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  • #31

    Love it ....thank you

    “You are not poor when you have no money,” she said, “you are poor when you have nothing to offer – except for the elderly and the sick, to whom we should all be offering

    A determination to ‘move beyond anger to creativity’ is driving a strong barter economy in some places.
    “Signs and symbols rule the world, not words nor laws.” -Confucius.

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    • #32
      Originally posted by MonsieurM View Post
      Love it ....thank you
      Always a pleasure
      I did ask quite a few people about the concept of $less society. For most, it seem to abstract to even debate. A few wondered "what if" but it doesn't really take much imagination. I used to witness such system working (long time ago) and it is possible. All it takes is to perceive the other person as someone like us instead of someone much different - as they want us to believe and abandon the idea of gain (with exception of electronic circuits ).
      Humming along this song - John Lennon - Imagine - YouTube will definitely help

      Vtech
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      • #33
        I think it is time for California to start learning from the Lessons of the Greece People :
        “You are not poor when you have no money,” she said, “you are poor when you have nothing to offer – except for the elderly and the sick, to whom we should all be offering
        Monty Pelerin's World Β» California Imploding Just Like Greece

        Lady Thatcher’s axiom regarding Socialism has come to California. They have “run out of other people’s money” at least in the sense that tax revenues are plunging. The table below shows the accounting results of a dying economy.

        A determination to ‘move beyond anger to creativity’ is driving a strong barter economy in some places.

        Besides when a blue pole goes against its Nature...you end up with the Present Result



        Last edited by MonsieurM; 03-19-2012, 12:00 PM.
        “Signs and symbols rule the world, not words nor laws.” -Confucius.

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        • #34
          What is wrong with this picture?

          I hesitated to post this here but after all...I think this is related -
          ANIMAL BEHAVIOR: Mass Stranding of Dolphins in Brazil - 30 Beached Mammals Rescued! - YouTube

          MASS FISH DIE-OFF: Dolphins Are Dying in Record Numbers in the Atlantic Ocean! - YouTube

          Disoriented dolphins?? By WHAT?

          Thanks
          Vtech
          Last edited by blackchisel97; 03-19-2012, 09:23 PM. Reason: edit link
          'Get it all on record now - get the films - get the witnesses -because somewhere down the road of history some bastard will get up and say that this never happened'

          General D.Eisenhower


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          • #35
            interesting turn of events ( principle of Polarity ) youth vs old guard




            Saudi Arabia: the youth begins to move
            the 5. April 2012 - 0:21



            The Arab Spring is slowly forward in Saudi Arabia, where the discontent seems to win new segments of society.
            The Arab Spring is slowly forward in Saudi Arabia, where the discontent seems to win new segments of society. This time, it is students who have demonstrated their desire for change in a petition posted on a blog (youthpetition.wordpress.com) and has already gathered over 2,400 signatures. This form of protest came as the authorities show of firmness in dealing with street protests that occur frequently in certain regions of the Wahhabi kingdom, one of the most closed countries in the world.

            The text posted on the Internet is an "unprecedented audacity," wrote the daily As Safir in its Tuesday edition. Young people express their rejection of "supervision" exercised by "the religious authorities on society" and denounce the use of "force, power and influence" and "the destruction of others." Entitled "The Manifesto of the Saudi youth to protect freedoms and culture of difference", the petition rejected "the paternalistic tutelage," alluding to the domination of society by political and religious powers, which form a alliance since the founding of the Wahhabi kingdom.

            "We know our rights and duties, say the young Saudis in the petition. We do not allow anyone to question our patriotism or our Islam. We do not allow, either, that any current or movement speaks for us, claiming a monopoly of representing us, guide us, advise us, or to exercise guardianship over us because you want us protect and immunize us against the ideas that are inconsistent with his belief system. " The petition violently attacks the religious authorities, accused of practicing "the politics of eliminating all those who do not agree with them."

            This petition coincides with the testimony of an eminent jurist and theologian Saudi Oweilet Abdullah, who has sharply criticized the closure of all institutions and businesses, including bakeries and pharmacies, at the hour of prayer for 30 to 40 minutes, which paralyzes the country several times a day. A few weeks ago, the Saudi students were violently repressed by police after protesting on campuses of several universities to demand better conditions for women.

            “Signs and symbols rule the world, not words nor laws.” -Confucius.

