U.S. on Brink of Catastrophic Collapse

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Just like to say before I post this link, I don't write the metadata the link name comes from.

It's the Inequality, Stupid | Mother Jones
aka Eleven charts that explain everything that's wrong with America.

It's not your Government. It's not Obama. It's not even the commies. It's the thieves robbing you blind and rather brilliantly manipulating your fears to cover their tracks and actions. All you need to do to see through it is look through it. The evidence has always been there.

[shawn]

“I have never yet had anyone who could, through the use of logic and reason, justify the Federal Government borrowing the use of its own money…..
I believe the time will come when people will demand that this be changed.
I believe the time will come in this country when they will actually blame you and me and everyone else connected with the Congress for sitting idly by and permitting such an idiotic system to continue.”
~Wright Patman (Dem. congressman 1928-1976; Chairman, committee on banking and currency 1963-1975)
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DEBT:
“That is what our money system is. If there were no debts in our money system, there wouldn’t be any money.”
Marriner S. Eccles, Chairman and Governor of the Federal Reserve Board
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All debts paid off leaves society with no money.

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“The inability of the Colonists to get power to issue their own money permanently out of the hands of George III and the international bankers was the PRIME reason for the revolutionary war.”
~Benjamin Franklin
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[Mad Scientist]

The FED practices what is known as "fractional banking" basically it gives them the ability to create money essentially out of thin air. This allows them to loan out more money then they have on deposit. Naturally when they lend out this nonexistent money they will charge interest for that loan and of course real assets will be required as collateral.
What makes this system look good is all this easy money enables the economy to expand rapidly. But when they shut off the flow of this money, “to control inflation”, and start calling in their loans the resulting foreclosures means that the real tangible wealth created by the borrowers during the boom is then transferred into the hands of a few elite bankers.
Twice in our history private central banks have been tried and failed. They were rejected when it became apparent that they were nothing more then a legalized form of extortion.


It is time to reject the FED.

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^what he said.


A CEO, a Tea Partier, & a Teamster sit down together with 12 cookies. CEO grabs 11, then tells Tea Partier "That Commie Teamster wants part of your cookie."


And that, my friends, is how less than 1% of the people can get away with ripping off everyone else. By dividing the victims against each other.

[chascaB]

The Obama administration is a new administration that offers and doing great changes in the government. It has relented on the nationwide clamp down on deepwater gas drilling. An offshore drilling permit was recently issued to Noble Energy. Here is the proof: Permit issued for deepwater drilling as oil prices start climbing. The federal government is relenting after months of suspended deepwater drilling as a result of BP oil leak and Deepwater Horizon explosion. The choice was made not a second too late. Oil costs and gasoline costs have been especially volatile recently due to unrest in the Middle East. The chaos in Middle East gives us great suffer. Lets pray and hope that the administration can manage to handle the situation for the USA and UN.

[rickoff]

The Obama administration is a new administration that offers and doing great changes in the government.

I think you left someting out, after the word "offers," in that statement. Offers what? And exactly what have the "great changes in the government" been? Perhaps you live in a different country, and weren't aware of the 2010 elections in November, but the thorough trouncing that Democrats received was the voice of the people overwhelmingly rejecting and renouncing the Obama administration's progressive socialist agenda, and calling for a return to fiscal responsibility and constitutional principles. And if the establishment Republicans don't wake up and start doing what is expected of them then they will also be looking for new jobs after the 2012 elections.

Oil costs and gasoline costs have been especially volatile recently due to unrest in the Middle East. The chaos in Middle East gives us great suffer. Lets pray and hope that the administration can manage to handle the situation for the USA and UN.

