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    Ok !

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    H.R. 1207, the Federal Reserve Transparency Act of 2009 (google for H.R. 1027)
    On May 05, 2009 there were 124 co-sponsors and as of May 25, 2009 there are 179 co-sponsors.
    For reference the total number of voting representatives is 435.

    The bills author (guess who):
    "Audit the Fed, Then End It!"
    "The Federal Reserve can enter into agreements with foreign central banks and foreign governments, and the GAO is prohibited from auditing or even seeing these agreements. Why should a government – established agency, whose police force has federal law enforcement powers, and whose notes have legal tender status in this country, be allowed to enter into agreements with foreign powers and foreign banking institutions with no oversight?"
    The bill calls for the comptroller general of the United States to audit the private Federal Reserve and report to Congress before the end of 2010.

    The question becomes: Can the world wait until the "end of 2010"?

    Randy
    Remember to be kind to your mind ...
    Tesla quoting Buddha: "Ignorance is the greatest evil in the world."

  • #2
    This is interesting Randy.

    Have you read that Federal Reserve notes may be replaced with Treasury notes? According to information I have been reading, the banks already have the Treasury notes in posession and are just waiting for the word to make the switch. At which point, the notes will be backed by precious metals (silver, gold, platinum).
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    • #3
      New Ball Game

      Originally posted by Pamela Vicik-Smith View Post
      This is interesting Randy.

      Have you read that Federal Reserve notes may be replaced with Treasury notes? According to information I have been reading, the banks already have the Treasury notes in posession and are just waiting for the word to make the switch. At which point, the notes will be backed by precious metals (silver, gold, platinum).
      Yes, I see that since you brought it up.
      In this 25 min speech in Houston, Ron Pual mentions those Treasury Notes saying
      they are just like Federal Reserve Notes .. in that they are only just paper
      and really cheap to MAKE.
      (Ron does not say anything about them being backed by anything, more thin air?)

      Story posted February 21, 2009
      Video End the Fed speech in Houston.

      I've heard that the Federal Reserve has been secretly purchasing just about
      every corporation in the USA. Those assets should be given back to the
      people, shares with dividends .. I think could handle that burden ..
      I don't care who claims to own the corporations now. The money was stolen
      and the assets purchased are ours.

      WND recently reported that under the fiscal policies of the Fed,
      the total obligations of the United States have reached $65.5 trillion
      – exceeding the gross domestic product of the world.


      This $65.5 trillion was used to purchase the USA corporations and it belongs to us the people.


      Just Smoke and Mirrors. If the lips are moving it's a lie .. if lips are not moving it's still a lie.

      How do we handle this $65.5 trillion? You don't. It's called bankruptcy.
      End of central bank ball-game.
      The world creates a different game.
      New Rules,.
      New game.
      Clean slate.
      No score.
      Play ball.


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      HR 1207 Co-Sponsors (as of 5/22/2009)

