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  • Cesium does not decay in Chernobyl as fast as predicted

    Chernobyl Exclusion Zone Radioactive Longer Than Expected

    SAN FRANCISCO Chernobyl, the worst nuclear accident in history, created an inadvertent laboratory to study the impacts of radiation and more than twenty years later, the site still holds surprises.

    Re inhabiting the large exclusion zone around the accident site may have to wait longer than expected. Radioactive cesium isnt disappearing from the environment as quickly as predicted, according to new research presented here Monday at the meeting of the American Geophysical Union. Cesium 137′s half-life the time it takes for half of a given amount of material to decay is 30 years. In addition to that, cesium-137s total ecological half-life the time for half the cesium to disappear from the local environment through processes such as migration, weathering, and removal by organisms is also typically 30 years or less, but the amount of cesium in soil near Chernobyl isnt decreasing nearly that fast. And scientists dont know why.

    It stands to reason that at some point the Ukrainian government would like to be able to use that land again, but the scientists have calculated that what they call cesiums ecological half-life the time for half the cesium to disappear from the local environment is between 180 and 320 years.

    Normally youd say that every 30 years, its half as bad as it was. But its not, said Tim Jannik, nuclear scientist at Savannah River National Laboratory and a collaborator on the work. Its going to be longer before they repopulate the area.
    In 1986, after the Chernobyl accident, a series of test sites was established along paths that scientists expected the fallout to take. Soil samples were taken at different depths to gauge how the radioactive isotopes of strontium, cesium and plutonium migrated in the ground. Theyve been taking these measurements for more than 20 years, providing a unique experiment in the long-term environmental repercussions of a near worst-case nuclear accident.

    In some ways, Chernobyl is easier to understand than DOE sites like Hanford, which have been contaminated by long-term processes. With Chernobyl, said Boris Faybishenko, a nuclear remediation expert at Lawrence Berkeley National Laboratory, we have a definite date at which the contamination began and a series of measurements carried out from that time to today.

    I have been involved in Chernobyl studies for many years and this particular study could be of great importance to many [Department of Energy] researchers, said Faybishenko.

    The results of this study came as a surprise. Scientists expected the ecological half-lives of radioactive isotopes to be shorter than their physical half-life as natural dispersion helped reduce the amount of material in any given soil sample. For strontium, that idea has held up. But for cesium the the opposite appears to be true.

    The physical properties of cesium havent changed, so scientists think there must be an environmental explanation. It could be that new cesium is blowing over the soil sites from closer to the Chernobyl site. Or perhaps cesium is migrating up through the soil from deeper in the ground. Jannik hopes more research will uncover the truth.

    There are a lot of unknowns that are probably causing this phenomenon, he said.

    Beyond the societal impacts of the study, the work also emphasizes the uncertainties associated with radioactive contamination. Thankfully, Chernobyl-scale accidents have been rare, but that also means there is a paucity of places to study how radioactive contamination really behaves in the wild.

    The data from Chernobyl can be used for validating models, said Faybishenko. This is the most value that we can gain from it.

    Ishihara Tokyo governor plans to build a nuclear plant along Tokyo bay

    Having received the petition of 320,000 people for referendum of nuclear power, Ishihara Tokyo governor mentioned the plan to build a nuclear plant along the coast of Tokyo bay.

    He believes Fukushima plants were damaged by Tsunami, suggests to build one on the mountain in Chiba.
    He stated Mt. Nokogiri yama in Chiba is 329m of height, 1km from Tokyo bay so it can take water from Tokyo bay for its coolant system.
    Ishihara mentioned this plan at Metropolitan Assembly budget Committee on 3/14/2012 at first but local residents opposed the plan. Ishihara commented, it was merely an idea for civilization, but he wont apologize.

    Fukushima elementary schools held sports festival
    All of the 52 elementary schools in Fukushima held sports festival on 5/12/2012 on the assumption that radiation was removed by decontamination.
    They cancelled it or held it in gymnasium last year.
    They shortened the time and made students wear masks when they touch the ground.

