Something New on 9/11

[Sasha2012]

Conversion..that is key..

The public bought this right out of the gate. They do not want to admit they could be wrong, the gov. could be corrupt, the news outlets incompetent and most of all that this atrocity could be done by our own military. I went to give blood , talked to the nurse she was snowed bad. Before I left I asked her about building 7. One week later I needed more blood work, she talked my ear off. She took a look at the video and reports. She realized the truth and was furious. We need to convert people, we do it enough...and criminal charges will be filed. We can make it happen. People need to do their own thinking again.

These are dangerous times..

Thank you..the info was excellent.

[mbrownn]

Congratulations, you woke someone up

[Sparky McBiff]

The public bought this right out of the gate. They do not want to admit they could be wrong, the gov. could be corrupt, the news outlets incompetent and most of all that this atrocity could be done by our own military. I went to give blood , talked to the nurse she was snowed bad. Before I left I asked her about building 7. One week later I needed more blood work, she talked my ear off. She took a look at the video and reports. She realized the truth and was furious. We need to convert people, we do it enough...and criminal charges will be filed. We can make it happen. People need to do their own thinking again.

These are dangerous times..

Thank you..the info was excellent.

Good for you.
I too have woken up very many people by actually giving them CD copies of documentaries containing 911 suppressed information. Many people that used to ridicule me are now awake as to what is occurring in the country, and the world.
Even now on Facebook I continue to post information on 911 that many people are not aware of, and those that choose to still ridicule it, and thus the reality that surrounds them, deserve what is coming.
Until people understand and accept what occurred on 911 they will always be slaves.

[rickoff]

In posts #16 and 17 of this thread I explained why the "official" story of a plane hitting the Pentagon is totally absurd and false. Much of the most compelling information which exposed this actually came from Pentagon employees, including the two Pentagon security officers who were at the Citgo gas station at the time of the north side flyover, and the operator of the Pentagon heliport tower, which was located directly adjacent to the "crash" site. When these eyewitnesses were interviewed by the Citizen Investigation Team (CIT), they did not realize that their eyewitness accounts blew away the "official" story of the Pentagon "attack." Each of these witnesses had believed that a plane had hit the Pentagon, but it was not because they saw the plane collide. Rather, it was because they saw a plane headed towards the Pentagon, heard an explosion, saw a smoke plume, and believed that the "official" explanation and news reports which followed were truthful and accurate. When they were later made to realize that their eyewitness accounts actually disproved the "official" story, they had nothing further to say, but still stuck to the stories they had told to CIT as being the facts. Other Pentagon employees and visitors, who were knowledgeable regarding explosives, stated that they noticed the telltale odor of the explosive Cordite directly after the explosion, and one Pentagon employee who was working in an office adjacent to the "crash" area has come forward to say that she escaped from the building by walking through the breach hole, and that she never smelled jet fuel or saw any debris evidence of a plane having caused the breach. A video is available of this employee telling her story, and her testimonial is very compelling additional evidence that the 9/11 Pentagon story fed to the public by government, military, and media was a glaring hoax.

Every aspect of the "official" 9/11 story has been proven to be either false or highly questionable and suspicious, and any reasonable thinking person would conclude, after reviewing both the "official" story and the facts and evidence which contradict that story, that 9/11 was an inside job planned, executed, and covered up by conspirators seated in top level positions of our government, our military, and mainstream media.

There is surely way more compelling facts and evidence than should be necessary to require a new and thorough investigation of 9/11, and in resultant indictments of the real conspirators, but I doubt we will ever see that happen. Much of the physical evidence which would offer indisputable conclusive proof of a hoax has been destroyed or otherwise obscured. Evidential document records have likewise been shredded, hidden, or otherwise destroyed, and many of the 9/11 witnesses who were willing to reveal knowledge contrary to the "official" story have died of causes that are at best quite suspicious. Thus, in my opinion it is fruitless to request or hope that anyone currently seated in a position of influence high enough to compel a new investigation would actually do so. The only real and revealing investigations into 9/11 that we are ever likely to see are the ones already conducted by independent persons and groups within the 9/11 Truth movement, and while some of these studies offer differing theories about the relevant events, they all reach a similar conclusion - that the "official" 9/11 story was anything but the truth.