      Rep Abercrombie, Neil [HI-1] - 2/26/2009
      Rep Aderholt, Robert B. [AL-4] - 5/6/2009
      Rep Adler, John H. [NJ-3] - 5/6/2009
      Rep Akin, W. Todd [MO-2] - 3/19/2009
      Rep Alexander, Rodney [LA-5] - 3/10/2009
      Rep Altmire, Jason [PA-4] - 5/20/2009
      Rep Austria, Steve [OH-7] - 5/6/2009
      Rep Bachmann, Michele [MN-6] - 2/26/2009
      Rep Bachus, Spencer [AL-6] - 4/29/2009
      Rep Baldwin, Tammy [WI-2] - 4/21/2009
      Rep Barrett, J. Gresham [SC-3] - 4/28/2009
      Rep Barrow, John [GA-12] - 5/12/2009
      Rep Bartlett, Roscoe G. [MD-6] - 2/26/2009
      Rep Barton, Joe [TX-6] - 5/4/2009
      Rep Berkley, Shelley [NV-1] - 5/21/2009
      Rep Berry, Marion [AR-1] - 5/20/2009
      Rep Biggert, Judy [IL-13] - 4/28/2009
      Rep Bilbray, Brian P. [CA-50] - 4/21/2009
      Rep Bilirakis, Gus M. [FL-9] - 5/4/2009
      Rep Bishop, Rob [UT-1] - 4/21/2009
      Rep Blackburn, Marsha [TN-7] - 3/16/2009
      Rep Blunt, Roy [MO-7] - 3/24/2009
      Rep Bono Mack, Mary [CA-45] - 4/29/2009
      Rep Boozman, John [AR-3] - 5/7/2009
      Rep Boustany, Charles W., Jr. [LA-7] - 5/13/2009
      Rep Brady, Kevin [TX-8] - 4/22/2009
      Rep Broun, Paul C. [GA-10] - 2/26/2009
      Rep Brown, Henry E., Jr. [SC-1] - 4/28/2009
      Rep Brown-Waite, Ginny [FL-5] - 5/20/2009
      Rep Buchanan, Vern [FL-13] - 3/17/2009
      Rep Burgess, Michael C. [TX-26] - 3/19/2009
      Rep Burton, Dan [IN-5] - 2/26/2009
      Rep Buyer, Steve [IN-4] - 4/30/2009
      Rep Calvert, Ken [CA-44] - 4/29/2009
      Rep Campbell, John [CA-48] - 5/4/2009
      Rep Capito, Shelley Moore [WV-2] - 4/1/2009
      Rep Carter, John R. [TX-31] - 3/31/2009
      Rep Cassidy, Bill [LA-6] - 5/4/2009
      Rep Castle, Michael N. [DE] - 3/17/2009
      Rep Chaffetz, Jason [UT-3] - 3/6/2009
      Rep Cole, Tom [OK-4] - 4/21/2009
      Rep Conaway, K. Michael [TX-11] - 5/7/2009
      Rep Crenshaw, Ander [FL-4] - 5/4/2009
      Rep Culberson, John Abney [TX-7] - 3/26/2009
      Rep Davis, Geoff [KY-4] - 5/6/2009
      Rep Deal, Nathan [GA-9] - 3/23/2009
      Rep DeFazio, Peter A. [OR-4] - 3/9/2009
      Rep Dent, Charles W. [PA-15] - 5/6/2009
      Rep Doggett, Lloyd [TX-25] - 4/21/2009
      Rep Duncan, John J., Jr. [TN-2] - 3/6/2009
      Rep Ehlers, Vernon J. [MI-3] - 4/21/2009
      Rep Fallin, Mary [OK-5] - 4/2/2009
      Rep Flake, Jeff [AZ-6] - 5/11/2009
      Rep Fleming, John [LA-4] - 3/18/2009
      Rep Forbes, J. Randy [VA-4] - 5/20/2009
      Rep Fortenberry, Jeff [NE-1] - 5/12/2009
      Rep Foxx, Virginia [NC-5] - 3/10/2009
      Rep Franks, Trent [AZ-2] - 3/23/2009
      Rep Garrett, Scott [NJ-5] - 3/5/2009
      Rep Gerlach, Jim [PA-6] - 5/11/2009
