David Icke?

[frederick4life2004]

Hi Rick, we will never agree on Icke.
I'm very happy that there are hospital places for all, I'm not going to trawl the NET for evidence ,what I put in print is fact and Im happy for rapid change.
Are the UN a bunch of rumour monger sceptics too in their recent reports on the dire conditions for some?, rating them as third world conditions.
What has brought about Health Reform?.
The new president of the USA a Fraud, ?.{I think he's great }
Icke, well he names names, why do the majority take no notice?.perhaps wise.
Yes there is talk of a World government and currency, wow exciting times ahead.A stabilised currency and interest rates for world trade,that's what this is all about,what a awesome thought
But the world is still flat, I forget.
The world banks can print money,it won't resolve a thing,fiscal education will and accountability of the Banks, stable trading currency.


I'm from a family of ten children, being miserable and blaming the world, overspending etc, don't put food on a table. I know.Hope and Faith are great.
Police states etc,do you seriously expect that out come?.
Can I ask Rick, are you genuinely convinced this is where America is going, the Icke conspiracy ways, reptillians and all,
Best wishes, Fred.

ps: Rick,World History , thats a subject I spend much time studying,we are very very lucky .

[Mad Scientist]

Here is my take on this.

I'm very happy that there are hospital places for all, I'm not going to trawl the NET for evidence ,what I put in print is fact and Im happy for rapid change.
Are the UN a bunch of rumour monger sceptics too in their recent reports on the dire conditions for some?, rating them as third world conditions.
What has brought about Health Reform?.

What health reform? According to a lawyer who specializes in constitution law and has actually read all 2000 plus pages of our new health care bill, something that most of our representatives have not done, this bill has very little to do with health care and everything to do with greater government control over everyone’s lives.

The new president of the USA a Fraud, ?.{I think he's great }

So why has he spend over $100,000 to prevent anyone from seeing his birth certificate which would prove that he is constitutionally able to be president?

Icke, well he names names, why do the majority take no notice?.perhaps wise.

Maybe. But then maybe because they are afraid of where that might lead and would rather pretend that it doesn’t exist.

Yes there is talk of a World government and currency, wow exciting times ahead.A stabilised currency and interest rates for world trade,that's what this is all about,what a awesome thought

Yes that to sounds nice and it is what the bankers want. A one world government with them in complete control, of course in this utopia the population will be reduced to being virtual slaves. Do you really think that if the slave masters were doing something that you don’t like, that they would pay any attention to your concerns?

But the world is still flat, I forget.

I believe that there is still a flat earth society somewhere.

The world banks can print money,it won't resolve a thing,fiscal education will and accountability of the Banks, stable trading currency.

I agree. But that is the very last things that the banks and the one would government crowd wants. Without being able to manipulate our money supply they would lose control over us.

I'm from a family of ten children, being miserable and blaming the world, overspending etc, don't put food on a table. I know.Hope and Faith are great.
Police states etc,do you seriously expect that out come?.

Yes. Total control over the public is what the new world order is all about. We can already see many of our rights and freedoms as individuals being chipped away at. Naturally we are told that this is being done for our safety and protection. If allowed to continue eventually we will be so safe and protected that we will not be able to do anything without first getting government permission.

Can I ask Rick, are you genuinely convinced this is where America is going, the Icke conspiracy ways, reptillians and all,

It sure looks like it me, although I’m not to sure about the reptilians but I wouldn’t totally rule them out.

[rickoff]

Hi Rick, we will never agree on Icke.

I can see that, Fred, and that's fine with me.

I'm very happy that there are hospital places for all, I'm not going to trawl the NET for evidence ,what I put in print is fact and Im happy for rapid change.Are the UN a bunch of rumour monger sceptics too in their recent reports on the dire conditions for some?, rating them as third world conditions.

What you stated was not fact, and you were obviously misinformed about the availability of healthcare for the poor in the USA. I corrected that. It looks like you still don't believe anything but the hogwash being fed to you. Do yourself, and the rest of us, a favor and look up the Emergency Medical Treatment and Active Labor Act (EMTALA). This Act of Congress, passed in 1986, requires US hospitals and ambulance services to provide free ambulance service and emergency medical care to anyone who is unable to pay.