    【原発】2年ぶり屋外で運動会 福島 小学校(12/05/12) - YouTube

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    • Like having Dracula guard the blood bank

      World Health Organization beholden to nuclear interests

      The World Health Organization is in the news today as it weighs in on Fukushima.

      Heres some background on the WHO and affiliated organizations:

      Former head of WHO admits they answer to IAEA (VIDEO)

      2:30 Agreement between IAEA and WHO WHO cannot research health effects of radiation or effects of nuclear accidents if IAEA does not agree
      7:00 Former head of WHO admits they answer to IAEA
      14:00 Chernobyl had no effect -UN
      15:45 Scientist refutes UN
      27:30 200km from Chernobyl, 10,000 becquerels measured inside child
      30:20 According to Professor Yury Bandazhevsky (former director of the Medical Institute in Gomel), Over 50 Bq/kg of body weight lead to irreversible lesions in vital organs
      30:50 *MUST SEE* Refutes internal radiation! -Norman Gentner, Secretary of UN UNSCEAR (United Nations Scientific Committee on the Effects of Atomic Radiation), ~2001 (See Gentner speak at 13:55 No increase in leukemia, even among liquidators)
      34:15 *MUST SEE* Internal or external it makes no difference
      nwa-schweiz.ch - Nuclear Controversies

      World Health Organization beholden to IAEA since 1959 Cant release a report without their agreement Like having Dracula guard the blood bank

      Three years ago, the International Atomic Energy Agency (IAEA)s research mission visited the contaminated areas. Dr. Shigematsu [Japanese], chairman of the mission, announced there are no health damages among the residents. [...]

      Mr. Hirokawa, after looking at your video, I wonder what it was that IAEA announced there were no health damages among the residents. [...]

      The local people believed a fair research would be done, because IAEA is an agency of the United Nations and a medical scientist from Hiroshima would lead the research. So, they were astounded that the mission had announced the areas were safe.

      But, didnt the mission actually see the situation there?

      Well, according to the local doctors, the mission members didnt enter the heavily-contaminated areas.

      Besides, they brought their food, sourced from far away, and didnt eat anything local.

      Still, they declared its safe. No wonder the local people are infuriated.

      If the mission found local food too dangerous to eat, they should have said its dangerous.

      The very credibility of the International Atomic Energy Agency is seriously challenged, isnt it?

      Yes. I hear that when the nuclear industry of the former USSR started to do business with the nuclear industry of the US, they probably agreed that downplaying the damages by the accident would be beneficial for both sides.

      Sieben Jahre nach Tschernobyl: japanische TV-Serie von 1993 (deutsche, english subs) - YouTube

      UN Atomic Agency Money Goes to Terror Fight, Not Nuclear Safety, Bloomberg, Dec. 10, 2011 (Emphasis Added):

      Introduction

      The [International Atomic Energy Agency] classifies safety as one of its top three priorities, yet is spending 8.9 percent [of budget...] on making plants secure from accidents
      The IAEA was founded in 1957 as the global Atoms for Peace organization to promote safe, secure and peaceful nuclear technology
      2,300 work at the IAEAs secretariat at its headquarters
      Its mission statement encapsulates the same conflict as Japans failed nuclear-safety regime: playing the role of both promoter and regulator of atomic power, according to scientists, diplomats and analysts interviewed by Bloomberg News.

      Johannis Noeggerath, president of Switzerlands Society of Nuclear Professionals and safety director for the countrys Leibstadt reactor


      [IAEA] accepted for years the overlap between regulation and industry in Japan
      They have a safety culture problem

      Wikileaks

      The agencys safety division garnered little respect in U.S. diplomatic cables that described the department as a marketing channel for countries seeking to sell atomic technology

      IAEA vs. Convention on Nuclear Safety

      The IAEAs own mission to promote atomic power may also contradict the Convention on Nuclear Safety.

      Each contracting party shall take the appropriate steps to ensure an effective separation between the functions of the regulatory body and those of any other body or organization concerned with the promotion or utilization of nuclear energy, says article 8.2 of the convention.