[rickoff]

The latest goings on in the 9/11 saga have Larry Silverstein, the World Trade Center leaseholder, pitted against United and American airlines in hopes of being awarded $3.5 billion. Greedy Larry claims the airlines should pay up because they allowed the claimed hijackers to board their planes on 9/11. A judge has now ruled against Larry, saying this would result in a double payment windfall for WTC losses, though Larry's lawyers say they will appeal the decision. Read much more about this here.

[Randomeyes]

Silverstein has lost a lot of money because of 9/11 and still continues to lose money. He's been paying rent for 12 years on a property that makes him zero income.

[rickoff]

Silverstein has lost a lot of money because of 9/11 and still continues to lose money. He's been paying rent for 12 years on a property that makes him zero income.

Do you seriously believe what you are saying? Silverstein and two other investors made a down payment of just $124 million on the WTC complex just six weeks before the buildings were destroyed. In 2003, as reported in The New York Times, Larry and his pals reached a deal on a return of about $98 million of their original investment of $124 million. The deal was also reported in California's MontereyHerald. [MontereyHerald 11/22/2003]

Besides getting back roughly 80% of the original investment, Larry made a very hefty profit on the insurance claims that he filed. As reported by Forbes.com on December 6, 2004, "A federal jury on Monday ruled that the assault on the Twin Towers of the World Trade Center was in fact two occurrences for insurance purposes. The finding in U.S. District Court in Manhattan means leaseholder Larry Silverstein may collect up to $4.6 billion, according to reports." [Forbes.com 12/06/04]

Greedy Larry also attempted to sue both American and United Airlines for allowing their planes to be flown into his buildings, and when that was unsuccessfuul then attempted to sue the insurance company for amounts the company had been able to collect from the airlines.

The original deal was a 99 year, $3.2 billion lease. That breaks down to 32 million a year, and here we are at 12 years after 9/11. Even if Larry continued to make the full scheduled payments over this 12 year period, which I seriously doubt that the Port Authority (owner of the buildings) forced him to do, that would amount to only $384 million, which is just 1/12 of his insurance scam payout. Larry had actually taken out insurance policies on the WTC with dozens of insurance companies, a fact which the Associated Press (AP) reported in 2007.

9/11 was no doubt the biggest scam in all of history, and Larry's part in it is very clear. After all, Larry admitted on videotape that he gave the order to "pull" WTC Building 7. That is a term which demolition experts use when referring to an intentional, planned demolition of a building. Later, when Larry realized he shouldn't have admitted that, he tried to convince us that what he really meant was to pull the firemen out of Building 7 as there had already been much loss of life. That explanation was pure hogwash, however, because the fire chief had earlier reported that the firemen had all left the building several hours before it collapsed.

Building 7 was not hit by a plane, and suffered only minor fire damage, but collapsed at free fall speed in a classic controlled demolition pattern. It was one of only three steel framed buildings ever to collapse for a stated reason of fire damage. The other two were the WTC Twin Towers. More than 2,000 architects and engineers agree that the "official" story of 9/11 is a farce. Don't you think it is high time that we had a real, and independent investigation into the events of 9/11/2001, and that the real players in this farce, including Larry, Bush, Cheney, and others, should be held accountable?

To see the latest news on what's new on 9/11, go here.

[rickoff]

The latest efforts to expose the truth of 9/11

Two very important events are underway currently in New York City, and have the capacity to significantly raise the awareness level of 9/11 truths among millions of New Yorkers.

First, there is an effort underway to get a "High Rise Safety Initiative" placed on the November voter's ballot. A petition drive was successful in obtaining the required number of signatures to place the question on the ballot, but the mayor and City Council are attempting to thwart the grassroots effort. That's understandable, because if placed on the ballot and approved by voters as is expected, it would require the city to have a full and independent investigation into the collapse of World Trade Center Building 7, and any other high rise structures within the city which collapse for the stated reason of fire damage. Read more about the "High Rise Safety Initiative" here.

Secondly, the 45 foot tall digital billboard in Times Square will begin showing the free-fall "collapse" of WTC Building 7 for a full month beginning September 8th, and asking New Yorkers to "Reconsider 9/11" by directing them to the web site of Architects and Engineers for 9/11 Truth.
There are now more than 2,000 architects and engineers, plus a demolitions expert, who denounce both the "official" NIST and 9/11 Commission reports regarding the collapse of WTC Building 7, as well as the twin towers. Read more about the billboard effort here.

