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  • #31
    I'm ashamed to be a human being sometimes. After the so called pro mubarak protesters (imo, agitators flown in from Israel to try to divide popular support for the army by causing mayhem and doing murder,) arrived a peaceful protest turned into a bloody, murderous massacre. Has the news reported over 1,000 people have been killed by pro mubarak forces? No. Has the news reported the people of egypt have the complete and undebatable right to self determination? No. Every drop of blood spilled in Egypt is on teh hands of teh international community of every democratic nation on the planet for our abject failure to voice our immediate, unilateral and unconditional support for the people of Egypt's will to thro2 that disgusting worm of a murdering brute mubarak out of the country.

    I abhor violence, however I must conceed there is very little wrong in Egypt today that several assainations would not immediately fix. Mubarak and Suliman being prime cantidates, the rest mostly high ranking police.
    “When fascism comes to America, it will come wrapped in the flag and waving a cross.”

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    • #32
      alternatives to the internet

      Heads up folks ...
      How to Maintain Internet Access Even If Your Government Turns It Off
      Text from above link follows:
      This is a great companion article to the brief article I posted yesterday about the expected increasing growing civil unrest and violence worldwide that will be the fallout from Central Banks' highly inflationary fiat currency devaluation schemes. If mass civil unrest strikes a country, a government may respond by banning internet access and severely restricting information flow. To address this concern, Patrick Miller & David Daw just published an article to let you know how you can maintain your freedom of information even when your government tries to ban this right.

      I've reprinted some of the most pertinent excerpts from Get Internet Access When Your Government Shuts it Down, by Patrick Miller & David Daw below. I figured that this information will probably be useful to someone living in a country where the next revolution is brewing.

      "Even if you've managed to find an Internet connection for yourself, it won't be that helpful in reaching out to your fellow locals if they can't get online to find you. If you're trying to coordinate a group of people in your area and can't rely on an Internet connection, cell phones, or SMS, your best bet could be a wireless mesh network of sorts--essentially, a distributed network of wireless networking devices that can all find each other and communicate with each other. Even if none of those devices have a working Internet connection, they can still find each other, which, if your network covers the city you're in, might be all you need. At the moment, wireless mesh networking isn't really anywhere close to market-ready, though we have seen an implementation of the 802.11s draft standard, which extends the 802.11 Wi-Fi standard to include wireless mesh networking, in the One Laptop Per Child (OLPC) XO laptop."

      "However, a prepared guerrilla networker with a handful of PCs could make good use of Daihinia ($25, 30-day free trial), an app that piggybacks on your Wi-Fi adapter driver to turn your normal ad-hoc Wi-Fi network into a multihop ad-hoc network (disclaimer: we haven't tried this ourselves yet), meaning that instead of requiring each device on the network to be within range of the original access point, you simply need to be within range of a device on the network that has Daihinia installed, effectively allowing you to add a wireless mesh layer to your ad-hoc network. Advanced freedom fighters can set up a portal Web page on their network that explains the way the setup works, with Daihinia instructions and a local download link so they can spread the network even further. Lastly, just add a Bonjour-compatible chat client like Pidgin or iChat, and you'll be able to talk to your neighbors across the city without needing an Internet connection."

      "[Another alternative is] FidoNet--a distributed networking system for BBSes that was popular in the 1980s. FidoNet is limited to sending only simple text messages, and it's slow, but it has two virtues: Users connect asynchronously, so the network traffic is harder to track, and any user can act as the server, which means that even if the government shuts down one number in the network, another one can quickly pop up to take its place."

      "You could also take inspiration from groups that are working to create an ad-hoc communications network into and out of Egypt using Ham Radio, since the signals are rarely tracked and extremely hard to shut down or block. Most of these efforts are still getting off the ground, but hackers are already cobbling together ways to make it a viable form of communication into and out of the country. Given enough time and preparation, your ham radio networks could even be adapted into your own ad-hoc network using Packet Radio, a radio communications protocol that you can use to create simple long-distance wireless networks to transfer text and other messages between computers. Packet Radio is rather slow and not particularly popular (don't try to stream any videos with this, now), but it's exactly the kind of networking device that would fly under the radar."

      "In response to the crisis in Egypt, nerds everywhere have risen to call for new and exciting tools for use in the next government-mandated shutdown. Bre Pettis, founder of the hackerspace NYC Resistor and creator of the Makerbot -- Apps for the Appocalypse," including a quick and easy way to set up chats on a local network so you can talk with your friends and neighbors in an emergency even without access to the Internet. If his comments are any indication, Appocalypse apps may be headed your way soon. Tons of cool tech are also just waiting to be retrofitted for these purposes. David Dart's Pirate Box is a one-step local network in a box originally conceived for file sharing and local P2P purposes, but it wouldn't take much work to adapt the Pirate Box as a local networking tool able to communicate with other pirate boxes to form a compact, mobile set of local networks in the event of an Internet shutdown."
      NYC Resistor » Electronics, Hacking, Classes, and Workspace.
      p2pfoundation.net/Mesh_Networks
      Mesh networking - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia
      Remember to be kind to your mind ...
      Tesla quoting Buddha: "Ignorance is the greatest evil in the world."