      Robert Kelley, a former IAEA director who led inspections in Iraq

      IAEA inspectors and field workers are largely on their own when it comes to safely carrying out their jobs
      They receive little guidance or support and they are very dependent on the facilities they are inspecting to protect their health

      Trevor Findlay, former Australian diplomat


      The IAEA did not seize the opportunity of this dreadful event to advance the agencys role in nuclear safety
      IAEA Director General Yukiya Amano has been tough on Iran and Syria, but not when it comes to nuclear safety
      The agencys failure on Fukushima is due to its timid leadership and an over-reliance on Japanese data

      Akio Matsumura, a former diplomat and chairman of the World Business Academy

      The absence of independent information about the [Fukushima] meltdown compounds those fears, he said
      The IAEA has disseminated reports on updates at Fukushima, but the source of the information is the Japanese government
      If the Japanese government chooses to remain opaque in its dealings, then the IAEA reports will be useless

      Bloomberg adds this interesting piece of previously unknown information: One IAEA plant inspector fell into a Czech nuclear-fuel cooling pond in 2007, according to four officials who declined to be identified. The agency wont make public a full list of incidents involving its own staff.

      Japan researchers believe Reactor No. 1 filled with steam Gas leaking from upper part

      ater inside Fukushima No. 1 reactor may be only 40 cm deep
      Kyodo
      May 23, 2012

      An analysis by the Japan Nuclear Energy Safety Organization has shown that the level of the water filling the crippled No. 1 reactor at the Fukushima Daiichi nuclear power plant may be far lower than estimated by plant operator Tokyo Electric Power Co., officials of the organization said Tuesday.

      JNES analyzed the water level based on the assumption that the primary container is filled with steam, which is created when water cools the fuel, and nitrogen, which is inserted to prevent hydrogen explosions. It assumed gas is leaking from the containers upper part and the coolant water from the lower part.

      JNES thinks that the water injected into the reactor may be leaking from a hole located in a section connecting the primary container and the suppression pool, leaving the container with water just 40 cm in depth.
      The hole is believed to be about 2 cm in diameter. Only one??
      __________________________________________________ _______________
      After several M5's quakes rattling the area of damaged reactors during past few days M 6.1 just hit Hokkaido few minutes ago and there is a storm warning issued as well.

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      • Nuclear sub burning 50 miles from Boston

        Nuclear sub catches fire in Maine Naval shipyard | Reuters
        Reuters
        Ros Krasny
        Wed May 23, 2012 11:35pm EDT

        Firefighters were still battling the blaze after 10 p.m., with equipment brought in from as far away as Bostons Logan International Airport, about 60 miles away.

        The ships reactor was not operating at the time and was not affected, shipyard spokeswoman Tami Remick said by telephone from Kittery.

        Issues not addressed by the spokeswoman:

        Has there been any release of radioactivity?
        Though its reported the fire is not affecting the reactor, has any nuclear material been affected?

        Four firefighters were injured tonight while battling a fire aboard the USS Miami nuclear-powered attack submarine

        Black smoke was visible from Prescott Park in Portsmouth, N.H., and continued to billow from the dry dock. A Portsmouth fire engine was on standby at Peirce Island.

        Nicole Doherty, who works at Badger Island Pizzeria nearby, told the Herald she could see the smoke clearly and the smell of the fire had her worried.

        It smells like plastic, she said. It doesnt smell like a regular fire.

        Fire still burning aboard nuclear-powered USS Miami

        SeacoastOnline.com
        Joey Cresta
        May 23, 2012 7:45 PM

        A four-alarm fire was still burning aboard the USS Miami nuclear-powered submarine Wednesday night at the Portsmouth Naval Shipyard, more than four hours after it began, according to the yards commander.

        Residents in some parts of Kittery reported a small of burning plastic in the air, and sirens from fire apparatus were heard throughout the night.