      Rep Gingrey, Phil [GA-11] - 3/30/2009
      Rep Gohmert, Louie [TX-1] - 4/23/2009
      Rep Goodlatte, Bob [VA-6] - 4/28/2009
      Rep Granger, Kay [TX-12] - 4/28/2009
      Rep Graves, Sam [MO-6] - 4/22/2009
      Rep Grayson, Alan [FL-8] - 3/11/2009
      Rep Guthrie, Brett [KY-2] - 5/7/2009
      Rep Hall, Ralph M. [TX-4] - 4/29/2009
      Rep Hare, Phil [IL-17] - 5/11/2009
      Rep Harper, Gregg [MS-3] - 5/11/2009
      Rep Hastings, Doc [WA-4] - 5/11/2009
      Rep Heller, Dean [NV-2] - 3/6/2009
      Rep Hensarling, Jeb [TX-5] - 5/4/2009
      Rep Herger, Wally [CA-2] - 4/21/2009
      Rep Herseth Sandlin, Stephanie [SD] - 5/6/2009
      Rep Hoekstra, Peter [MI-2] - 4/28/2009
      Rep Hunter, Duncan D. [CA-52] - 5/13/2009
      Rep Inglis, Bob [SC-4] - 4/23/2009
      Rep Inslee, Jay [WA-1] - 5/12/2009
      Rep Jenkins, Lynn [KS-2] - 4/23/2009
      Rep Johnson, Sam [TX-3] - 4/22/2009
      Rep Johnson, Timothy V. [IL-15] - 4/23/2009
      Rep Jones, Walter B., Jr. [NC-3] - 2/26/2009
      Rep Kagen, Steve [WI-8] - 2/26/2009
      Rep Kaptur, Marcy [OH-9] - 4/23/2009
      Rep Kingston, Jack [GA-1] - 3/6/2009
      Rep Kline, John [MN-2] - 4/29/2009
      Rep Lamborn, Doug [CO-5] - 4/21/2009
      Rep Lance, Leonard [NJ-7] - 5/11/2009
      Rep Latham, Tom [IA-4] - 4/21/2009
      Rep LaTourette, Steven C. [OH-14] - 4/28/2009
      Rep Latta, Robert E. [OH-5] - 5/20/2009
      Rep Linder, John [GA-7] - 5/6/2009
      Rep LoBiondo, Frank A. [NJ-2] - 5/4/2009
      Rep Lucas, Frank D. [OK-3] - 4/21/2009
      Rep Luetkemeyer, Blaine [MO-9] - 4/21/2009
      Rep Lummis, Cynthia M. [WY] - 3/19/2009
      Rep Lungren, Daniel E. [CA-3] - 5/7/2009
      Rep Mack, Connie [FL-14] - 5/12/2009
      Rep Maffei, Daniel B. [NY-25] - 5/12/2009
      Rep Manzullo, Donald A. [IL-16] - 4/21/2009
      Rep Marchant, Kenny [TX-24] - 3/11/2009
      Rep Massa, Eric J. J. [NY-29] - 4/22/2009
      Rep McCarthy, Kevin [CA-22] - 5/4/2009
      Rep McCaul, Michael T. [TX-10] - 4/21/2009
      Rep McClintock, Tom [CA-4] - 3/6/2009
      Rep McCotter, Thaddeus G. [MI-11] - 3/19/2009
      Rep McDermott, Jim [WA-7] - 4/29/2009
      Rep McHenry, Patrick T. [NC-10] - 4/30/2009
      Rep McHugh, John M. [NY-23] - 5/4/2009
      Rep McMorris Rodgers, Cathy [WA-5] - 5/4/2009
      Rep Mica, John L. [FL-7] - 5/12/2009
      Rep Michaud, Michael H. [ME-2] - 5/7/2009
      Rep Miller, Candice S. [MI-10] - 4/28/2009
      Rep Miller, Jeff [FL-1] - 3/24/2009
      Rep Minnick, Walter [ID-1] - 5/13/2009
      Rep Moran, Jerry [KS-1] - 5/4/2009
      Rep Murphy, Tim [PA-18] - 4/29/2009
      Rep Myrick, Sue Wilkins [NC-9] - 4/28/2009
