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  • #16
    Hammer Cam Pic (lifts its own self up = Push+Pull) a no-waste engine:

    Originally posted by Mad Scientist View Post
    OK that sounds interesting do you have any pictures of it or drawings that you would care to share.
    Yes; => we made a preliminary first draft animation about a month ago. It isn't by any means the finished product but I got my son over here to do it real quick just to show the Principles involved. The weight falls across an extended Cam that then becomes like a fulcrum and axle at the same time, an offset axle.

    On the other side of that cam it lifts itself up. So you have a magnification of power by leverage plus no wasted energy , because what isn't used on the cam side is used on the opposite side. The only thing holding it back would be axle friction, and that can be made to be a very small amount.

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    • #17
      The Six-Spoked Gravity Wheel

      Originally posted by Mad Scientist View Post
      OK that sounds interesting do you have any pictures of it or drawings that you would care to share.
      Right now MS I've been working with a six-spoked wheel configuration using sliding rods in mounted tubes. But the threads on the rods are causing more of a friction than I expected... so I'm getting ready to work the Hammer Cam some more soon.

      I have many varied designs, all good. My health issues get in the way a lot.

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      • #18
        Originally posted by Mad Scientist View Post
        OK that sounds interesting do you have any pictures of it or drawings that you would care to share.
        The first one I gave to my doctor, he gave to his 16 year old. It was a double. I made it with a mirror unit on the other side of the axle then flipped end over end reversed so that the were both impacting the same direction.

        It was sweet. Each side was doing 4 hits for a total of 8 hits per revolution. It would work had I used plastic rods, bolts, nuts and lock washers.

        It was choice steak actually. I didn't take any pictures, wasn't feeling up to it. The next one I plan to build will be three of the Hammer Cam shown above, sitting side-by-side on the axle with a 120 degree offset.

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        • #19
          Looking at your animation I might be wrong but I don’t believe it will turn on its own, irregardless of the type of materials used.




          However here is an interesting design I ran across some time ago that looked promising. The designer went through about three pages of calculations determining the torque produced at different points of rotation.

          The rotating arm is allowed to turn on a center ball bearing. At each end are bearings to accept the shafts from the weighted arms. The shafts go through the bearings and have a gear sprocket to the other side. On the vertical support is another gear sprocket, this one is locked in place and does not turn. A chain connects all the gears together this forces the weighted arms to remain horizontal as the rotating arm turns.

          As can be seen the center of the weight on the right side of the support column is a greater distance from the center bearing then the weight on the left side. So it should turn ---right?

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          • #20
            Originally posted by Mad Scientist View Post
            Looking at your animation I might be wrong but I don’t believe it will turn on its own, irregardless of the type of materials used.




            However here is an interesting design I ran across some time ago that looked promising. The designer went through about three pages of calculations determining the torque produced at different points of rotation.

            The rotating arm is allowed to turn on a center ball bearing. At each end are bearings to accept the shafts from the weighted arms. The shafts go through the bearings and have a gear sprocket to the other side. On the vertical support is another gear sprocket, this one is locked in place and does not turn. A chain connects all the gears together this forces the weighted arms to remain horizontal as the rotating arm turns.

            As can be seen the center of the weight on the right side of the support column is a greater distance from the center bearing then the weight on the left side. So it should turn ---right?
            I've been shown that design before but it wasn't presented as well as you have shown it here. It does look promising because the action is being handed off and repeated. It looks like the Pony Express actually, and we know that worked great.

            I think it might not work tho because for it to work each side would need to be perfectly weighted the same as the other side. My experience with motorcycle chains & sprockets is that they wear and constantly slacken. That really throws perfection into a waste basket fast. This design demands constant perfection to work. Using a chain adds about 50+ variables, a design killer.

            However, I did have an idea once that might give it an edge. As it is now the main axle is static, having no give & take = no mechanism for balancing the slight differences in weight that will be there. The idea from last year was to put float balls on the axle ends so the entire mechanism would be floating in tubs of liquid, water, whatever (something slick added to the fluid would be nice). That might make it achieve a better self-balancing state, having a "motion buffer".

            Flotation would come close to creating the frictionless spinning of Outer Space & vacuum, although hmm, you could use magnetic levitation I suppose and that would be better. But it would also use up any electricity being generated.

            Your intellect is amazing => YouTube - Wallace Shawn in The Princess Bride - the Wager for you have correctly determined the Hammer Cam has a few flaws. I just figured it out a few minutes ago what they are and, I think how to get rid of them. If my brain doesn't melt down I'll build it. I think I'm burning out some brain cells on this junk. I think my solution may just be what Bessler did. They said his made a clunking sound, and wood would do that with my hammer cam design. Right now it makes a metallic clicking sound, same difference.

            You are one sharp fellow.

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            • #21
              Originally posted by CloudSeeder View Post
              Your intellect is amazing => YouTube - Wallace Shawn in The Princess Bride - the Wager for you have correctly determined the Hammer Cam has a few flaws. I just figured it out a few minutes ago what they are and, I think how to get rid of them.

              You are one sharp fellow.
              Actually, the animation of the hammer cam had flaws, then my first build had even other unforeseen flaws. Your analysis then was correct based just on viewing the animation. When we have a working device going it's going to look so simple. Getting there is not simple.

