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  • #46
    New World Order !!! Yes

    Originally posted by Mad Scientist View Post
    If you listen to some of the economists the ones that are not connected with some government agency they agree that 9-10% unemployment is unrealistic and in reality it is probably twice that. They also predict that like the housing markets collapse it is likely that the commercial loan market will be next.

    With people losing their jobs and homes there is less need for commercial property. So as a result those individuals who went heavily into debt to develop commercial property if they find that they are now unable to rent or lease that property they stand to lose not thousands of dollars like the homeowner but millions of dollars. For our economy that would be like the sound of the other shoe hitting the floor.

    What we are watching here would appear to the controlled demolition of our economy in preparation for a new world order.
    YOU ARE CORRECT
    WATCH THE PRISONPLANET.TV DOCUMENTARY "THE OBAMA DECEPTION" IT EXPLAINS ALL OF IT
    EVEN DOWN TO THE FAKE GLOBAL WARMING SCARE TO CREATE A HUGE GREEN TAX BASE...PUPPETS MAN, THATS ALL WE ARE TO THE BANKERS

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    • #47
      "Heads up! Reality Change Ahead!

      in running our MOM (model of modelspace) cleanup of the lexicon prior to tuning, it became apparent that October 25 turn in emotions globally will be dominated by a [lock down/implosion] of the [planetary financial/banking system]. The data suggests that such things a [currency trading] and [commodities trading] as well as many other [digital trading forms] will be [suspended]. Some will never resume, or if they do, they will be in entirely different forms. There may be a [banking lock up] in many countries emanating from the USofA outward. There may be [inter bank lock downs] in which [central banks] and [wealth storage clearing houses] will not be able to function. There are data sets suggesting that the rapid shift into building tension language on the 25th originates from and is propelled by the [financial system implosion] that then morphs over into [dollar rejected by all] a mere 10/ten days (more or less) later. There may be shut downs of all kinds of banking activity within the USofA and the rest of the anglosphere.

      The [sudden/urgent travel] of the [administration (obama et al) minions] in early November, under this MOM background load shows up as being about [desperately trying] to get the rest of the [planet] to [loan] the actual [resources/wealth] to [restart] the [USofA banking system].

      This MOM data set can be wrong in a way that the larger modelspace can not. The MOM set is so small that if it is wrong it is usually widely so. However, the data sets here are so focused, and bring in such crisp emotional shifts relative to the same days (10-25-2009), that it made sense to prepare this note.

      If correct, this is the beginning of "The Big One" relative to the dollar and the central banking system. Everything else in the modern world depends on this structure...so it will be a big one throughout all of the social infrastructure.

      If MOM is correct, then the [dollar death] will be way more dramatic and waaaay shorter than i had first thought. MOM is showing very dramatic language shifts (albeit against a much smaller background) for not only October 25, but also in a very sharp crocodile tooth pattern from November 4 through December 10th indicating a very very emotionally choppy time.

      So, heads up! Reality shift (time/event bump) just ahead. If MOM is correct, there will be some additional levels of [visibility] on October 10th through the 15th that will put a focus on the 'trigger' that will show on October 25th and beyond.

      Masa Katsu! Pie up now, panic later.

      clif and cathy and igor.

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      • #48
        Originally posted by rickoff View Post
        It would appear that you are suggesting that I am either a liar, or didn't have my facts straight. In post #19, I had said, "ACORN and its top officials are under indictment in 15 states for voter fraud and related activities.
        Rick, if you watched the vid I posted it said the news stories had this wrong.

        I'll post it again.

        This is what Rove fired US attorneys for. They said there was no fraud (which there wasn't) so he fired them.

        I don't create my posts with only you in mind. You said a ton of bad stuff about ACORN. Saying they were under indictment for voter fraud certainly gives a bad impression. I am merely showing the whole picture.

        I am putting out information to everyone.

        http://salsa.wiredforchange.com/o/27...paign_KEY=2977
        Keep your mind on the aether www.PathsToSucceed.com

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        • #49
          Economic Recovery for whom?

          Economic Recovery for whom?

          U.S. Foreclosure Filings Top 300,000 for Sixth Straight Month (September 10, 2009)
          Remember to be kind to your mind ...
          Tesla quoting Buddha: "Ignorance is the greatest evil in the world."

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          • #50
            Rick, if you watched the vid I posted it said the news stories had this wrong.

            I'll post it again.

            This is what Rove fired US attorneys for. They said there was no fraud (which there wasn't) so he fired them.

            I don't create my posts with only you in mind. You said a ton of bad stuff about ACORN. Saying they were under indictment for voter fraud certainly gives a bad impression. I am merely showing the whole picture.

            I am putting out information to everyone.

            http://salsa.wiredforchange.com/o/27...paign_KEY=2977


            Thanks for the link, all that shows is exactly why Nobody watches msnbc...

            The speaker goes on and on about the right wing mounting an attack on poor Acorn who does nothing but help poor people. She refuses to acknowledge that the reason Acorn is getting such a huge amount of coverage because its shockingly Not a partisan attack and there actually are illegal activities taking place. That is the reason financial services are dropping Acorn like a hot potato.

            There are special interest groups on both sides of the isle who work and do anything to inject political change that will benfit themselves. However to assert that all of the fraudulent charges are merely a product of the right wing groups is a complete lie. Acorn has been around for 40 years and special interest groups have been too. Why are they only now being defunded?