      Rep Neugebauer, Randy [TX-19] - 4/30/2009
      Rep Olson, Pete [TX-22] - 4/21/2009
      Rep Ortiz, Solomon P. [TX-27] - 5/14/2009
      Rep Pastor, Ed [AZ-4] - 5/20/2009
      Rep Paulsen, Erik [MN-3] - 3/30/2009
      Rep Pence, Mike [IN-6] - 4/21/2009
      Rep Perriello, Thomas S.P. [VA-5] - 5/13/2009
      Rep Peterson, Collin C. [MN-7] - 3/19/2009
      Rep Petri, Thomas E. [WI-6] - 3/10/2009
      Rep Pitts, Joseph R. [PA-16] - 4/28/2009
      Rep Platts, Todd Russell [PA-19] - 3/19/2009
      Rep Poe, Ted [TX-2] - 2/26/2009
      Rep Posey, Bill [FL-15] - 2/26/2009
      Rep Price, Tom [GA-6] - 3/10/2009
      Rep Putnam, Adam H. [FL-12] - 4/28/2009
      Rep Radanovich, George [CA-19] - 5/6/2009
      Rep Rehberg, Denny [MT] - 2/26/2009
      Rep Reichert, David G. [WA-8] - 5/20/2009
      Rep Roe, David P. [TN-1] - 4/21/2009
      Rep Rogers, Mike D. [AL-3] - 5/13/2009
      Rep Rogers, Mike J. [MI-8] - 5/20/2009
      Rep Rohrabacher, Dana [CA-46] - 3/6/2009
      Rep Rooney, Thomas J. [FL-16] - 4/22/2009
      Rep Ros-Lehtinen, Ileana [FL-18] - 4/28/2009
      Rep Ross, Mike [AR-4] - 5/21/2009
      Rep Royce, Edward R. [CA-40] - 5/12/2009
      Rep Ryan, Paul [WI-1] - 5/14/2009
      Rep Scalise, Steve [LA-1] - 5/20/2009
      Rep Schakowsky, Janice D. [IL-9] - 5/6/2009
      Rep Schauer, Mark H. [MI-7] - 5/20/2009
      Rep Schock, Aaron [IL-18] - 5/6/2009
      Rep Sensenbrenner, F. James, Jr. [WI-5] - 5/7/2009
      Rep Sessions, Pete [TX-32] - 3/23/2009
      Rep Shadegg, John B. [AZ-3] - 5/7/2009
      Rep Shimkus, John [IL-19] - 4/22/2009
      Rep Shuster, Bill [PA-9] - 5/7/2009
      Rep Simpson, Michael K. [ID-2] - 4/28/2009
      Rep Smith, Adam [WA-9] - 4/22/2009
      Rep Smith, Adrian [NE-3] - 4/28/2009
      Rep Smith, Lamar [TX-21] - 4/2/2009
      Rep Stark, Fortney Pete [CA-13] - 3/26/2009
      Rep Stearns, Cliff [FL-6] - 3/6/2009
      Rep Taylor, Gene [MS-4] - 3/6/2009
      Rep Terry, Lee [NE-2] - 3/30/2009
      Rep Thompson, Glenn [PA-5] - 4/22/2009
      Rep Thornberry, Mac [TX-13] - 5/21/2009
      Rep Tiahrt, Todd [KS-4] - 4/28/2009
      Rep Tiberi, Patrick J. [OH-12] - 4/28/2009
      Rep Turner, Michael R. [OH-3] - 5/13/2009
      Rep Upton, Fred [MI-6] - 4/29/2009
      Rep Walden, Greg [OR-2] - 5/4/2009
      Rep Walz, Timothy J. [MN-1] - 5/7/2009
      Rep Wamp, Zach [TN-3] - 3/16/2009
      Rep Welch, Peter [VT] - 5/21/2009
      Rep Westmoreland, Lynn A. [GA-3] - 4/2/2009
      Rep Whitfield, Ed [KY-1] - 5/14/2009
      Rep Wilson, Joe [SC-2] - 4/29/2009
      Rep Wittman, Robert J. [VA-1] - 4/1/2009
      Rep Woolsey, Lynn C. [CA-6] - 2/26/2009
      Rep Young, Don [AK] - 3/6/2009