        Fire on nuke-powered sub at Portsmouth Naval Shipyard hurts 6
        WMUR
        12:59 AM EDT May 24, 2012

        Fire crews responded Wednesday to the USS Miami SSN 755 at the Portsmouth Naval Shipyard around 5:41 p.m.

        Around 11:45 p.m. on Wednesday, Fuller said the fire was not out, but conditions were improving. He said heat from the fire was still creating a significant amount of steam.

        According to the reporter, the submarines dimensions are approximately 360 feet long by 32 feet wide. The reactor appears to be located about 200 feet from the front of the vessel where the fire is said to be burning.

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        • Cesium-137 contamination: Fukushima amounts to four Chernobyls
          Russia Today
          May 24, 2012

          TEPCOs new estimates suggest that its Fukushima reactor has released more than quadruple the amount of radioactive cesium-137 leaked during the Chernobyl disaster. But the method used to measure the damage may undervalue the hazard even further.

          *[...] it still seems to be just an effort to downplay the real scale of the event.

          The report goes on to compare Fukushima with the Chernobyl accident of 1986, where it says 5,200,000 TBq of radioactive substances were leaked into the atmosphere.

          The problem is that TEPCO only counts the amount of iodine-131 and cesium-137 leaked from the Fukushima reactor, and compares them to the whole range of isotopes that were discharged at Chernobyl.

          And if compared properly, the numbers tell a different story.

          Regarding the emission of cesium-137, Fukushima is far ahead its rival. Post-Fukushima estimations suggest that Chernobyl put out a total of 85,000 TBq of caesium-137 over the course of the disaster. The Fukushima reactor, however, has so far released 360,000 TBq of cesium-137, according to TEPCO.

          Explosive eruption seen at Japans Sakurajima Volcano

          5/24/2012 -- Large Explosive eruption at Sakurajima Volcano - South Japan - YouTube

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          • LOS ANGELES (AP) - Across the vast Pacific, the mighty bluefin tuna carried radioactive contamination that leaked from Japan's crippled nuclear plant to the shores of the United States 6,000 miles away - the first time a huge migrating fish has been shown to carry radioactivity such a distance.

            "We were frankly kind of startled," said Nicholas Fisher, one of the researchers reporting the findings online Monday in the Proceedings of the National Academy of Sciences.

            The levels of radioactive cesium were 10 times higher than the amount measured in tuna off the California coast in previous years. But even so, that's still far below safe-to-eat limits set by the U.S. and Japanese governments.

            But scientists did not expect the nuclear fallout to linger in huge fish that sail the world because such fish can metabolize and shed radioactive substances.

            AP News: Radioactive bluefin tuna crossed the Pacific to US



            The average total dose rate for the USA is 360 mrem a year. It has been estimated that your chance of dying from cancer increases 10% if you accumulate a total of 250,000 mrem. This would be over 3,000 mrem a year over 80 years, for example. This estimates presumably assume a linear risk factor between dose and the chance of getting cancer, and there are those who now dispute such assumptions, which means the risks from low levels of radiation may be overstated.

            A single dose of around 450 R (450,000 mR) is usually considered produce death in 50% of the cases.

            What radiation levels are considered safe?

            Al

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            • Obama Order Sped Up Wave of Cyberattacks Against Iran

              Mr. Obama decided to accelerate the attacks begun in the Bush administration and code-named Olympic Games even after an element of the program accidentally became public in the summer of 2010 because of a programming error that allowed it to escape Irans Natanz plant and sent it around the world on the Internet. Computer security experts who began studying the worm, which had been developed by the United States and Israel, gave it a name: Stuxnet.

              Iran initially denied that its enrichment facilities had been hit by Stuxnet, then said it had found the worm and contained it.

              American cyberattacks are not limited to Iran, but the focus of attention, as one administration official put it, has been overwhelmingly on one country. There is no reason to believe that will remain the case for long. Some officials question why the same techniques have not been used more aggressively against North Korea. Others see chances to disrupt Chinese military plans, forces in Syria on the way to suppress the uprising there, and Qaeda operations around the world. Weve considered a lot more attacks than we have gone ahead with, one former intelligence official said.

              http://www.nytimes.com/2012/06/01/wo...pagewanted=all


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              • Japan's radiation found in California bluefin tuna

                For the first time, scientists have detected radioactivity in fish that have migrated into California waters from the ocean off Japan, where radiation contaminated the sea after explosions tore through the Fukushima nuclear reactors last year.