The UN has its motives for spreading all sorts of anti American propaganda, and has done so since its inception. It is one of the most corrupt and sinister organizations on the face of this earth. Don't think so? Watch this, and then tell me if you will still defend them.
The U.N. Deception

What has brought about Health Reform?

What you see happening at this time in the USA is not about Health Reform. It is a grab for power by the federal government. The federal Medicare program was adopted in 1965 as a single-payer medical insurance program for people aged 65 and over. Today that program is nearly bankrupt. That's real history for you. If the federal government failed to administer Medicare soundly, then how could they possibly be trusted to soundly and responsibly administer a single-payer healthcare system for all US citizens? Maybe you think we should just have hope and faith in our elected officials. Sorry, I don't buy that, and there are many millions of others who will not buy it either.

[quote=frederick4life2004;74985]The new president of the USA a Fraud, ?.{I think he's great }
Yes, that's obvious, and since you are so brainwashed by the mainstream media into believing that Obama is some kind of saviour, that's understandable. What you probably don't realize is that there is an enormous groundswell of opposition to the Obama administration's policies and programs. Here in the USA there is no royalty. Those who are elected to positions in state and federal government are public servants, but many of them have forgotten this. They take oaths to uphold and defend the Constitution of the United States, but then abuse and violate it. Obama is no exception. He is a deception.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=eAaQNACwaLw

Icke, well he names names, why do the majority take no notice?.perhaps wise.

Wise? I don't think so. It is human nature to absorb what is taught to us from early childhood as unquestioned reality, so we are preconditioned to accept what we read in Newspapers and magazines, and what we hear and see on radio and TV. Anyone who tells a different story than what we have been indoctrinated to believe is of course immediately disbelieved by most people. But for those who keep an open mind to new viewpoints, and are willing to listen to and explore these ideas, there can be a great awakening. People are waking up to reality in great numbers. This isn't just about David Icke. He is only one of the messengers, and there are a great many more. I don't flat out agree with everything that David says, but much of what he stated about the New World Order agenda many years ago has now come to pass, and the rest is clearly within reach of the global elite unless we take action to expose and thwart their plan.

Yes there is talk of a World government and currency, wow exciting times ahead.A stabilised currency and interest rates for world trade,that's what this is all about,what a awesome thought

Well, Fred, you may be willing to give up sovereignty of your country and be dominated in every aspect of your life by an all powerful centralized ruling class, but that's not my dream. I believe in the concepts of liberty, freedom, and justice that my country's Founding Fathers bestowed upon us in the Declaration of Independence, Bill of Rights, and Constitution, and I am not willing or eager to give up any of that to a New World Order.

The world banks can print money,it won't resolve a thing,fiscal education will and accountability of the Banks, stable trading currency.

Now there's something we agree upon. But how do you think the current worldwide fiscal crisis came to be, and who are the people at the core of whatever is responsible for it? It is the very same group of people who are attempting to foist a New World Order upon us. And as long as these people hold the purse strings and manipulate the political puppets, there will be no accountability. The Obama administration is not concerned with accountability of the banks. The administration's top posts have been filled with Wall Street elitists, and enormous bailouts have been handed to Wall Street Banks and Investment companies with little or no stipulations on how that money would be spent or repaid. Already, 9.7 trillion dollars has disappeared into a black hole, and the private bankers who operate the Federal Reserve Bank (a private, not federal institution) refuse to tell us where that money went. Polls show that well over 90% of US citizens were against the bailouts, but the government went ahead with it anyway. Obama's overall approval rating has now dropped below 50%, and only 27% strongly approve. We are not happy with our government representatives, and there is a large and ever growing movement afoot to take back our country. You may or may not have heard about the "Tea Parties" that have been held across our nation to protest an irresponsible and out of control federal government, and there are many more organized efforts underway. Many states are presently enacting legislation to assert their sovereignty under 10th Amendment rights guaranteed by the Constitution. This is happening because the states can clearly see that the federal government is attempting to steadily erode all of our Constitutional rights. So don't make the mistake of thinking that what we envision coming at us from the federal government is just the paranoid delusion of a relative few. Our blinders are off, and we are seeing very clearly. We have hope that we can be successful in restoring our country to the form of government that our Founding Fathers intended, but we have more than just hope - we have an action plan and we will pursue it.

Rick,World History , thats a subject I spend much time studying.

That's good, Fred, but maybe it's time to look at where your source material is coming from.