Yes, gasoline prices have been going up double digits in recent weeks. A month ago heating oil was $3 a gallon, and today is $3.50. And yes, there is unrest in the Middle East but it has virtually nothing to do with rising fuel prices here. The US has vast untapped oil reserves - more than the rest of the world's nations combined, and has for many decades also had the resources and technology to develop all the renewable energy potential that we could ever need, in the form of wind, solar, hydro, tidal, hydrogen, and geothermal applications. Do you think it is just a quirk of fate that has shelved these self sustaining techologies all these years and has brought us to to the situation we are now in? Hoping and praying that the administration can somehow make things better is false hope. In actuality, the situation is going exactly as the Obama administration had planned. The plan is to throw us into a hyperinflationary state the likes of which has never been experienced here in the USA, to bankrupt the nation, destroy the US dollar, and at the same time create massive wealth opportunities for the criminal elite banksters. So far everything is moving ahead as planned, so why in the world would the Obama administration want to change things? The administration totally ignores the will of the people and the rule of law, and violates the US Constitution at every turn.

[Aaron]

Obama makes $75k/monthly on oil royalties

And it seems Obama makes about $75,000 per month on oil royalties.

Does anyone know the truth to this or how to find out? Clinton, McCain,
Palin, etc... all do, possibly.

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The administration totally ignores the will of the people and the rule of law, and violates the US Constitution at every turn.

But, the alternative is no better. In fact, it's uglier than socialism. It's nepotism, cronyism and poverty for the masses. Seriously, asking people to choose between republican or democrat government is like asking them to decide between a slow, painful death or a painful, slow death. Neither option is particularly attractive. But what choice are we given? well, the third option is, vote for more independents. Shun both the two parties who hijacked democracy, don't let their feet hit the floor when you throw them out at the ballot box.

As much as the US is conditioned to violently reject this notion, the only way to return the US to some semblence of sanity, equity and liberty is for the electorate, the people, to demand their government make itself accountable to international law. The problem with the US is those in charge (no matter which side of the political machine they come from,) are answerable to nobody. There's no law above them. They behave in a way that causes common, decent folk all over the world to feel repulsion and anger towards THEM, then they say "that anger is directed at YOU, by people who hate your freedom." WHAT A CROCK. Nobody in any civilised nation on the planet would want to live in a police state gone mad with fear and paranoia. None of us envy people like Bradley Manning HIS freedom, because he has none. Indeed it seems very obvious the only way to be "free" in America these days is to sell out your freedoms, and be silent when you see the freedoms of others being abused. No surprise, but people from other countries don't envy that kind of freedom, we pity it. We don't hate America, we're rooting for you to take back your country and reclaim your mantel as leaders of the FREE world.

It's a sad fact, but the UN which is based in New York has more legal power to protect the fundamental human rights of people in Russia and Libya than it does to protect those same rights of citizens in the US. Until the US ratifies the UDHR and submits itself to the rule of international law, it'll continue to fall apart at the seems because of the fact no US government has any power above it, including the one power that should always be above it, the power of the people who elected it.


United States and the International Criminal Court — Global Issues

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There Are No Words To Describe The Following Part II - Home - The Daily Bail

The only enemy the US really needs to worry about right now is the Fed.

[Mad Scientist]

I've seen that video before. It is a gem! I don't know nothing, I haven't seen anything, nor have I tried to find out anything, I'm just trying to do my job the best I can.

With brain dead idiots like this is it any wonder that the elite have free reign over our government?

I wonder how many people are still expecting that the FED will magically fix the economy?

[rickoff]

Originally Posted by rickoff: The administration totally ignores the will of the people and the rule of law, and violates the US Constitution at every turn.

But, the alternative is no better. In fact, it's uglier than socialism. It's nepotism, cronyism and poverty for the masses.

What alternative are you talking about? That's what we have now!

Seriously, asking people to choose between republican or democrat government is like asking them to decide between a slow, painful death or a painful, slow death. Neither option is particularly attractive. But what choice are we given? well, the third option is, vote for more independents. Shun both the two parties who hijacked democracy, don't let their feet hit the floor when you throw them out at the ballot box.