                Radioactive cesium was detected in samples of highly prized Pacific bluefin tuna, but it is well below levels considered unsafe for humans, the scientists say.
                Signs and symbols rule the world, not words nor laws. -Confucius.

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                • Chiba...

                  Chinese official calls Chiba Port an area with high radiation risk

                  Scrap metals from Japan found radioactive
                  China Daily
                  June 6, 2012


                  Radiation levels found in 1,127 tons of scrap metals imported from Japan exceeded Chinas regulated safe levels three times over, authorities with Zhejiang Ningbos customs said on Wednesday.

                  The metals came from Japans Chiba Port.


                  We figured it came from Chiba Port, the area with high radiation risk, said [Dai Weigu, deputy chief of Ningbo Zhenhai Customs' department of logistics monitoring].

                  He said the radiation detectors alarm went off [...] on June 4.

                  Chinese Customs Intercepts Radioactive Waste From Japan
                  RTTNews
                  June 6, 2012


                  Radiation levels of the waste metals, imported by a recycled metal company in Ningbo, was twice the national standard and hazardous to humans and the environment, Chinese state media reported on Tuesday quoting Customs officials.
                  The metals contained caesium-137, a radioactive isotope of cesium.

                  Massive fish kill outside Tokyo in Chiba The sight is somewhat apocalyptic Almost looks like a carpet of sardines


                  There are tons and tons of dead sardines washing up on the shore [at the fishing port of Ohara in Isumi City of Chiba Prefecture]

                  According to the news, the dead fish started washing up around noon of June 3rd, and as of early afternoon on June 4th, the situation still remained pretty much out of control.
                  Weve seen the pictures uploaded onto Twitter, and the port looks completely filled with fish it almost looks like a carpet of sardines. It doesnt seem likely that any fishing boats will be setting sail from this port soon. There are also, of course, the usual posts and comments on the internet on how this could be an omen, a sign of a coming great natural disaster.
                  You have to admit the sight is somewhat apocalyptic.

                  Something fishy’s going on in a fishing port in Japan, literally – and tons and tons of ittoo! | RocketNews24

                  Giant piece of tsunami debris washes up in Oregon Biologists shocked by what they found This makes us rethink everything

                  Japanese officials have confirmed that a huge dock that washed ashore on the Oregon coast is debris from last years tsunami
                  [It originated] in Misawa, a northern Japanese city
                  The 66-foot-long structure 7 feet tall and 19 feet wide was first reported offshore Monday and made landfall late Tuesday or early Wednesday morning.

                  Huge dock washed ashore on Oregon coast is debris from Japan's tsunami | OregonLive.com

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                  • animals exposed to radiation

                    Mainichi: Cattle attack police car in Fukushima Chernobyl Biologist: One hog attacked our car with such force we almost went in ditch

                    Several collisions have been occurring between cars and roaming cattle in the no-entry zone around the Fukushima No. 1 Nuclear Power Plant, it has been learned.

                    According to the Fukushima Prefectural Government, after the nuclear disaster began, around 2,000 cattle in the no-entry zone were euthanized or otherwise disposed of. Prefectural workers and others have been catching cattle that escaped from barns or otherwise ended up roaming, but as there are also cattle that have been born amongst roaming cattle, the prefecture estimates there are over 200 cattle roaming in the zone. There was one case of a police car with its red light on being surrounded by cattle and attacked by bulls with horns.

                    Cars collide with roaming cattle in zone around Fukushima plant- 毎日jp(毎日新聞)

                    See also: Strange: Animals went mad and began attacking humans after exposure to high radiation levels, says Chernobyl scientist -- Dogs, foxes, wolves, hogs.