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            • #36
              here is an example of the above theory ... and a veil being unveiled

              Episode 273 — RT

              Max Keiser and co-host Stacy Herbert discuss the return of the Silver Liberation Army as JP Morgan’s Blythe Masters claims the bank does not manipulate silver prices. They also discuss JP Morgan’s “London whale” breaking the credit default swap (CDS) index market with massive prop position. In the second half of the show, Max talks to author Pierre Jovanovic about Blythe Masters’ role at JP Morgan and the similarities between the world today and France of the 18th century on the eve of revolution.
              try to share this info as we know The Universe is all Wave .... make this one a big wave .... karma also has a role to play



              “Signs and symbols rule the world, not words nor laws.” -Confucius.

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              • #37
                Iceland Wipes Out CitizenΒ΄s Debt! Bankers On Trail!?, page 1

                This is awesome. It shows when the people DO STAND UP they have more power and win against the corrupt bankers and politicians of a country. Iceland is forgiving and erasing the mortgage debt of the population. They are putting the bankers and politicians on the "Bench of the Accused." Which means I assume they are putting them on trial for corruption.

                Now the rest of people of the world need to start doing the same thing. We all need to stand up and against all the corruption and fraud of the banks and politicians that are puppets of the banks and corporations.
                Iceland’s special prosecutor has said it may indict as many as 90 people, while more than 200, including the former chief executives at the three biggest banks, face criminal charges. Larus Welding, the former CEO of Glitnir Bank hf, once Iceland’s second biggest, was indicted in December for granting illegal loans and is now waiting to stand trial. The former CEO of Landsbanki Islands hf, Sigurjon Arnason, has endured stints of solitary confinement as his criminal investigation continues.
                Icelandic Anger Brings Debt Forgiveness in Best Recovery Story - Businessweek

                “You could safely say that Iceland holds the world record in household debt relief,” said Lars Christensen, chief emerging markets economist at Danske Bank A/S in Copenhagen. “Iceland followed the textbook example of what is required in a crisis. Any economist would agree with that.”
                Iceland’s approach to dealing with the meltdown has put the needs of its population ahead of the markets at every turn.
                Iceland chose the blue pill .... Socionomics View





                Last edited by MonsieurM; 04-14-2012, 12:31 PM.
                “Signs and symbols rule the world, not words nor laws.” -Confucius.

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                • #38
                  BREAKING; Qatar Military Coup "Rumours" Stir Bad Blood With House of Saud

                  The rumour mill is churning in the Persian Gulf with unconfirmed reports of a failed military coup against the Qatari ruler.

                  There were even media reports that American military helicopters had whisked the Emir and his wife to a safe unknown destination in the aftermath of the failed putsch, said to be have been attempted by high-ranking officers.

                  Saudi news channel Al Arabiya reported earlier today a coup bid against Qatari Emir Hamad Bin Khalifa Al Thani. However, by midday, the story appeared to have been removed from Al Arabiya’s English-language website.

                  Iranian news channel Press TV toned down its early headlines of a coup and later speculated that Saudi-owned Al Arabiya may have been engaging in disinformation to undermine the Qatari regime, indicating a power struggle between the Houses of Saud and Thani.

                  The FARS semi-official Iranian news channel, however, insisted that sources within the Qatari royal entourage had confirmed earlier this week that there was a foiled coup in Doha.

                  Not surprisingly, Qatari-owned Al Jazeera news site ran no information on the alleged plot.

                  Whether the reports of this week’s failed coup turn out to be rumour or something more sinister, there is nevertheless no disguising the fact of underlying bad blood in the Gulf Arab enclave, both between and within the Gulf monarchies.

                  That may at first seem at odds with the “thick as thieves” appearance of the six states that form the Gulf Co-operation Council: Saudi Arabia, Kuwait, Bahrain, Qatar, United Arab Emirates and Oman. All are Sunni monarchies that have aligned with the US-led NATO powers’ aggressive policy of isolating Shia Iran.

                  Saudi Arabia and Qatar have emerged in particular as militant allies of US/NATO geopolitics across the Middle East. They played instrumental roles in paving the way for NATO’s aerial bombardment and regime change in Libya; and they have been most strident in denouncing the Syrian government of Bashar Al Assad, calling for his overthrow and arming mercenary forces that are accused of committing atrocities and sabotage.
                  “Signs and symbols rule the world, not words nor laws.” -Confucius.

