike is watching closely this thread I ensure you although he does not respond directly he answers through his latest videos and experiments. Ken does the same thing responding to the arguments set on these thread here. No need to ask them anything.

Just watch their videos.


Best Regards,

EM

Thanks Markoul,

I already contacted Mike Palazzola about this on his You Tube Chanel, right on the video comments, in the open...my post in YT is quoted below:

Hello Mike, Excellent video!!...but even better than video is your idea to see field in 3D... thanks to the whole set up.

Now, please, we need your help at Energetic Forum>About the Ferrocell>by Timm Vanderelli. Some ppl there (skeptics) are saying that all we are seeing there is the chrome reflection on the viscous medium you have created ...just like headlamps from a car on a foggy night... So, could you please make another video where you first show the magnet (outside container) wrapped by black, matte, electric tape, or any other non reflective material...to demonstrate that it is just pure magnetic field effect and no reflections?...please? Really appreciate all your time on this research and experiments...they are VERY HELPFUL, my friend!!

Kind regards

Ufopolitics

and this is what Mike wrote about my suggestion:

Yea but I need to make a new batch of TFL. The batch in the video was cloudy and silvery, the magnet was reflecting light but there was also a field in there. just got a gallon of grape seed oil and will make a fresh batch tomorrow. Will try an electromagnet. no reflections there.

So, obviously Mike realizes there is also light reflection on the medium (TFL)

But here is my quick and brief analysis on the video...

First, let's look at the original frame I screen printed from video for the analysis (sorry about the water mark from software):



Now here is the Analysis Graphics on the same frame...



And so, almost anyone with the slightest knowledge about Light and Reflections...plus projected shadows, penumbra zones, etc,etc from that same light source would realize what am writing about below...

We all know the light (GREEN LASER BEAM) is coming from the right of the screen...and so it illuminates on this screen shot...just one side of magnet, which is on the right side as well...

So, we have the light source on right sending its light direction towards the magnet...like I show with green arrow...then, yes, we do have a reflected light on the right side face of magnet, reason why that cone of light is much brighter than the cone in the opposite end...as all this reflection does, is to generate a much better lighted contour illumination of the cone, which we could call a "Higher Definition".

If you all notice, the cone on the dark side doesn't have defined (brighter) contour lines (No HD), instead... it is blurred/Blended more smoothly into the medium.

Notice that the Penumbra "cylindrical" projection ALWAYS is generated OPPOSITE to the Light Source Direction.

And finally, the projected circular shadow (in light blue) shows at the very end of the penumbra projection zone.

Concluding, that Mike is right...there are both, Field 3D plus Reflection from the shiny surface of magnet into the medium...HOWEVER, please realize that the other side of the magnet is NOT ILLUMINATED from LASER BEAM, hence it does not Emit absolutely NO REFLECTION OF LIGHT!!!


Regards to all



Ufopolitics

[Markoul]

Nice analysis but we already know the hourglass shape of the dielectric magnetic field thus the inner surfaces of the two toroidal back to back 3D geometry magnetic field.

Mike's ferroliquid shows only the inner part of the ejected magnetic field generated on the domain wall through the poles but it does not show the curling of the field lines returning through the poles forming the two torus back to back effect.

I think the explanation the large mass of ferroliquid not showing the curling of the flux is liquid pressure inside the container and buoyancy not allowing the ferrofluid to move freely and follow the magnetic flux of the field.

Ferroliquid aquarium may definitely produce a 3D projection of the field but it can not show the entire field since it lacks the sensitivity in doing so.

EM

[Markoul]

The holographic fractal nature of magnetism

[VIDEO]https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=hfkBQxMn5rg[/VIDEO]


Another excellent video from Brian showing the fractal nature of magnetism.

These block magnets...do they have they poles like this?:

https://www.supermagnete.de/eng/bloc...d_Q-40-10-10-N

Interesting you get the fractal field also inside the hole area of the array.

[bistander]

Poles?

[VIDEO]https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=hfkBQxMn5rg[/VIDEO]

These block magnets...do they have they poles like this?:

https://www.supermagnete.de/eng/bloc...d_Q-40-10-10-N
...

Can't you tell from the ferrocell pattern?

[Ufopolitics]

Nope...not like that.

[VIDEO]https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=hfkBQxMn5rg[/VIDEO]


Another excellent video from Brian showing the fractal nature of magnetism.

These block magnets...do they have they poles like this?:

https://www.supermagnete.de/eng/bloc...d_Q-40-10-10-N

Interesting you get the fractal field also inside the hole area of the array.

Hello Markoul,

Nope, they can not have poles like you have posted on link above...but like this below:



And no matter if the Array gets turned around...same pattern:



Green Cross are all four MAIN Dielectric Planes (one for each magnet) intersected at very center of array...However, there are other smaller dielectric planes at each pole bounds...identify them yourselves...

The Four Magenta Circles are the attraction areas for both OPPOSITE POLES attracting bonds.

Ferrocells can not tell which side is North or South...since they show ALL angled inclined circular curls of force for both poles and not ONLY the predominant spin in the sequence like B&W CRT SCANLINE does.

Therefore, Poles letters are denoted in red-blue just to highlight they are opposites...but like I said before...is just for reference and it could be the other way around (reversing color polarities).


Regards


Ufopolitics

[Markoul]

Ferrocell CONTEST!!

Ufopolitcs,

Thank you for your helpful and enlightening analysis and presentation.

Ferrocells can not tell which side is North or South...since they show ALL angled inclined circular curls of force for both poles and not ONLY the predominant spin in the sequence like B&W CRT SCANLINE does.

That is partially true, here is a photo of the fields on both poles of a cube magnet under the ferrocell (side by side comparisson):



No difference.

However, I announce an official Ferrocell contest to anyone to be able to show us a definitive difference on the North and South pole views using a ferrocell.

*And by that I don't mean Ken's observation of South pole black hole being shown more clear and crisp than the North pole black hole or red and blue shift.*

I mean by comparing the flux lines orientation and skew angles directions (i.e. lean left or right) on the two poles.

Tip: Decouple and prevent both pole fields to show up simultaneously on the ferrocell when observing the pole of a magnet placed under the ferrocell due the ferrocell's magnetic transparency.

If the skew angles direction are be found to be the same on both poles, that would be a surprise although I can still offer an explanation for the different magnetic behavior in the different poles of a magnet explaining repulsion and attraction mechanism.

EM

[BrianKerr]

Yes. There is also dielectric planes between all opposite poles. On the magnet and between the separate magnets at the ends.