      Note: HR 1207’s identical companion bill in the Senate is known as S604, the Federal Reserve Sunshine Act, sponsored by Sen. Bernie Sanders. If you contact your Senators, ask them to support S604. At this time S604 doesn’t have any co-sponsors.
      Last edited by Vortex; 05-26-2009, 01:49 PM. Reason: Added Co-Sponsors
      Remember to be kind to your mind ...
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      • #4
        Das Capital

        Sounds like capitalism at its finest!
        "But ye shall receive power..."
        Acts 1:8

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        • #5
          Cosponsors are at 190 now. .. this should be increasing faster than it is.
          That's around 43% of the voting representatives ..

          Has there ever been a bill with this many cosponsors before?

          The bill has been: "Referred to Committee" see View Committee Assignments
          Remember to be kind to your mind ...
          Tesla quoting Buddha: "Ignorance is the greatest evil in the world."

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          • #6
            Update

            Originally posted by Vortex View Post
            Cosponsors are at 190 now. .. this should be increasing faster than it is.
            That's around 43% of the voting representatives ..

            Has there ever been a bill with this many cosponsors before?

            The bill has been: "Referred to Committee" see View Committee Assignments
            Status: 241 of 435 representatives have become cosponsors of this bill.
            That's 55.4% of the representatives ...

            The link below explains how this bill could never go to the floor for a vote
            if it never gets out of the "Committee" that is reviewing it.
            The link also lists the names of the 71 people in that
            House Committee on Financial Services
            32 of the 71 members in the Committee have not become a cosponsor.
            More than 1/2 of the members a cosponsor. I don't know what the ratio
            of yeas/nays has to be to get it out of Committee.

            audit-the-federal-reserve-hr-1207


            It's moving, just not fast enough ..
            Last edited by Vortex; 06-26-2009, 05:17 AM. Reason: forgot link
            Remember to be kind to your mind ...
            Tesla quoting Buddha: "Ignorance is the greatest evil in the world."

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            • #7
              This is my take on what is going on. The Federal Reserve Bank has got to go.

              It is my belief that major portion of our money problems can be laid in the lap of the FRB. Although this is not to say that our politicians of both parties through some of their “enlightened” legislation haven’t contributed greatly to the problem.

              The reason the FRB was created, we were told, was to control inflation and the ups and downs of the business cycles. It has obviously failed miserably on both accounts. Since its creation the dollar has lost over 90% of its purchasing power. I don’t think anyone would call this controlling inflation.

              So what is going on? Why do we even need the FED? Why do we have it in the first place? The constitution gives the government the sole right to “coin” our money. So why did our illustrious congress turn this right over to a private bank. (Actually a group of banks, some of which are not even American owned.) The reason is actually quite simple, the bankers wanted take control of the country and they did this by taking control of our money. All that they needed to do was buy up enough politicians who it turn passed the FRB act. This put them in control of our money and not congress. This meant that whenever the government needed money it would now barrow it from these banks, and of course pay interest on the loaned money, rather then print it them self interest free. Such a deal, with politicians like this who needs enemies?

              But that was not enough, they then lobbied for and got the gold standard removed as his was too restraining on their ability to control our money. Which is precisely why one would want something like the gold standard. So now that the government was borrowing money rather then printing it, it now needed a source of income to pay back the loans plus the interest charged. Thus we have the real reason that the income tax was instated.

              Note when you pay our taxes you make the check out the FRB not the federal government. However many people naturally assume that because the FRB has “federal” in its name it must be part of the government. That did not happen by accident. Again the reality here is that the FRB is no more part of the federal government then Federal Express is. They are both private companies.

              But now with the FRB in control of our currency they could start playing games with credit. People were encouraged to buy on credit, banks were allowed to loan more money then they had in reserve. Of course you as a barrower still had to but up real collateral to get a non-money backed loan.

              Isn’t this is a great system? Everyone is making money hand over fist, and the more loans that are made the better. The politicians were then lobbied to change the laws and make it even easier for anyone to get a loan, even if they were not qualified to pay it back. Then as planed when these high risk loans started to fail and thus this whole house of cards started to collapse little banks are bought by big banks which turn are bought out by bigger banks with most of it being done for pennies on the dollar. While much of these assets were now worthless still along with them came the very real collateral that people had put up. This allowed the transfer/confiscation of large amounts of real wealth and property into a handful of very influential individuals.

              This is what was done during the great depression as a means to transfer wealth from the great unwashed peons of the country to the hands of few elite who were obviously much better able to appreciate its value.

              When Bemanke first took office he confirmed that the FRB was the cause of the great depression. But that he promised not to let it happen again. Yah right. It can now be argued that that the FED is diligently working to create a second one. I guess that the real “powers that be” have decided that it is again time to fleece the sheeple.

              So is it not time that we demand that our government take back control of our money supply from the FED? The FED is not the answer to our problems it is the problem. If they have not already tell your representative to support HR1207 and audit the FED.

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              • #8
                YouTube - Bernanke warns that meddling with Fed's monetary policy cause harm economy

                It does not sounds like at all, that the FED is happy about, to cooperate with someone. More like, Keep your Hands off from my Matters.
                Theorizer are like High Voltage. A lot hot Air with no Power behind but they are the dead of applied Work and Ideas.