[rickoff]

I’m not too sure about the reptilians but I wouldn’t totally rule them out.

I'd say there are quite a few snakes in the grass on Capitol Hill, wouldn't you, MS?

[frederick4life2004]

Hi Rick, that's a great photo.
My great Grandparents and grandmother are American,please do the message board a favour and stop making personal attacks and such huge random statements, its a beautiful world, we have great freedom {Sovereignty's a tired worn out cliché that always comes out of the bag to install fear in nations, useless rather like the Medicine of a Quack I think}
Yes we are like the north and south pole, great either way.
Fred.
ps:I have some great photos of real reptiles, maybe I should post a few.Have a great weekend.

[Mad Scientist]

Speaking of history there is a little history of our money system.
In the early 1900’s may people were concerned about amount of control that a few New York banks had over the economy. As a result there was a demand for banking reform. Naturally the bankers saw this as a threat to their way of doing business. Thus the Federal Reserve System was created to control to these wild swings in the economy and to control inflation and this sounded good to the average person.

Unfortunately what the people back then didn’t realize was that this system was secretly designed and created by the very bankers that it was suppose to control. Thus it really shouldn’t be any surprise that no matter how hard the Federal Reserve System claims to be trying to control the ups and downs of the economy they are never quite able to do it. Oh but they are working to the very best of their ability and if we just give them enough time maybe they will eventually get it right.

It was also claimed that they were going to control inflation. So how well have they done? Since it beginning the dollar has only lost 90% of its value.

With friends like this working for you who needs enemies?

[rickoff]

My great Grandparents and grandmother are American,please do the message board a favour and stop making personal attacks and such huge random statements

What exactly are you referring to as personal attacks and "huge random statements?" Do you feel attacked by my refutation of bogus claims? My intentions are only to set the record straight by providing factual information whenever I see misinformation being espoused.

Sovereignty's a tired worn out cliché that always comes out of the bag to install fear in nations, useless rather like the Medicine of a Quack I think

It may be useless in countries where you have sovereign rulers who believe it is their birthright to be elevated to a position high above all others, and to have power and control over the lives of those below them. In those countries, sovereignty equates to royalty. In this country, however, sovereignty has a different meaning. It is the protective Constitutional right of the individual states, and the people therein, to not be bound by any laws or conditions imposed by the federal government which are not in accord with the Constitution. This is an extremely important right, and one that we should be very thankful for. It lies at the very foundation of freedom, liberty, and justice, and is our best protection against the tyranny of those who would attempt to relinquish US sovereignty to an all powerful World Government. It is by no means a useless contrivance, as you suggest.

I have some great photos of real reptiles, maybe I should post a few. Have a great weekend.

By all means, Fred, feel free to do that if that's your thing. You have a fine weekend too. While you are relaxing this weekend, you might find it interesting to pick up and read a copy of Carl Sagan's book, The Dragons of Eden, which, incidentally,won A Pulitzer Prize. In Mr. Sagan’s book, it is emphasized that in our search for the evolution of human intelligence, it is extremely important that we do not ignore the most ancient part of the human brain upon which all other segments are but additions. According to the neuroanatomist Paul MacLean, the ancient area of the "triune" brain, is driven by another prehistoric region that some neuroanatomists call the R-Complex. The R standing for reptilian. It is referred to as the R-Complex because we share it with reptiles.

Mr. Sagan carefully points out the fact that the human brain develops from the inside out, in evolutionary sequence. First the neutral cassis, which regulates the heart, blood and respiration, then secondly and most importantly, the R-Complex, which is the primordial evidence of intelligence. The limpid system and neocordex are later additions to this central core.


MacLean also states that the R-Complex plays an important role in the aggressive behavior, territoriality, ritualism and establishment of social hierarchies. Most of our behavior as human beings is ruled by this archaic region of the brain, and as Mr. Sagan himself so eloquently phrases it … "it does no good whatsoever to ignore the reptilian component of human nature, particularly our ritualistic and hierarchical behavior. On the contrary, the model may help us understand what human beings are all about."