I'm not advising anyone to choose Democrat or Republican, and in fact have been advising that we need to kick all the career politician bums out of the House and Senate. I have always been an independent voter, but voting for Independents in Presidential elections has always had very little chance of success. That's why I don't necessarily advise voting for an independent in 2012. Instead, I will be working to get a lot more Tea Party candidates elected to Congress, and voting for the strongest Tea Party backed, or Tea Party friendly, Presidential candidate. You see, there is a better option which you did not mention, and that is to utilize fiscally responsible, freedom loving, Constitution upholding patriotic candidates to take over the Republican party. In the November 2010 elections, we made a great start of doing exactly that, and will follow up strongly in 2012.

the only way to return the US to some semblence of sanity, equity and liberty is for the electorate, the people, to demand their government make itself accountable to international law. The problem with the US is those in charge (no matter which side of the political machine they come from,) are answerable to nobody. There's no law above them. They behave in a way that causes common, decent folk all over the world to feel repulsion and anger towards THEM, then they say "that anger is directed at YOU, by people who hate your freedom." WHAT A CROCK. Nobody in any civilised nation on the planet would want to live in a police state gone mad with fear and paranoia. .... We don't hate America, we're rooting for you to take back your country and reclaim your mantel as leaders of the FREE world.

Dead wrong. The last thing that any patriotic and freedom loving American would want to see happen is to have our nation under control of international laws established by the UN. In fact we'd like to see the UN kicked out and told to go to hell. The UN is arguably the most corrupt organization ever established on the face of this earth, and was established for the benefit of the criminal elite - not the people of the world. The agenda of the UN is a one-world centralized government having complete power over all facets of our lives. So be careful what you wish for. And while the establishment politicians would like to think they are above the law, and answerable to no one, it is not true. The US Constitution is the supreme law of the US, and We The People are the government. The politicians are only elected to represent us, and those who do a poor job of it will be thrown out in 2012. The American people are waking up in large numbers, and the politicians now realize this and are fearful. That's why the criminal elite are ramping up their efforts to bring about massive inflation and destroy the dollar while transferring the wealth of millions of Americans into the pockets of the private central bankers. This is their end game, but they know that patriotic Americans won't go down without a fight. That's why the Obama administration is working feverishly to pass a UN treaty that would first require registration of all guns held by American citizens. The next step, of course, would then be to locate all the registered gun owners and confiscate their weapons. All of that is totally unconstitutional. The framers of the Constitution were wise enough to state that the right of the people to bear arms shall not be infringed upon, and you can bet that a huge number of Americans will stand up against any who try to infringe upon that right. The reason why Americans have this right is not for the purpose of hunting and sport shooting - it is to defend ourselves against takeover by hostile forces and tyrannical government regimes.

[Kirk]

YouTube - Lindsey Williams: MI6 Funded Muslim Brotherhood and Their "Day of Rage" Coming! 1/2

supposedly it hits the fan March 11

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Originally Posted by rickoff: The administration totally ignores the will of the people and the rule of law, and violates the US Constitution at every turn.



What alternative are you talking about? That's what we have now!



I'm not advising anyone to choose Democrat or Republican, and in fact have been advising that we need to kick all the career politician bums out of the House and Senate. I have always been an independent voter, but voting for Independents in Presidential elections has always had very little chance of success. That's why I don't necessarily advise voting for an independent in 2012. Instead, I will be working to get a lot more Tea Party candidates elected to Congress, and voting for the strongest Tea Party backed, or Tea Party friendly, Presidential candidate. You see, there is a better option which you did not mention, and that is to utilize fiscally responsible, freedom loving, Constitution upholding patriotic candidates to take over the Republican party. In the November 2010 elections, we made a great start of doing exactly that, and will follow up strongly in 2012.



