Proof 9/11 was planned is in.

[Evolvealready]

OK to your credit you tried to answer the questions without resorting to a blanket denial of the evidence. However it appears that you have not bothered to really study any the evidence that contradicts the official story. So lets take just one example, the collapse of the towers; the governmental bureaucrats tell us that this was simply caused by burning jet fuel. But no need to worry government as everything under control now and you can go to watching your soap operas and sports games.

However countering them there are now over a thousand professional engineers and architects who have actually studied the design of the buildings and the physics involved of a plane flying into them. There conclusion is there was no way that those planes alone could have caused the destruction that we saw.

So if you are willing to accept that professional engineers just might actually know what they’re talking about this opens up a can of worms. As that would mean that our government officials were lying to us and we know government officials would never lie. But if they did then what other things might they be lying about? Obviously this can get very scary very quickly so I agree it is better that you just blindly accept whatever your masters tell you and not ask them embarrassing questions.

Most engineers would be insulted by the suggestion that they agreed with you. If you want to go by a vote of engineers who have studied those buildings you lose every time--it isn't even close. I live in Seattle where our federal building is built with the same exterior support. I've examined it. I've read the reports of some of your engineers. They speak in generalities, not knowing what type of building they are dealing with. I've also read the debunking engineering articles in professional engineering journals. They are rightfully embarrassed by the musings of those who say it couldn't happen.

[Evolvealready]

The problem is that you are so immersed in your mythology that you don't see that the "engineers" that agree with you are a tiny, tiny minority.

[Aaron]

Active Thermitic Material Discovered in Dust from the 9/11 World Trade Center Catastr

There was thermite loaded throughout the complex and it is more than just
Jones saying this... I posted this in the past, here it is again - regardless
of what this online journals is - there are credible chemists in the paper.

Get the pdf:
http://www.bentham.org/open/tocpj/ar...002/7TOCPJ.pdf

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Active Thermitic Material Discovered in Dust from the 9/11 World Trade Center Catastr
Here is the abstract of the paper published in the peer reviewed journal:
Open Chemical Physics Journal:

Bentham Science Publishers

The download link to the left gives you the pdf for free and there are NINE (9) authors of the article and not just Jones from Utah.

Active Thermitic Material Discovered in Dust from the 9/11 World Trade Center Catastrophe

Niels H. Harrit*,1, Jeffrey Farrer2, Steven E. Jones*,3, Kevin R. Ryan4, Frank M. Legge5, Daniel Farnsworth2, Gregg Roberts6, James R. Gourley7 and Bradley R. Larsen3

1 Department of Chemistry, University of Copenhagen, Denmark

2 Department of Physics and Astronomy, Brigham Young University, Provo, UT 84602, USA

3 S&J Scientific Co., Provo, UT, 84606, USA

4 9/11 Working Group of Bloomington, Bloomington, IN 47401, USA

5 Logical Systems Consulting, Perth, Western Australia

6 Architects & Engineers for 9/11 Truth, Berkeley, CA 94704, USA

7 International Center for 9/11 Studies, Dallas, TX 75231, USA

Abstract: We have discovered distinctive red/gray chips in all the samples we have studied of the dust produced by the
destruction of the World Trade Center. Examination of four of these samples, collected from separate sites, is reported in
this paper. These red/gray chips show marked similarities in all four samples. One sample was collected by a Manhattan
resident about ten minutes after the collapse of the second WTC Tower, two the next day, and a fourth about a week later.
The properties of these chips were analyzed using optical microscopy, scanning electron microscopy (SEM), X-ray energy
dispersive spectroscopy (XEDS), and differential scanning calorimetry (DSC). The red material contains grains approximately
100 nm across which are largely iron oxide, while aluminum is contained in tiny plate-like structures. Separation
of components using methyl ethyl ketone demonstrated that elemental aluminum is present. The iron oxide and aluminum
are intimately mixed in the red material. When ignited in a DSC device the chips exhibit large but narrow exotherms occurring
at approximately 430 °C, far below the normal ignition temperature for conventional thermite. Numerous iron-rich
spheres are clearly observed in the residue following the ignition of these peculiar red/gray chips. The red portion of these
chips is found to be an unreacted thermitic material and highly energetic.
Keywords: Scanning electron microscopy, X-ray energy dispersive spectroscopy, Differential scanning calorimetry, DSC
analysis, World Trade Center, WTC dust, 9/11, Iron-rich microspheres, Thermite, Super-thermite, Energetic nanocomposites,
Nano-thermite.