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                  • #39
                    King of Spain says he's sorry for going on elephant hunt - latimes.com

                    MADRID -- The king of Spain offered an unprecedented apology Wednesday for going on an elephant-hunting safari in Africa while his subjects struggle with recession and high unemployment at home.

                    The Spanish public only found out about last week's Botswana jaunt after King Juan Carlos, 74, fell and broke his hip while getting out of bed Friday and had to be airlifted home for hip-replacement surgery the next day. By law, the king is required to inform the government of his whereabouts, but it's unclear whether he did that, or whether he specified the nature of his Africa trip.


                    Spain Is Doomed: Why Austerity Is Destroying Europe - Matthew O'Brien - Business - The Atlantic


                    vTo crib from Keynes, Europe's policymakers have blundered in the control of a delicate machine, the workings of which they do not understand. They're not evil. But they're almost certainly wrong. Rather than consider the possibility that the economy might work differently than they think, they have settled on a simple message: The beatings will continue. Unfortunately, morale will continue to not improve. Eventually, you have to think leaders in Europe's beat-up countries will begin to wonder if life might be better outside the euro zone. Hopefully, the ECB will come to its senses first.
                    Last edited by MonsieurM; 04-18-2012, 05:57 PM.
                    “Signs and symbols rule the world, not words nor laws.” -Confucius.

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                    • #40
                      continuing on our lifting some veils

                      Nigel Farage: Euro Break-Up Just a Question of How - YouTube!

                      “Signs and symbols rule the world, not words nor laws.” -Confucius.

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                      • #41
                        Check out what this Economist has to say ... really interesting .... especially about education

                        Keiser Report: Beggars Without Borders (E279) - YouTube

                        In this episode, Max Keiser and co-host, Stacy Herbert discuss debt piles and thin dimes. They also discuss Christine Lagarde begging for money outside Penn Station while insider trading bankers 'charitably' talk to beggars at Grand Central. In the second half of the show Max talks to economist Michael Hudson about the austerity, debt and fraudulent conveyance.
                        Live Curious

                        If you are you breathe.
                        If you breathe you talk.
                        If you talk you ask.
                        If you ask you think.
                        If you think you search.
                        If you search you experience.
                        If you experience you learn.
                        If you learn you grow.
                        If you grow you wish.
                        If you wish you find.
                        And if you find you doubt.
                        If you doubt you question.
                        If you question you understand
                        and if you understand you know.
                        If you know you want to know more.
                        If you want to know more
                        ...then you are alive

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                        “Signs and symbols rule the world, not words nor laws.” -Confucius.

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                        • #42
                          here is a nice article on the History of fractals and its Future ... it resonates very strongly with our discussion:

                          a bit long but worth reading : (think of Tesla and all the others who understood "As Above so Below"

                          Science News Online 75th Anniversary Essay



                          Fractal Past, Fractal Future




                          By IVARS PETERSON

                          On a clear, brisk morning, a child marvels at the frilled intricacy of frost splayed across a sunlit windowpane. In the laboratory, a scientist peers at the minutely branched structure of a cluster of gold particles.



                          A character in Tom Stoppard's 1993 play Arcadia asks, "If there is an equation for a curve like a bell, there must be an equation for one like a bluebell, and if a bluebell, why not a rose?" If you asked a mathematician how to characterize the shape of a flower or Jack Frost's handiwork or metallic sprays, the answer would probably refer to forms called fractals.

                          Fractals have invaded the popular imagination. Calendars, computer screens, and books feature vivid, phantasmagorical images of weirdly branched, wildly swirling structures. Cartoonist Sidney Harris depicts a refurbished living room decorated with squiggles. "We did the whole room over in fractals," the hostess explains. Composer-pianist Zach Davids turns the subtly varying fractal intervals between successive heartbeats into musical sequences to create "Heartsongs" -- a remarkably pleasing score without apparent rhythm, meter, or harmony.

                          The word "fractal" was coined only 25 years ago by Benoit B. Mandelbrot, IBM Fellow Emeritus at the Thomas J. Watson Research Center in Yorktown Heights, N.Y., and mathematics professor at Yale University. Based on the Latin adjective meaning "broken," it conveyed Mandelbrot's sense that the geometry of nature is not one of straight lines, circles, spheres, and cones, but of a rich blend of structure and irregularity.