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      • #33
        Originally posted by noises View Post
        I'm ashamed to be a human being sometimes. After the so called pro mubarak protesters (imo, agitators flown in from Israel to try to divide popular support for the army by causing mayhem and doing murder,) arrived a peaceful protest turned into a bloody, murderous massacre. Has the news reported over 1,000 people have been killed by pro mubarak forces? No. Has the news reported the people of egypt have the complete and undebatable right to self determination? No. Every drop of blood spilled in Egypt is on teh hands of teh international community of every democratic nation on the planet for our abject failure to voice our immediate, unilateral and unconditional support for the people of Egypt's will to thro2 that disgusting worm of a murdering brute mubarak out of the country.

        I abhor violence, however I must conceed there is very little wrong in Egypt today that several assainations would not immediately fix. Mubarak and Suliman being prime cantidates, the rest mostly high ranking police.
        Here Here!!

        I have a horrible sinking feeling that the world-ruling elite have been successful in crushing this revolution.

        That day when they sent rent-a-mob in was like a scene from the last days. Maybe more than 'like' a scene. But those incredible Egyptian anti-tyrant protestors, shook off the shock of being attacked and seeing their brothers and sisters murdered, and beat back the forces of evil.

        They are still there, defiant.

        But, since violence backfired on them, the strategy of the NWO appears to be working. Attrition. Today we see people going back to work and the Muslim Brotherhood is meeting with Mubarak.

        The US are now not even pretending that they are on the people's side. Some constipated US politician - Frank Wisner - has been wheeled out to say that Mubarak must not go until a transition has taken place.

        An Al Jazeera headline reads "The government are trying to create a sense of normality."

        The ruling elite seems to be winning the battle of minds. I hope I am wrong.
        I know that you are part of me and I am part of you because we are all aspects of the same infinite consciousness that we call God and Creation.
        David Icke

        My website PATHS-Life4Living How PATHS Works

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        • #34
          Thank god for that. I was wrong. The spirit is stronger than ever. What incredible people. An example to all those enslaved of the ruling elite. That's around 99% of the human race.

          A headline on Press TV says that US ships and troops are on their way to Egypt.

          Their zionist masters must be seriously worried.
          I know that you are part of me and I am part of you because we are all aspects of the same infinite consciousness that we call God and Creation.
          David Icke

          My website PATHS-Life4Living How PATHS Works

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          • #35
            Muslims return favor, join hands with Christian protesters for Mass in Cairo's Tahrir Square

            Where are the Jewish Egyptians in all this? (Probably teargassing civilians.)
            “When fascism comes to America, it will come wrapped in the flag and waving a cross.”

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            • #36
              WikiLeaks: Israel's secret hotline to the man tipped to replace Mubarak - Telegraph

              Why Suliman is the wrong man for Egypt. (hint he's a puppet of the jewish and American financial interests in Egypt, not a true leader of the Egyptian people, just like Mubarak.) USA and Israel are going to have to do one of two things. Murder (or stand by and watch while someone else murders,) every Egyptian alive today who wants freedom, or butt out and let the country choose it's own leader.

              I'm really, really hoping they butt out, but with shiploads of marines on their way to Egypt now (allegedly to evacuate american citizens,) and Israel's track record of not allowing self determination in countries around them, maybe hope isn't enough.
              Special Ops Marines Are Being Deployed to Egypt | UNCOVERAGE.net

              Since when does anyone send in Spec Ops to evacuate people? Their usual role (and textbook application,) is interdiction, sabotage and insurgency to open the way for regular forces.
              Last edited by noises; 02-08-2011, 02:47 AM.
              “When fascism comes to America, it will come wrapped in the flag and waving a cross.”

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              • #37
                Thanks for the links on meshing and pirate nets, Vortex. An interesting read for anyone interested in self sufficiency in the 21st century. Just look at how vital the capacity to "smuggle" data out of Egypt's internet blackout became to simply telling the world something was happening in there. There's more to all this computing and internet stuff than simply turning it on and making it go. It bodes people well to know enough to be able to circumvent measures to shut them up or shut them out. The term "the information age" just got real.
                Last edited by noises; 02-08-2011, 02:41 AM.
                “When fascism comes to America, it will come wrapped in the flag and waving a cross.”

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                • #38
                  Seems so long ago... bizzare to think it's less than a month, it feels like a lifetime.

                  For many, it has been.

                  What I'm hearing and seeing out of Libya is wholesale genocide. People have died. More people will die. Why? because they refuse to be slaves to corruption any longer. They're willing to go into the streets and die on their feet rather than live on their knees. But in a perfect world, we'd all live on our feet rather than die on our knees.

                  I just wanted to share this. Remember Khaled Said, the young man who was beaten to death by Egyptian police, sparking off the revolution? His name, literally translated, means "Everlasting Happiness."


                  “When fascism comes to America, it will come wrapped in the flag and waving a cross.”

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