[aljhoa]

Straight from the horse's mouth


YouTube - U.S. Government lies about molten steel found at Ground Zero after 9/11

Al

Jet A-1 Jet A
Autoignition temperature 210 °C (410 °F)
Freezing point < −47 °C (−52.6 °F) < −40 °C (−40 °F)
Open air burning temperatures 287.5 °C (549.5 °F)
Density at 15 °C (59 °F) 0.775 kg/L to 0.840 kg/L
Specific energy > 42.80 MJ/kg
Jet fuel - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia

Thermal properties
The properties of steel vary widely, depending on its alloying elements.
The austenizing temperature, the temperature where a steel transforms to an austenite crystal structure, for steel starts at 900°C for pure iron, then, as more carbon is added, the temperature falls to a minimum 724°C for eutectic steel (steel with only .83% by weight of carbon in it). As 2.1% carbon (by mass) is approached, the austenizing temperature climbs back up, to 1130°C. Similarly, the melting point of steel changes based on the alloy.

The lowest temperature at which a plain carbon steel can begin to melt, its solidus, is 1130 °C. Steel never turns into a liquid below this temperature. Pure Iron ('Steel' with 0% Carbon) starts to melt at 1492 °C (2720 °F), and is completely liquid upon reaching 1539 °C (2802 °F). Steel with 2.1% Carbon by weight begins melting at 1130 °C (2066 °F), and is completely molten upon reaching 1315 °C (2400 °F). 'Steel' with more than 2.1% Carbon is no longer Steel, but is known as Cast iron.[2]
Structural steel - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia

YouTube - Huge Plane Crash Fireball!

What was fireball duration?
Is structural steel fireproofed?
What melted structural steel?
Al

[duke]

TWO Facts:


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YouTube - New NEWS - BBC Video - WTC 7 - Prior Knowledge


Al

WTC # 7 was professionaly demolished. It was said on TV, that verysame day. The insurance holder of the world trade centers is the one that spoke on television and after his appearance oon TV, he was told that he made a mistake by telling u viwers on TV that they had to "pull" down the building (professional term to destroy it)

Now after knowing that, is it posssible to walk in a building within minutes or hours and have it come down perfectly? no. You need months of careful planning. Like where you need to cut the beams, where the explosives need to be put.

EDIT: here is the link to youtube YouTube - WTC 7 - Pull It By Larry Silverstein

so imagine this is one of your post, holding the building

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iimagine putting a stick of explosive where the 2 diagonal lines are. When exploded at the same time it will result in pusing the beam, then collapsing on each other.

Some ppl took pictures of the WTC cleanup, and found LOTS of metal peices and molten metal orund the edge of the beam, but for some reaon this beam was still stck in the ground, whice leads me to beleive it was cut, inserted with explosive, and detonated.


The speed the towers fell, defies the laws of gravity.
i could go on and on and on and on. but like many ppl out there. some really need to see the TRUTH.

Edit: here is a video of a building that burnt for nearly 20 hrs..... and look at it, did it melt? YouTube - The Windsor Tower in Madrid Spain

[ztec2002]

blown away

donald rumsfeld never heard of wtc7 whats going on with this guy? a simpile answer as its not resolved yet would sufice not never knew about it ?
totaly amased by this answer?
cheers:

[Aaron]

The 9/11 Commission Rejects own Report as Based on Government Lies

Sep-11-2009 23:46 The 9/11 Commission Rejects own Report as Based on Government Lies

Gordon Duff Salem-News.com

How long have we watered the Tree of Deceit with the blood of patriots?

John Farmer’s book: “The Ground Truth: The Story Behind America’s Defense on 9/11″

(CINCINNATI, Ohio) - In John Farmer’s book: “The Ground Truth: The Story Behind America’s Defense on 9/11″, the author builds the inescapably convincing case that the official version... is almost entirely untrue...


The 9/11 Commission now tells us that the official version of 9/11 was based on false testimony and documents and is almost entirely untrue. The details of this massive cover-up are carefully outlined in a book by John Farmer, who was the Senior Counsel for the 9/11 Commission.


Farmer, Dean of Rutger Universities' School of Law and former Attorney General of New Jersey, was responsible for drafting the original flawed 9/11 report.


Does Farmer have cooperation and agreement from other members of the Commission? Yes. Did they say Bush ordered 9/11? No.