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                • #9
                  H.r. 645

                  Originally posted by Joit View Post
                  YouTube - Bernanke warns that meddling with Fed's monetary policy cause harm economy

                  It does not sounds like at all, that the FED is happy about, to cooperate with someone. More like, Keep your Hands off from my Matters.
                  Research "H.R. 645:National Emergency Centers Establishment Act"
                  H.R. 645: National Emergency Centers Establishment Act (GovTrack.us)
                  it is still in the hands of
                  H.R. 645 - Committee Assignments: National Emergency Centers Establishment Act (GovTrack.us)
                  Al

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                  • #10
                    Time And Time Again History Repeats Itself

                    Originally posted by Pamela Vicik-Smith View Post
                    This is interesting Randy.

                    Have you read that Federal Reserve notes may be replaced with Treasury notes? According to information I have been reading, the banks already have the Treasury notes in posession and are just waiting for the word to make the switch. At which point, the notes will be backed by precious metals (silver, gold, platinum).
                    "Time and time again we can draw parallels from what is happening today, to historical examples of the past. "
                    see:
                    History Repeats Itself
                    Al

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                    • #11
                      This is my take on what is going on. The Federal Reserve Bank has got to go.

                      It is my belief that major portion of our money problems can be laid in the lap of the FRB. Although this is not to say that our politicians of both parties through some of their “enlightened” legislation haven’t contributed greatly to the problem.

                      The reason the FRB was created, we were told, was to control inflation and the ups and downs of the business cycles. It has obviously failed miserably on both accounts. Since its creation the dollar has lost over 90% of its purchasing power. I don’t think anyone would call this controlling inflation.

                      So what is going on? Why do we even need the FED? Why do we have it in the first place? The constitution gives the government the sole right to “coin” our money. So why did our illustrious congress turn this right over to a private bank. (Actually a group of banks, some of which are not even American owned.) The reason is actually quite simple, the bankers wanted take control of the country and they did this by taking control of our money. All that they needed to do was buy up enough politicians who it turn passed the FRB act. This put them in control of our money and not congress. This meant that whenever the government needed money it would now barrow it from these banks, and of course pay interest on the loaned money, rather then print it them self interest free. Such a deal, with politicians like this who needs enemies?

                      But that was not enough, they then lobbied for and got the gold standard removed as his was too restraining on their ability to control our money. Which is precisely why one would want something like the gold standard. So now that the government was borrowing money rather then printing it, it now needed a source of income to pay back the loans plus the interest charged. Thus we have the real reason that the income tax was instated.

                      Note when you pay our taxes you make the check out the FRB not the federal government. However many people naturally assume that because the FRB has “federal” in its name it must be part of the government. That did not happen by accident. Again the reality here is that the FRB is no more part of the federal government then Federal Express is. They are both private companies.

                      But now with the FRB in control of our currency they could start playing games with credit. People were encouraged to buy on credit, banks were allowed to loan more money then they had in reserve. Of course you as a barrower still had to but up real collateral to get a non-money backed loan.

                      Isn’t this is a great system? Everyone is making money hand over fist, and the more loans that are made the better. The politicians were then lobbied to change the laws and make it even easier for anyone to get a loan, even if they were not qualified to pay it back. Then as planed when these high risk loans started to fail and thus this whole house of cards started to collapse little banks are bought by big banks which turn are bought out by bigger banks with most of it being done for pennies on the dollar. While much of these assets were now worthless still along with them came the very real collateral that people had put up. This allowed the transfer/confiscation of large amounts of real wealth and property into a handful of very influential individuals.

                      This is what was done during the great depression as a means to transfer wealth from the great unwashed peons of the country to the hands of few elite who were obviously much better able to appreciate its value.

                      When Bemanke first took office he confirmed that the FRB was the cause of the great depression. But that he promised not to let it happen again. Yah right. It can now be argued that that the FED is diligently working to create a second one. I guess that the real “powers that be” have decided that it is again time to fleece the sheeple.