            Amazing how that clip only mentions the postitution exposure in a 2 second sentence, which the speaker did not comment on. Then along the end another guest lies about Acorn having nothing to do with registration fraud. Although there are many hand witnesses who will tell you themselves Acorn workers paid them to register fraudulently. Maybe that speaker closed his eyes during the reporting on that? See no evil, Do no evil?


            btw, Great posts rick, its very nice to read the abundance of data you present. I'm sure it takes quite some time to type your replies and I for one appreciate it.

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            • #51
              Reply to Nadda

              Originally posted by Nadda View Post
              Great posts rick, its very nice to read the abundance of data you present. I'm sure it takes quite some time to type your replies and I for one appreciate it.
              Thanks, Nadda. It really does take considerable time to post replies that use factual information and references to dispel myths and misinformation of the type that Jessica has so relentlessly pursued in this thread and others. To my way of thinking, when we see such drivel being promoted to others in an open discussion forum we are somewhat obliged to counter it with factual information. Even in the face of massive and uncontestable evidence, however, Jessica still insists that ACORN has done nothing improper, and that there has been no fraud perpetrated by the organization. To remain standing on such shaky ground, after all that has been put forward, is both ludicrous and delusional. I feel reasonably assured that Jessica will continue her disinformation quest, and I hope that you and others here will continue to counter her groundless assertions with reason and facts. I also feel that I have already put forth more than enough verifiable information to enable even the most confused reader to determine the truth, and will therefore be concentrating my efforts in other threads that are more deserving.

              Best to you, and to all who champion truth and the freedom to speak it,


              Rick
              "Seek wisdom by keeping an open mind to alternative realities, questioning authority, and searching for truth. Only then, when you see or hear something that has 'the ring of truth' to it, will it be as if a veil has been lifted, and suddenly you will begin to hear and see far more clearly than ever before." - Rickoff

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              • #52
                Initial job loss claims down:

                New jobless claims fall to 521K, lowest since Jan.

                WASHINGTON – The number of newly laid-off workers filing first-time claims for jobless benefits fell to the lowest level since early January, as layoffs eased a bit amid a fledgling economic recovery. . .

                New jobless claims fall to 521K, lowest since Jan. - Yahoo! News


                Retailers see sales begin to recover in September


                NEW YORK – The nation's stores saw their first sales gain in 14 months in September, a sign of life from shoppers that fuels some hope for the holiday shopping season. . . .

                Retailers see sales begin to recover in September - Yahoo! News
                Keep your mind on the aether www.PathsToSucceed.com

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                • #53
                  Um ok.


                  Nonfarm payroll employment continued to decline in September (-263,000), and
                  the unemployment rate (9.8 percent) continued to trend up, the U.S. Bureau of
                  Labor Statistics reported today. The largest job losses were in construction,
                  manufacturing, retail trade, and government.

                  Since the start of the recession in December 2007, the number of unemployed
                  persons has increased by 7.6 million to 15.1 million, and the unemployment
                  rate has doubled to 9.8 percent.

                  Employment Situation Summary

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                  • #54
                    "Um ok" I never said it hadn't gotten bad, only that it's now getting better.
                    Keep your mind on the aether www.PathsToSucceed.com

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                    • #55
                      Nonfarm payroll employment continued to decline in September (-263,000), and the unemployment rate (9.8 percent) continued to trend up!!

                      Getting better?

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                      • #56
                        Yes it is getting better. Not every single thing will be out of the red this instant.
                        Keep your mind on the aether www.PathsToSucceed.com

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                        • #57
                          Where do you see that is getting better? Even your article you posted stated it's not getting better. Please help me to understand.

                          I just posted the data from the BLS stating its getting worse. You chose to ignore that?

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                          • #58
                            I don't know how you got that from the articles I posted.
                            Keep your mind on the aether www.PathsToSucceed.com

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                            • #59
                              "The fourth drop in new claims in five weeks is a sign the labor market is slowly healing. But employers are reluctant to hire new workers and the unemployment rate is expected to keep climbing well into next year."

                              People filing for unemployment claims has nothing to do with total unemployment.

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                              • #60
                                Originally posted by carbideTip View Post
                                "The fourth drop in new claims in five weeks is a sign the labor market is slowly healing. But employers are reluctant to hire new workers and the unemployment rate is expected to keep climbing well into next year."

                                People filing for unemployment claims has nothing to do with total unemployment.
                                Quite right, C.T. In fact, the lessening of new claims being filed, when considered in the face of unemployment still rising (as reported by BLS) points to an ominous situation in which a great many of the unemployed have exhausted their benefits and cannot reapply. And since many of these people have become destitute and given up hope of finding a job, they are not considered as being actively seeking a job any more. This takes them out of the group of people that BLS includes as being in the "labor pool." With unemployment already so high, and certainly far worse than BLS reports would have us believe, the fact that there is any amount of new unemployment claims is alarming, as it points to the fact that things are getting worse, not better.

                                Rick
                                "Seek wisdom by keeping an open mind to alternative realities, questioning authority, and searching for truth. Only then, when you see or hear something that has 'the ring of truth' to it, will it be as if a veil has been lifted, and suddenly you will begin to hear and see far more clearly than ever before." - Rickoff

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