                    Description: In the third of five parts of a seminar held at San Francisco State University April 8, 2011, radiation biologist Natalia Manzurova tells of her experience as a Chernobyl clean up liquidator translated by psychologist Tatiana Mukhamedyarova.

                    Transcript Summary

                    At 5:40 in

                    The dose of radiation exposure was so high that a lot of animals who were exposed to it just went mad that is they were just crazy[?]
                    The dogs that were left in the zone went to the forest foxes, wolves started attacking people who were working in the zone
                    In fact even the hogs in the wild, they also became mad and also started attacking
                    We were going from Chernobyl where we stayed overnight to Pripyat one hog attacked our car with such force that we almost went into the ditch in the car

                    CHERNOBYL to FUKUSHIMA - Part 3 - A Radiation Biologist's Story - YouTube

                    Kyodo: 1,300 people file criminal complaint against Japan govt officials and Tepco execs Haruki Madarame, 32 others accused

                    1,300 file criminal complaint against TEPCO execs, nuclear safety officials
                    Kyodo News
                    June 11, 2012


                    Around 1,300 people mainly from Fukushima Prefecture on Monday filed a criminal complaint against Tokyo Electric Power Co. Chairman Tsunehisa Katsumata and 32 others, arguing they were responsible for causing the nuclear disaster at the Fukushima Daiichi power plant and the exposure of the plaintiffs to radiation.

                    the 33, also including former TEPCO president Masataka Shimizu and Nuclear Safety Commission chief Haruki Madarame

                    They also argued the failure to promptly announce data on the spread of radiation from the System for Prediction of Environmental Emergency Dose Information, or SPEEDI, hindered evacuation of the residents (around the Fukushima complex) and expanded their radiation exposure.

                    So Terrifying: Radioactive materials from Fukushima Daiichi wont be recovered They are just going to be taken into our bodies I feel deep regret -Local Official

                    June 10, 2012 post by Minamisoma city council member Koichi Oyama


                    In front of Fukushima Prefectural Office: Over 3 million Bq. Pity.. Expectation proved right

                    Cesium 134+137. Unit = Bq/Kg

                    Minamisoma odaka-ku Kanaya Shimokugino  2,970,000

                    Minamisoma odakaku           5,570,000

                    Fukushima-city Sugitsuma-cho (Prefectural Office)  3,148,238

                    - "I wonder how much Bq it is going to be if Plutonium and Strontium are included.
                    So terrifying. I dont need them to fly over on me.

                    I feel deeply regret that the radioactive materials that have been released from Fukushima-Daiichi wont be recovered, and they are just going to be taken into our bodies."

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                    • I don't think they will do anything about cleaning up the radio active contaminants, I believe they will continue to let it spread effectively diluting it. I am convinced this is their plan.

                      Strange about the animals

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                      • Is radiation safe? Have we been lied to about its dangers?

                        I ran across this video the other day And oh boy it sure flies in the face of everything we know about radiation, well at least everything we have been told about it.

                        If true it is hard to believe that a lie like this could go on as long as it has and not have been exposed. Yet we know that the price of diamonds is artificially high because the PTB purposely limit the supply and the same thing is true of oil prices. So I guess it is not that much of a stretch of the imagination to believe the PTB would want total control over electrical power generation.

                        More information is needed.

                        The Nuclear Scare Scam | Galen Winsor - YouTube

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                        • Originally posted by Mad Scientist View Post
                          Is radiation safe? Have we been lied to about its dangers?

                          I ran across this video the other day And oh boy it sure flies in the face of everything we know about radiation, well at least everything we have been told about it.

                          If true it is hard to believe that a lie like this could go on as long as it has and not have been exposed. Yet we know that the price of diamonds is artificially high because the PTB purposely limit the supply and the same thing is true of oil prices. So I guess it is not that much of a stretch of the imagination to believe the PTB would want total control over electrical power generation.

                          More information is needed.

                          The Nuclear Scare Scam | Galen Winsor - YouTube

                          Wilhelm Rich did research in this area and look what happened to him and his work. They went to great links to discredit him and destroy his work and made an example of him and any that would follow along the same research path.