Understanding what Sagan and MacLean were saying, it is logical to conclude that those individuals with the strongest reptilian tendencies are the very ones who would rise to the top of all social hierarchies and establish themselves and their descendants as the Ruling Class elite and royalty which to this very day is so pervasive. You probably thought that the ritualistic and hierarchical behavior of the British monarchy was simply a matter of tradition, but it is much more than that. It is a classic example of reptilian influence through the R-Complex. Because of the R-Complex, we are all prone to ritualistic and hierarchical tendencies, but the Ruling Class is obsessed with it.


Best wishes,

Rick

[wpage]

Gators and Reptiles

Hey Rick,
Looks like many of these cold blooded creatures have invaded the very halls you pictured and surrounding landscapes.

[rickoff]

Yes, W, there's no question about it. And by the way, the term "cold-blooded" stems from a reference to the reptilian part of the human brain which is associated with aggressive and unrestrained behavior, such as in "cold-blooded killers" who take whatever it is they want from innocent victims and then leave them to die, feeling no remorse whatsoever. It is also interesting to note that some of the more common sounds that we use, such as the "pssst" sound to gain someone's attention, or the "Shhhhh" sound to demand quiet, mimic reptilian sounds. I'll bet that these sounds are used frequently on Capitol Hill.

Rick

[frederick4life2004]

Hi Rick,many thanks .

{I'm just back home from a 200 mile journey to see my family in the North west of England where there is terrible flooding}

I'm sure you have sussed my biggest problem with Icke is his take on the European Holocaust .I personally think it wrong for him to make comparisons to Imperial Britain and the then British Empire{for sure, absolutely much of that British Empire history is gross entwined with the eras of glossy pomp and ceremony own the world o righteous blue blood rulers and their medicine, but famine and drought are very different to the events in Europe, also Gypsy families were victims,numbers? we don't know }
The most beautiful outcome of all this rotten history, being the forgiveness of people from the heavy handed Empire days and with regard to the Holocaust , the forgiveness by families who endured.
a Polish friend sent me this music clip a while ago.
Many people say this clip is sad, its a truly beautiful remembrance of a young girls inscribing from her Nazi cell wall. A music composer read the inscribing and this is the result, a very moving piece of music, its beautiful.I'm sure those victims treasure the spirit in which we remember them.Let hatred be no answer anywhere.

YouTube - Symphony of Sorrowful song


In my earlier posts, you can see Icke was inspiring a generation with his involvement with the Green Political Party on Environmental issues here in the UK, during the early 80s, then for whatever reason he moved rapidly away{not helped by the Wogan show I guess}
I can't get into Icke's current presentation at all, I have watched and read~it don't figure out to me.For sure I'm all for searching questions and real accountability .

That's interesting about the Bankers in America, in the UK historically interest rates were set by the Chancellor of the Exchequer, in the early 1980s there were four interest rate changes in one day, made by the Chancellor of the Exchequer{Nigel Lawson} he was revered by many.The hardship this move brought about was incredible, many people and families lost their homes, interest rates were 15 percent and plus.A political message rang out,we never had it so good, it was tact less.

A new approach , the Governor of the Bank of England was given the job of setting interest rates, for the saver these his new low interest rates returned little ,so they invest else where, for the economy, it boiled and boiled and boomed , then finance ran out.The system cries out for a balance.
The banks and finance companies can't pay back from whence they brought the money to finance more, now in my view this is a major flaw amongst many.
Its incredible that the Banks/Finance co's appear to have no correct procedure of yearly Audit, mind-blowing in fact, they are bailed out by the Government.The Prime Minister has made no reassurance to the public that the Banks have had a thorough audit, and we gave them Billions or to be politically correct, HMS tax payers did, now some Banks need millions more already.We now have the largest trade deficit since records began, its can only get better now, fingers crossed, the Banks are to pay back when they can.
Who do the Banks/finance companies owe ,where has the cash come from before the bail outs~ that needs addressing. Now if Ickes theory were correct, what Billionaires would invest in a Bank or finance company that operates like this, but from some where some one has, a mystery.
Well its got to be sorted out, we all know , but how.There is some good news about a few the Banks here , there tagged old-fashioned by the media, solid as a rock they are and some are not corporate and are totaly independent.
Fred
Have a great week

[rickoff]

Hi Rick,many thanks .