                      So is it not time that we demand that our government take back control of our money supply from the FED? The FED is not the answer to our problems it is the problem. If they have not already tell your representative to support HR1207 and audit the FED.
                      Thanks for breaking that out Mad Scientist

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                      • #12
                        Time and time again history repeats itself

                        I believe that banking institutions are more dangerous to our liberties than standing armies. If the American people ever allow private banks to control the issue of their currency, first by inflation, then by deflation, the banks and corporations that will grow up around the banks will deprive the people of all property until their children wake-up homeless on the continent their fathers conquered. Thomas Jefferson in 1802
                        Banking Institutions are More Dangerous to our Liberties than Standing Armies | California Tea Party
                        Al

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                        • #13
                          update

                          Audit the Fed as of 7/23/2009

                          HR 1207 has 276 Co-Sponsors in the House
                          S 604 has 17 Co-Sponsors in the Senate

                          Audit the Federal Reserve: HR 1207 and S 604 | Ron Paul .com
                          Remember to be kind to your mind ...
                          Tesla quoting Buddha: "Ignorance is the greatest evil in the world."

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                          • #14
                            Audit and Abolish FED is good start, but not enough.

                            Some good posts on this subject Randy, Mad Scientist, and others.
                            It's good to see this legislation being introduced. Still, the current proposals don't go far enough. The FED should not only be abolished, but should also be declared illegal and unconstitutional to begin with. And once so declared, all accrued interest obligations should be completely wiped out and the improperly obtained wealth of the Federal Reserve Banks, and associated individuals who have profited from these ill gotten gains, should be confiscated and used to pay down our national debt. If we simply end the FED, the robber barons get to walk away with their usurped wealth intact. These steps are justified, and if not taken will not be enough to save our nation from financial disaster. One look at our National Debt clock should be enough to startle anyone, but looking again tomorrow or a week from now at the increase in debt will be downright scary.

                            U.S. National Debt Clock

                            Borrowing massive amounts of money from the FED for government "economic stimulus" programs only compounds the debt problem, which has long since become unmanageable. It is akin to the foolishness of someone maxing out their credit card and continually paying only the "minimum payment" amount while the balance owed increases every month, and then looking for other credit lines to use in making the "minimum payments" while spending even more borrowed money that will be impossible to ever pay back.

                            Rick
                            "Seek wisdom by keeping an open mind to alternative realities, questioning authority, and searching for truth. Only then, when you see or hear something that has 'the ring of truth' to it, will it be as if a veil has been lifted, and suddenly you will begin to hear and see far more clearly than ever before." - Rickoff

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                            • #15
                              Originally posted by rickoff View Post
                              Some good posts on this subject Randy, Mad Scientist, and others.
                              It's good to see this legislation being introduced. Still, the current proposals don't go far enough. The FED should not only be abolished, but should also be declared illegal and unconstitutional to begin with. And once so declared, all accrued interest obligations should be completely wiped out and the improperly obtained wealth of the Federal Reserve Banks, and associated individuals who have profited from these ill gotten gains, should be confiscated and used to pay down our national debt. If we simply end the FED, the robber barons get to walk away with their usurped wealth intact. These steps are justified, and if not taken will not be enough to save our nation from financial disaster. One look at our National Debt clock should be enough to startle anyone, but looking again tomorrow or a week from now at the increase in debt will be downright scary.

                              U.S. National Debt Clock

                              Borrowing massive amounts of money from the FED for government "economic stimulus" programs only compounds the debt problem, which has long since become unmanageable. It is akin to the foolishness of someone maxing out their credit card and continually paying only the "minimum payment" amount while the balance owed increases every month, and then looking for other credit lines to use in making the "minimum payments" while spending even more borrowed money that will be impossible to ever pay back.

                              Rick
                              Following up with your economic slant and Ron Paul, I put forward
                              an interview with Ron Paul done Aug/1988 !!! and it is amazing
                              the contain spoken about.
                              I'm constantly asking myself how I could be so ignorant for so
                              long about everything.

                              ATS Video: Ron Paul - The American Power Elite: (1) Aug,1988
                              Did you know Ron Paul was the Libertarian Candidate for President in 1988?
                              Remember to be kind to your mind ...
                              Tesla quoting Buddha: "Ignorance is the greatest evil in the world."

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