                          Saying nuclear power and the byproduct of radiation is safe is like the saying from the Outlaw Jose Wales movie "Senator don't piss down my back and call it rain" piss being the nuclear radiation and rain being it is safe.

                          Reich's experiments indicated that this living force could actually be measured in terms such as heat or movement, and that it is present in varying degrees depending on sickness or health of the organ-ism. And that this life-giving substratum is bothered by high-voltage power grids and is in effect irritated into a frenzy by unnatural levels of nuclear radioactivity.

                          There is no doubt in my mind that nuclear power radiation is unsafe. Rather than believe the words being spoon fed to us, do a simple experiment and just get close (visual range) to a nuclear power plant and sense the environment. Completely dead feeling and lifeless. If you are not close to one where you can physically do that, Google some pictures of nuclear power plants and you can connect that way and get a sense of how lifeless those environments are.

                          Those are my experiences at least around the ones in Oregon, Tennessee, & Florida.

                          IndianaBoys

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                          • Originally posted by IndianaBoys View Post
                            There is no doubt in my mind that nuclear power radiation is unsafe.
                            Well that is certainly what I have been led to believe, but here we have a guy who claims to have swam in and drank the water in the cooling storage tanks.
                            Now I am not about to jump into a cooling pool to test out his claim, but after listening to his story I cannot totally dismiss it either.

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                            • Originally posted by Mad Scientist View Post
                              Well that is certainly what I have been led to believe, but here we have a guy who claims to have swam in and drank the water in the cooling storage tanks.
                              Now I am not about to jump into a cooling pool to test out his claim, but after listening to his story I cannot totally dismiss it either.
                              Main point is, it is best to make a DECISION.

                              Yogi takes massive dose of LSD with no effects ...
                              Guru Takes LSD with No Effect

                              IndianaBoys

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                              • Originally posted by Mad Scientist View Post
                                Is radiation safe? Have we been lied to about its dangers?

                                I ran across this video the other day And oh boy it sure flies in the face of everything we know about radiation, well at least everything we have been told about it.

                                If true it is hard to believe that a lie like this could go on as long as it has and not have been exposed. Yet we know that the price of diamonds is artificially high because the PTB purposely limit the supply and the same thing is true of oil prices. So I guess it is not that much of a stretch of the imagination to believe the PTB would want total control over electrical power generation.

                                More information is needed.

                                The Nuclear Scare Scam | Galen Winsor - YouTube
                                No level of radiation is safe. and you are right about the PTB.

                                Originally posted by Mad Scientist
                                Well that is certainly what I have been led to believe, but here we have a guy who claims to have swam in and drank the water in the cooling storage tanks.
                                Now I am not about to jump into a cooling pool to test out his claim, but after listening to his story I cannot totally dismiss it either.

                                You could swim in these pools as radiation at the levels you are exposed to would not kill you immediately, cancer takes time. Personally I believe the story is an urban myth as I have heard this story myself.

                                Originally posted by IndianaBoys
                                Saying nuclear power and the byproduct of radiation is safe is like the saying from the Outlaw Jose Wales movie "Senator don't piss down my back and call it rain" piss being the nuclear radiation and rain being it is safe.
                                Love the quote, I will use that myself.

                                Originally posted by IndianaBoys
                                There is no doubt in my mind that nuclear power radiation is unsafe. Rather than believe the words being spoon fed to us, do a simple experiment and just get close (visual range) to a nuclear power plant and sense the environment. Completely dead feeling and lifeless. If you are not close to one where you can physically do that, Google some pictures of nuclear power plants and you can connect that way and get a sense of how lifeless those environments are.

                                Those are my experiences at least around the ones in Oregon, Tennessee, & Florida.
                                I must admit I know what you mean, my experiences were at Hartlepool, Haysham and AWE Aldermaston although I could not put my finger on it at the time

                                British Energy - Hartlepool
                                British Energy - Heysham 1
                                Welcome to AWE

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