Dead wrong. The last thing that any patriotic and freedom loving American would want to see happen is to have our nation under control of international laws established by the UN. In fact we'd like to see the UN kicked out and told to go to hell. The UN is arguably the most corrupt organization ever established on the face of this earth, and was established for the benefit of the criminal elite - not the people of the world. The agenda of the UN is a one-world centralized government having complete power over all facets of our lives. So be careful what you wish for. And while the establishment politicians would like to think they are above the law, and answerable to no one, it is not true. The US Constitution is the supreme law of the US, and We The People are the government. The politicians are only elected to represent us, and those who do a poor job of it will be thrown out in 2012. The American people are waking up in large numbers, and the politicians now realize this and are fearful. That's why the criminal elite are ramping up their efforts to bring about massive inflation and destroy the dollar while transferring the wealth of millions of Americans into the pockets of the private central bankers. This is their end game, but they know that patriotic Americans won't go down without a fight. That's why the Obama administration is working feverishly to pass a UN treaty that would first require registration of all guns held by American citizens. The next step, of course, would then be to locate all the registered gun owners and confiscate their weapons. All of that is totally unconstitutional. The framers of the Constitution were wise enough to state that the right of the people to bear arms shall not be infringed upon, and you can bet that a huge number of Americans will stand up against any who try to infringe upon that right. The reason why Americans have this right is not for the purpose of hunting and sport shooting - it is to defend ourselves against takeover by hostile forces and tyrannical government regimes.

longwinded rants about the evils of the UN, aside, lets examine your critical point. You venture the opinion the people of the US are the government, and require no oversight. How's that working out currently? Do you think 'you the people' are doing a god job of keeping your country free of corruption, pollution> How about with keeping a lid on wars of aggression abroad? Do you think you're doing a peechy keen job of holding up the civil rights and human rights of everyone in the US? Do you? Because here's the thing, the other 5.4 billion people on the planet don't think you are. There are more of us then there are of you, by the way. Just throwing that out there.

here's my guess, you'll say "yeah we're doing great, as soon as we get Obummer out of office." what, to be replaced with Sarah Palin? I wouldn't trust anyone from the right wing of US politics to run a bath without stealing the water for their own profit, let alone run a country. Or the left for that matter, because they serve the same corporate masters. And the tea party? If you think they're not 100% in teh pocket of corporate USA worse than either of the two old parties, well, then their spin sure worked a treat on you. Tea party is the biggest protect the rich racket going. They've even started spreading seed money here and started an Australian tea party pushing the same un-fettered captilist rape of everything productive under the guise of making things easy on the little guy. you buy that? I don't. Maybe I'm just better read, a more astute judge of character and have a bigger heart.

How about the US majority of people's stance on Bradley Manning? If that's an indication of how "We the People" in the US feel about war crime (ie, lock up the guy who reports it and call him a traitor,) then no, the world CANNOT and WILL NOT trust the American people to decide right from wrong in matters of international law. Here's the thing. We don't care how patriotic you think it is to cover up war crimes. We want the war criminals rotting in a brig, not the guys who report them.

Let me guess, you neither know nor care what crimes the ICC has jurisdiction over. Right? Well, for the sake of more flexible minds who'll read this, they are genocide, crimes against humanity, war crimes, and the crime of aggression against the population. They are the only crimes under ICC jurisdiction. There's no provision under International law to have any say in the day to day running of any country. You think otherwise, obviously, probably because the people who control the media and the government obviously don't like the idea of their crimes being tried. But no, international courts are for dealing with soldiers who break the universal rules of engagement and the officers who order them to do so, and for rulers who mistreat their people, and that's all they have jurisdiction over.

So, even if you're unaware of the facts as to what you're rejecting, what you're telling me is the US should be free to commit genocide. The US should be free to commit war crimes. The US should have free reign to abuse it's own citizens, without there being any consequences ever, except maybe getting voted out of office. But the army guys can commit war crimes with impunity. That's what you're advocating by thumbing your nose at the ICC. And you're saying only the US people, who either have no control over their government or no human decency are the only people who should be able to punish a crime of genocide by the US. Really?

Ok, let's work with that. Let's play out a scenario. Us invades a country and starts spending it's war dollars blowing the utter crap out of civilians. let s say, in Iraq. people of IRAQ, having no recourse under international law to stop the egregious assault on their soil fight back. With roadside bombs, suicide attacks and sabotage. America responds by stepping up military action, killing more people to "win the war." Orphaned son of Iraqi national comes to US on holidays, buys 10 tones of fertiliser, five barrels of diesel and a truck... should I go on?