Do they say that the 9/11 Commission was lied to by the FBI, CIA, Whitehouse and NORAD? Yes. Is there full documentary proof of this? Yes.



Farmer states...“at some level of the government, at some point in time…there was an agreement not to tell the truth about what happened... I was shocked at how different the truth was from the way it was described …. The [Norad air defense] tapes told a radically different story from what had been told to us and the public for two years. This is not spin.”


The 9/11 Commission head, Thomas Kean, was the Republican governor of New Jersey. He had the following to say... “We to this day don’t know why NORAD [the North American Aerospace Command] told us what they told us, it was just so far from the truth. . . " When Bush's own handpicked commission failed to go along with the cover up and requested a criminal investigation, why was nothing done?



9/11 Commission member and former US Senator, Bob Kerrey, says, "No one is more qualified to write the definitive book about the tragedy of 9/11 than John Farmer. Fortunately, he has done so. Even more fortunately the language is clear, alive and instructive for anyone who wants to make certain this never happens again."


With the only "official" 9/11 report now totally false, where do we go from here? Who is hurt by these lies? The families of the victims of 9/11 have fought, for years, to get to the truth. For years, our government has hidden behind lies and secrecy to deny them closure.


Whole article here:
The 9/11 Commission Rejects own Report as Based on Government Lies - Salem-News.Com


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I knew about this but thinking about it. The entire deal here could be
misinformation planned long in advance.



One that proves the official story is bunk by the very officials that

proclaimed it as true in the beginning. Then at a later time to proclaim
it was based on a lie but not revealing what actually happened. A

damage control one that lets people believe that their report of the truth
is what really happened so that many people will not buy into anything
deeper like Bush's possible involvement, etc...


Basically a fake expose that reveals enough of a lie to show there was
a lie and this is the truth to prevent a deeper truth from ever being
questioned.

[Pamela Vicik-Smith]

Rather paradoxical...

[aljhoa]

Göring spoke about war and extreme nationalism to Captain Gilbert, as recorded in Gilbert's Nuremberg Diary:

Naturally, the common people don't want war; neither in Russia nor in England nor in America, nor for that matter in Germany. That is understood. But, after all, it is the leaders of the country who determine the policy and it is always a simple matter to drag the people along, whether it is a democracy or a fascist dictatorship or a Parliament or a Communist dictatorship. ...voice or no voice, the people can always be brought to the bidding of the leaders. That is easy. All you have to do is to tell them they are being attacked, and denounce the pacifists for lack of patriotism and exposing the country to danger. It works the same way in any country.[44]
Hermann Göring - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia



http://i187.photobucket.com/albums/x...flag091201.jpg

Al

[ztec2002]

follow the money

puppets like rumsfled,bush,chiany are not the ones to blame its the ones that made money from this 9/11 night mare. the fed reserve and who runs it should be looked at and arms contracters , these guys just the few have almost all the wealth of the world are the ones to look at.these guys have the most to gain.follow the money and you have the night mare in your hands.then you can charge them and have them put in prison.


cheers

[Muon]

Here is a set of experiments that demonstrate that thermite can indeed cut through vertical steel beams, as Prof. Jones and other scientists have said.
I like experimental proofs like this.

(The experimenter demonstrates courage to work with this stuff... Jon Cole)

YouTube - Proof that Thermite can cut a vertical column

[aljhoa]

48 Millionaires on the 4 Flights of 9/11 and STILL counting!

Was there a New Identity Program, which was being sold to rich people who were part of the syndicate, who then played the role of 9/11 Passengers?
By Phil Jayhan
http://letsrollforums.com/48-million...ts-t20579.html

[shawn]

Very few people ever discuss the gold which was missing from the sub-basements of the WTC.
And the trillions of missing cash with the paper evidence in the very room which was destroyed in the pentagon.

Cut through the illusion and connect the dots.....home run.
{Name of the program which allows remote piloting of these planes}

[aljhoa]

YouTube - Dimitri Khalezov 911 video - the most prohibited item on the web
YouTube - Nuclear destruction of the WTC
YouTube - Dr. Deagle 911 WTC mini nukes test results (short version)

[Mad Scientist]

YouTube - Dimitri Khalezov 911 video - the most prohibited item on the web
YouTube - Nuclear destruction of the WTC
YouTube - Dr. Deagle 911 WTC mini nukes test results (short version)

What you doubt that was caused by burning kerosene/jet fuel? You dare question the official story?

The nuclear angle is something I had not considered before, but then what caused all the microscopic dust?