I'm sure you have sussed my biggest problem with Icke is his take on the European Holocaust. I personally think it wrong for him to make comparisons to Imperial Britain and the then British Empire...... famine and drought are very different to the events in Europe

Hi Fred,

I would certainly agree that the Nazi perpetrated Holocaust was decidedly more outwardly calculating, premeditated, and violent in its nature than the British-India Holocaust, and I think that David Icke would agree. The Nazis selectively rounded up classes of people in their own country who they believed were of inferior bloodlines, and took them to concentration camps to be starved, shot, or gassed. The British were not so heartless as to institute genetic cleansing of their own citizenry, and neither were they intentionally selective when it came to the people of India. No groups in India were intentionally singled out. Rather, the entire nation was subjected to mass starvation. In 1876 there was a large surplus of wheat and rice in British controlled India, but the British Viceroy Lord Lytton created an artificial famine by exporting vast quantities of these food stocks to Britain. As the grains became scarcer in India, naturally it was the very poor who were the first to succumb to death by starvation, followed by those who had not been quite as poor, and so on. Lytton was well aware of this, but continued to export even more grains, which resulted in an increasingly greater degree of starvation and death. In 1877, while doing nothing to reverse the induced famine, Lytton launched a militarized campaign to collect tax arrears from the people of India, and this caused a great many more people, who might otherwise have survived, to fall into poverty and starvation. So although the British never intentionally singled out any group of people to starve or die, this methodical starvation did in fact have the effect of singling out the poor, "lower class" citizens. In the end, a great many more people died in this Holocaust than the number who died at the hands of the Nazis. We may take comfort in knowing that at least these people were not led into public "showers," where they would be gassed to death, or shot dead in mass Nazi style executions. But in the end the people of India were just as dead. And while both starvation death and gassing death horrify and disgust me, I think I would have to say that the relatively short lived horror of being shot or gassed was no doubt a more merciful death than the long suffering of starvation. Consider that many of the animals taken to humane shelters are not adopted by people, and that the shelters cannot afford to feed and care for these animals indefinitely. After a certain established period of time, these animals are removed from the system and placed in a closed chamber where carbon monoxide exhaust gasses from a small engine are piped in, causing sleep and then death. The bodies of the dead animals are then cremated, so the death and disposal methods are strikingly similar to what occurred in the Nazi death camps. I have personally witnessed animals being subjected to this form of death at a humane society shelter, and while I found it to be a very sad experience I am certain that it was more humane than simply shutting off those animals' food supply and allowing them to suffer a death by starvation. The humane shelters would not even think of allowing any animals to meet with such a toturous demise. I know that you have a hard time accepting that the British-India Holocaust could have been anywhere near as repugnant and despicable as the Nazi-European Holocaust, but both happened, and both resulted in the unnecessary and inexcusable deaths of millions of innocent victims. I can't see where Icke is wrong in pointing this out. Some British may feel that since Icke is British it is unpatriotic of him to speak of British atrocities, and still others may feel that it is just too awful to possibly be true, and place the blame on the messenger rather than where it belongs - the perpetrators.

Its incredible that the Banks/Finance co's appear to have no correct procedure of yearly Audit, mind-blowing in fact, they are bailed out by the Government. Who do the Banks/finance companies owe ,where has the cash come from before the bail outs~ that needs addressing. Now if Ickes theory were correct, what Billionaires would invest in a Bank or finance company that operates like this, but from some where some one has, a mystery. Well its got to be sorted out, we all know , but how.There is some good news about a few the Banks here , there tagged old-fashioned by the media, solid as a rock they are and some are not corporate and are totaly independent.

We have many banks here that are on solid footing too, and these are local credit unions that are operated by the members. The commercial banks are the ones with problems. They borrow money from the Federal Reserve at a relatively low interest rate and then loan money to others at a higher interest rate. As Icke points out, these banks are authorized to loan out 17 times the amount of money they actually have on deposit. In other words, money that really doesn't exist. For example, when you buy a $100,000 dollar home and sign your name to a mortgage document, the bank doesn't actually hand you $100,000 to use in paying the seller. It's just a paper transaction. The bank really isn't out anything at all. They then either sell the mortgage to another bank or investment company, or keep it and claim that mortgage as if it were a $100,000 deposit. After all, even though the money is not yet in the bank, it is owed to them by the mortgagee, so the note is considered as good as, or the same as money. That means the bank can then loan out another $1,700,000. Now that's a sweet deal for the banks, and even if many people default on their payments the bank really doesn't lose anything. Still, it means that less money is coming into the bank, and it becomes more difficult to pay the exhorbitant multi million dollar salaries of the CEO's. And compounding this problem is the fact that their amounts of deposit are so low. In hard times, people start withdrawing their deposits, and it doesn't take long for the bank to become insolvent when they can no longer meet their required payments to the Federal Reserve. The Federal Reserve never loses, of course, because the money that they loaned to the commercial banks is simply worthless paper which they have created at almost no cost at all, other than the paper and ink. Now as the smaller and medium size commercial banks are going under, they are selling off all their mortgage assets to larger and wealthier banks. It is the ones left standing (the powerful elite) who then hold all these assets, and they don't care how many people default on their mortgages. In fact, they hope people will default, as they can then seize and sell properties which actually do have value. See how this works?