What you're advocating is giving the US military and government free reign to go ahead and commit the next holocaust if it so pleases, and for afterwards, to thumb it's nose at the world? Dude, that's not going to play. The world won't let it. And nobody is going to listen when you start crying about how the world hates your freedom and that's why they're attacking you, because people like me will be telling the world why the US is only getting what it deserves. take away all lawful, peaceful means of agrieved parties attaining recourse, and all you leave them with are unlawful, violent ones. Just be aware, that's what you're choosing. So next 9/11, don't cry victim, just mutter "paybacks are a *****," and be aware that's teh consequnces of acting like you can do whatever you want to whoever you want. At some point, someone will do it back to you threefold. Can't buck that rule, it's just how some people tick.

The ICC, by the way, is based on Norway, and has nothing to do with the UN, which is based in New York. Opposite sides of the world. Different charters entirely. One is an evil octopus operated out of the USA which is trying to establish world government and export American corporatocracy, the other tries war crimes. Just in case you had the two confused, the ICC is the one that tries warcrimes.

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from twitter

"Signs and flags on sticks" will no longer be allowed at the Madison Capitol. Easels, Crockpots, Vuvuzelas And Balloons Banned From WI Capitol | TPMDC IS THIS STILL AMERICA? #wiunion

You can keep the poor, tired and hungry you've so graciously taken in, we love that about you guys. You can keep your constitution, a living document that is the inspiration of a free world, and provides you with the foundation of the most vital and vibrant democratic system on the planet. We just want to put your war criminals on trial. Tell me with a straight face how it would hurt the fight to win back America.

[rickoff]

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longwinded rants about the evils of the UN, aside, lets examine your critical point. You venture the opinion the people of the US are the government, and require no oversight.

That 'We The People' are the government of the USA is not an opinion. The powers of the federal government are actually few, and are limited to those not reserved by the states according to the Constitution. In other words, the federal government derives its powers from the states, and the states derive their powers from the people who live in those states. So, ultimately it is the will of the people that truly governs. This is the form of government that our Founding Fathers established for us in the Declaration of Independence, the US Constitution, and the Bill Of Rights, and these documents provided us with everything we needed to do things right. As to oversight, it is the people's job to maintain oversight of their elected representatives to ensure they are held accountable if they participate in enacting immoral or unconstitutional legislation. Giving free rein to an external, foreign power, to determine what is proper or acceptable for America is simply intolerable, because it could (and doubtlessly would) eventually be used by tyrants to dominate us.

How's that working out currently? Do you think 'you the people' are doing a god job of keeping your country free of corruption, pollution> How about with keeping a lid on wars of aggression abroad? Do you think you're doing a peechy keen job of holding up the civil rights and human rights of everyone in the US? Do you? Because here's the thing, the other 5.4 billion people on the planet don't think you are. There are more of us then there are of you, by the way. Just throwing that out there.

First of all, what country are you from? And do you feel that your own form of government is better than the one established by America's Founding Fathers? We aren't pretending to be "doing a god job." We'll leave that up to God. I would be the first to admit that the American people, especially during this and the previous 2 generations, have done a very poor job at government oversight. In the meantime, though, the criminal elite and mass media have done a superb job of indoctrinating and influencing the public in belief systems that are contrary to our best interests. People feel forced to accept stances that pit Republican against Democrat, management against labor, one religion against another, and one ethnic group against another, in a never-ending cycle that keeps the people busy thinking about everything except what truly matters. If things aren't right, the American people have the power to make them right, and that is what they need to realize. We have the power at the ballot box to throw out House representatives every two years, and Senate representatives every six years, but this power has seldom been used properly. We had the power in 2010 to throw out all 235 members of the House of Representatives, and 1/3 of the 100 Senators, and this would have been the best thing that could have happened. I worked towards that goal, and was disappointed, but thankful that we were able to at least get a foot in the door, so to speak, and unseat 70 or so establishment politicians. We were successful in that the people sent a loud and clear message to Congress to start getting it right or start looking for a new job in 2012. So you see, the American people really are waking up in large numbers and beginning to realize what needs to be done.

here's my guess, you'll say "yeah we're doing great, as soon as we get Obummer out of office." what, to be replaced with Sarah Palin?