[Danny B]

Lawsuit

Very interesting lawsuit;
World’s Biggest Class Action Lawsuit Now Imminent | Veterans Today

[Danny B]

Would the Saudis squeal?

The BIG job that occurred in NYC when the towers were destroyed required an equally BIG coverup. The whole job was executed by various snakes. It looks like the snakes are starting to fight.
Why US Government And Saudi Arabia Don't Want Americans Knowing The Truth About 9/11 | Zero Hedge

[rickoff]

15 years of 9/11 deception

We are now just 4 days away from the 15th anniversary of the events which took place on September 11, 2001. We can certainly expect that the lamestream media will run the usual 9/11 stories which purport to show that the "official" story of what happened that day was truthful and accurate. That deception has been carried on for 15 years now, but for those who seek the truth there have been 15 years of honest efforts made to expose the many 9/11 myths and falsehoods. These efforts have been undertaken by individuals and groups aligned with what is now referred to as the 9/11 Truth movement (Pilots for 9/11 Truth, Architects and Engineers for 9/11 Truth, Firefighters for 9/11 Truth, Scientists for 9/11 Truth, Scholars for 9/11 Truth, etc.).

Here are links to two of the most recent efforts made to expose the 9/11 deception and show the truth regarding the World Trade Center events:

15 years later: on the physics of high-rise building collapses
a feature article appearing in the magazine of the European Physical Society, Europhysics News.

World Trade Center Physics
a booklet prepared by Architects & Engineers for 9/11 Truth, which is now available as a free download in pdf file format.

Note that both of these efforts are directly related to explaining what really happened on 9/11 through examining the laws of physics, and how the "official" explanations violate those laws, thus irrefutably proving that the "official" narrative is false.

[mbrownn]

Thanks for the reminder Rick, no doubt Facebook will be removing posts about the truth along with google.

[Danny B]

9/11 lawsuit

Congress never agrees on anything. Congress agreed OVERWHELMINGLY on allowing the 9/11 lawsuits to go forward. WHY?
Saudi Arabia Responds To US 9/11 Bill Veto | Zero Hedge
The Saudis say that there will be consequences. Saudi Arabia is going downhill fast,,, financially. Will the Saudis blow the whistle on the primary participants of the destruction? Is congress ready to see Cheney, Bush, MOSSAD, et al take a big fall?

[Danny B]

Trump is detirmined to commit suicide

Trump: I’m Reopening 9/11 Investigation – InvestmentWatch
All the kings horses and all the kings men can't save his a$$

[rickoff]

Finally! Some 9/11 truth from a NIST employee!

In post #56 of this thread, I posted a link to the following article:

15 years later: on the physics of high-rise building collapses
a feature article appearing in the magazine of the European Physical Society, Europhysics News.

On November 21, 2016, Europhysics News released its first issue since the publication of “15 years later: On the physics of high-rise building collapses,” which has now been viewed nearly 350,000 times since its release — and which even caused the magazine's server to break down at one point.

Lo and behold, on page 43 is a startling and extraordinary letter to the editor by a former employee of the National Institute of Standards and Technology (NIST), Peter Michael Ketcham, who worked at NIST from 1997 until 2011. Note that Ketcham's response is the second article appearing on the letter to the editor page link above, while the first article is a lame attempt by someone to label the "15 years later" article as hogwash.



In his letter, Mr. Ketcham makes it clear that he did not contribute to NIST’s World Trade Center investigation. In fact, it wasn't until last August that he began reading the NIST WTC reports and watching documentaries challenging NIST’s findings. The more he investigated, he writes, “the more it became apparent that NIST had reached a predetermined conclusion by ignoring, dismissing, and denying the evidence.”

Mr. Ketcham closes his stunning 500-word rebuke by calling upon NIST to “blow the whistle on itself now” before awareness of the “disconnect between the NIST WTC reports and logical reasoning” grows exponentially.

The courageous stand Mr. Ketcham has taken in criticizing the reports issued by his former employer of 14 years is yet another sign of the rapidly increasing skepticism toward the official 9/11 narrative among scientific and technical professionals. No doubt, his emergence will help accelerate the path toward exposing NIST's WTC reports as false and unscientific.