Best regards to you,

Rick

[elias]

Project Camelot Interview With David Icke: Project Camelot | David Icke

The negativity of Icke's material is undeniable. Icke is touching upon the truth in a negative way. If he believes in a vibrational universe, then he should not attack Mr Obama like that which he is tuning onto the negativity of Obama, but Obama's election has brought a vibrational shift to the world, a vibration of hope (which he denies being a positive vibration). His words and actions are a bit inconsistent. He'd better approached things in a more empowering way.

[wpage]

Long interview

That was a long piece of information...
Interesting but protracted. This bit of revelation from the I man. His never ending story of how the Illuminati control the world and its current condition.
Another buy my book for the answers.

[rickoff]

Hi W,

Yes, that really was quite a long interview, and probably could have been done well in an abbreviated manner. I have enjoyed this, and other Project Camelot interviews that I have seen, though. David does sell a lot of books, and a lot of seats at lecture halls, and of course that's how he makes a living. And doing so puts him in a position where he is able to communicate with huge numbers of people, most of which he could never reach by other means. I think that is a good thing, and a service to mankind. Back when he started all this there were very few messengers attempting to raise public awareness about what was really going on in the world. As he says in the interview, there are large numbers of people who once laughed in disbelief, who are now firm believers concerning the Illuminati agenda. That's because nearly all of the things David said about that agenda, years and years ago, has already come to pass - and the rest can be seen shaping up on the horizon. New World Order, one-world centralized government, one-world currency, a microchip implanted population, one-world military police state under the rule of tyrants, and so on. As David pointed out in the interview, the current agenda of the Illuminati is not about gaining control over our lives, as they already have that. Instead, it is about keeping that control, and they are now pulling out all stops in order to make that happen. Just look around - at ClimateGate, the Wall Street and corporate bailouts, socialized medical "reform," genetically altered crops that do not produce viable seed, engineered pandemics, the Fed running the Treasury, an out of control Congress heaping massive and unpayable debt upon us, and a President who has no regard for states' or US sovereignty, or the Constitution. As they (the Illuminati, Ruling Class, or whatever you want to call them) tighten their grip, and our country drifts further into socialism, many more people will begin to awaken to the reality of what the true agenda really is. And because of that, the Ruling Class agenda will ultimately fail, and those responsible for it will be dethroned. In the meantime, though, as David points out, we may well be in for a decade or more of hard times living under the iron fisted rule of these tyrants, unless enough people are willing to wake up now and stop the agenda. I for one hope that David, and all the other messengers, succeed in that endeavor.

Best regards,

Rick

[Mad Scientist]

Yes David has made some annoying statements and comments over the years. But what is really annoying is that many of them are coming true. For the elite it is all about power and control.

Our EPA has just declared that CO2 is a “poisonous gas”. So everyone please stop breathing out, because all the CO2 that you exhale is poisoning the planet!

If you believe that then maybe I can sell you this bridge that I have for sale or at the every least can I sell you on the Copenhagen treaty and carbon credits.

So to control all these millions and millions of tons CO2 that you recklessly released into the air we are going to tax you in a way that will allow us to control you in virtually all aspects of your life. This needs to be done quickly because we the power hungry elite are concerned about your safety.

[Please ignore the fact that all of these millions of tons of CO2 have had little to no effect on the total amount of CO2 in the air. Which has been holding more or less constant at the gigantic amount of .3 of one percent of the entire atmosphere.
Also ignore that plant life depends on this CO2.]

So trust us. These proposed carbon taxes are for your benefit and will help us save the planet.