Your guess is entirely wrong, and you shouldn't presume to know how I think, or what makes me tick. While it certainly is a fact that I am all for removing Barry Soetoro/Obama, who is ineligible under the Constitution to be sitting as President, I do not promote Sarah Palin as the replacement candidate of my choice. She has obviously been spoon fed to the public by the powerful elite, just as Obama was. My first choice would be Ron Paul, who would work diligently to end the Federal Reserve, which even you seem to realize is an evil organization bent on the destruction of America.

And the tea party? If you think they're not 100% in teh pocket of corporate USA worse than either of the two old parties, well, then their spin sure worked a treat on you. Tea party is the biggest protect the rich racket going. They've even started spreading seed money here and started an Australian tea party pushing the same un-fettered captilist rape of everything productive under the guise of making things easy on the little guy. you buy that? I don't. Maybe I'm just better read, a more astute judge of character and have a bigger heart.

Actually, Ron Paul's Campaign For America is what gave birth to the Tea Party. Watch this 2007 video of Ron Paul to understand what the Tea Party is really all about. The Tea Party is not an official or registered political party. Instead, it is a true party of the people. It has no official leaders. No one in the movement is more important than anyone else - all are on equal footing, and come from all walks of life. In its essence, the Tea Party is simply people coming together to demand a return to limited government, Constitutional principles, and fiscally responsible policies. It is a demand for reduced taxes, repeal of the hideous and misnamed "Patriot Act," an end to undeclared wars and military interventions, and abolishment of the IRS and Federal Reserve. Your opinions of the Tea Party are most likely based upon false negative stories promoted by the mass media, as that is about all you have access to while living in a country other than the US. I have been to actual Tea Party events, and can assure you that every one of the people I met there was genuinely concerned with the best interests of America, and the ideals that our country was founded upon. Don't be fooled into thinking that every group that latches onto, and uses the name Tea Party, is one and the same. The Democrats were quick to present false Tea Party candidates in an attempt to confuse voters, and establishment Republicans have been rebuked for attempting to use the Tea Party name falsely and to their advantage. In truth, the Tea Party has set out to take over the Republican Party and boot out all the establishment Republicans, and that's a good thing. The establishment Republicans will aggressively attempt to foist their (actually the criminal elite's) handpicked candidates upon the Tea Party for the 2012 elections, but don't assume that the people of the true Tea Party movement are mindless morons who are going to be fooled by them.

How about the US majority of people's stance on Bradley Manning? If that's an indication of how "We the People" in the US feel about war crime (ie, lock up the guy who reports it and call him a traitor,) then no, the world CANNOT and WILL NOT trust the American people to decide right from wrong in matters of international law. Here's the thing. We don't care how patriotic you think it is to cover up war crimes. We want the war criminals rotting in a brig, not the guys who report them.

What makes you think you know what the majority of Americans think regarding Bradley Manning or Wiki Leaks? Is it because of something you saw on the lamestream media evening news? Sure, there are some dummies who will buy into the official rhetoric that Bradley Manning is a traitor, but everyone I know regards him as a true patriot for exposing the criminal elite's dirty laundry, and regard Julian Assange as courageous for publicly airing, via the Internet, what Manning exposed. We are also very outspoken against the military court martial of Colonel Terry Lakin, whose only "offense" was to question the Constitutionality of Barry Soetoro/Obama's order to deploy him to Afghanistan, based upon Obama's unproven (and refusal to prove) eligibility to be seated as President and Commander In Chief of armed forces. You make a big mistake when you buy into "official" or lamestream media reports as to what the American public believes. If you want to know what we think, just ask us.

Rick