              The animation was intended to be an attention getter, something to introduce the Internet to the idea of harnessing Gravity. All of the ratios were off and required adjusting.

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              • #22
                What this model clearly demonstrates is that it is absolutely essential to build a working model. While this looks good in theory plus his three pages of calculations, still this doesn’t prove anything.
                If you build even a crude model, which obviously the designer didn’t, the first thing you notice is it does not turn!
                Actually it turns out that the two weights are always in perfect balance no matter what the position of the rotating arm is in. This because they are moving around in a perfect circle the center of which is an imaginary point to the right of what would be the assumed to be center point.

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                • #23
                  Originally posted by Mad Scientist View Post
                  What this model clearly demonstrates is that it is absolutely essential to build a working model. While this looks good in theory plus his three pages of calculations, still this doesn’t prove anything.
                  If you build even a crude model, which obviously the designer didn’t, the first thing you notice is it does not turn!
                  Actually it turns out that the two weights are always in perfect balance no matter what the position of the rotating arm is in. This because they are moving around in a perfect circle the center of which is an imaginary point to the right of what would be the assumed to be center point.
                  Yeah, I was thinking bout that after I replied to you... that it might would need another just like it at 180 degrees. I think you might could play around with it and get it working. The left swinging arm could be a cog or two behind the one on the right.

                  But since it has the flaw of using a chain I wouldn't spend any time on it. All those moving chain links represents a large amount of total friction the device has to constantly overcome => the same thing protecheqp's triangle device has to deal with that has been killing his device. He contributes on my other thread => CloudSeeder on Fire.

                  Hammer Cam has a very low amt of friction, only one moving part if the weight is stationary.

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                  • #24
                    Originally posted by CloudSeeder View Post
                    Hammer Cam has a very low amt of friction, only one moving part if the weight is stationary.
                    Two moving parts => 1 the leverage arm, 2 the total device. It should be a working model next week. Ran out of steam today after figuring it out.

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                    • #25
                      Originally posted by CloudSeeder View Post
                      Ran out of steam today after figuring it out.
                      ... which I realize sounds like Classic Bipolar. It's also classic zero thyroid and class 58 year old carrying around 270 pounds. hahahaha.

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                      • #26
                        Hammer Cam Gravity Wheel Solved => May 2 2010:

                        In the event I do not post for a while, perhaps a few weeks, it will be because of having to move on short notice. My monthly disability check appears to be delayed and the apartment people have zero tolerance for not paying on time.

                        I solved the Hammer Cam Gravity Wheel on May 2 2010 so I'm happy to move if it comes to that. I only wanted to do one thing before moving and that was get the wheel designed correctly, and I have that in my hip pocket, with me wherever I go.

                        Many other things have gone right for me in the past month, so if I get the boot it's only an inconvenience. I turned in a two-month Notice to Vacate last night anyway. hehehe Perhaps two months come faster in 2010 .

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                        • #27
                          Originally posted by CloudSeeder View Post
                          In the event I do not post for a while, perhaps a few weeks, it will be because of having to move on short notice. My monthly disability check appears to be delayed and the apartment people have zero tolerance for not paying on time.

                          I solved the Hammer Cam Gravity Wheel on May 2 2010 so I'm happy to move if it comes to that. I only wanted to do one thing before moving and that was get the wheel designed correctly, and I have that in my hip pocket, with me wherever I go.

                          Many other things have gone right for me in the past month, so if I get the boot it's only an inconvenience. I turned in a two-month Notice to Vacate last night anyway. hehehe Perhaps two months come faster in 2010 .
                          Hmm, this is very interesting. I wasn't feeling so great yesterday so I had the Date wrong. I figured out the last piece of the puzzle on May 1st, not May 2... so I actually met the Date I had set. Short of building it. I had left out one key principle that occurred to me months ago when I designed the Scorpion wheel design. Plugged it into the equation May 1.

                          Well, looks like my good ol reliable disability check must've been needed for the stop the crude oil effort. I finished my job here anyway. Time to strike out on a new path.

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                          • #28
                            extra ocean weight -from polar ice melt- presses down on the oil holes => earth core

                            Well, the roll of the dice looks like will soon be I have to move to a smaller apartment so my gravity wheel work will be coming to an end for a while. But I did explain my last "realizations" about how they have to work => weight versus forces of gravity wheels explained this post #523.

                            Not that knowing how to build gravity wheels will have much input to the crises currently ongoing. Once the extra ocean weight -from polar ice melt- presses down on the oil holes they keep drilling in the ocean floor... it looks like ice cold water will come in contact with the earth's deep lava core. The struggle to conquer gravity is a done deal far as I'm concerned. Maybe everything's a done deal.

                            Uhm, one loose string I had was a company named BTG in London, a company I had written in 1996. Well, I came across their air mail reply letter... so I wrote them back, concerning using the MRI technology to map a patient's fat and then use criss-crossed frequencies aimed to intersect at the fat cells. I haven't hear back, but if they had paid me a small royalty I could've been building my zero pollution engines. Well, que sera then. It's been real.

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