                          Although irregular, many natural forms also show a striking property. A fragment of rock looks like the mountain from which it was fractured. Clouds keep their distinctive wispiness whether viewed distantly from the ground or close-up from an airplane window. A tree's twigs often have the same branching structure seen near its trunk. Indeed, nature is full of shapes that are self-similar, repeating themselves on different scales within the same object.
                          During the late 19th and early 20th centuries, mathematicians constructed self-similar curves in the course of attempts to prove or disprove certain intuitive notions about space, dimension, and area. They described the curves as "pathological."

                          It was mathematics "skating on the edge of reason,( Harmonic Math )" remarks mathematician Hans Sagan of North Carolina State University in Raleigh. This byway was almost completely ignored by scientists. Such curves didn't seem relevant to their concerns.

                          Yet physicists were having great difficulty in answering seemingly simple questions about phenomena such as diffusion. When a person in a breezy room opens a bottle of perfume, how long does it take for someone on the other side of the room to smell it?

                          In turbulent air currents, perfume molecules take paths wispier, stringier, and more contorted than the routes they follow in a calm setting. "It's only with Mandelbrot's insight -- that all this wispiness involves those pathological 19th-century mathematical constructions -- that physicists were able eventually to start to attack those problems," says Michael F. Shlesinger of the Office of Naval Research in Arlington, Va.

                          One of the very few scientists who appreciated early on the peculiar geometric complexity of natural phenomena was physicist Jean Baptiste Perrin (1870-1942), who studied the erratic movements of microscopic particles suspended in liquids and remarked on the self-similar structures of natural objects.
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                          “Signs and symbols rule the world, not words nor laws.” -Confucius.

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                          • #43
                            ..... follow up

                            Fractal Past, Fractal Future

                            "Consider, for instance, one of the white flakes that are obtained by salting a solution of soap," Perrin wrote in 1906. "At a distance, its contour may appear sharply defined, but as we draw nearer, its sharpness disappears. . . . The use of a magnifying glass . . . leaves us just as uncertain, for fresh irregularities appear every time we increase the magnification, and we never succeed in getting a sharp, smooth impression, as given, for example, by a steel ball."

                            Mandelbrot had an advantage over Perrin and other predecessors in that he could commandeer computers to calculate and display stunning, unpredictable images of the extraordinary mathematical forms. Today, what 19th-century mathematicians could barely imagine can be speedily depicted and explored in three-dimensional, Technicolor splendor. Still, as graphic techniques continue to improve, "there's probably a lot more left to see and appreciate," notes Clifford A. Pickover, a research scientist at IBM.

                            Nowadays, fractals enter into scientists' descriptions of a wide range of phenomena, from the branching of air passages in the lungs and the flight paths of wandering albatrosses to the fracturing of a chunk of metal. Researchers are also looking toward the fractal frontiers.

                            Fractals have, for example, a potentially important role to play in characterizing weather systems and in providing insights into various physical processes, such as the occurrence of earthquakes or the formation of deposits that shorten battery life. Some scientists view fractal statistics as a doorway to a unifying theory of medicine, offering a powerful glimpse of what it means to be healthy.

                            Fractals lie at the heart of current efforts to understand complex natural phenomena. Unraveling their intricacies could reveal the basic design principles at work in our world.

                            Only recently, there was no word to describe fractals. Today, we are beginning to see such features everywhere. Tomorrow, we may look at the entire universe through a fractal lens .
                            “Signs and symbols rule the world, not words nor laws.” -Confucius.

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                            • #44
                              Home Owners Across the Nation Sue All Bank Servicers and Their Offshore Havens; Spire Law Officially, page 1

                              ""The laundering of trillions of dollars of U.S. taxpayer money -- and the wrongful taking of the homes of those taxpayers -- was known by the Administration and expressly supported by it. Evidence uncovered by the plaintiffs revealed that the Administration ignored its own agencies' reports -- and reports from the Department of Homeland Security -- about this situation, dating as far back as 2010. Worse, the Administration purported to endorse a 'national bank settlement' without disclosing or having any public discourse whatsoever about the thousands of foreign tax havens now wholly owned by our nation's banks. Fortunately, no home owner is bound to enter into this fraudulent bank settlement," stated Eric J. Wittenberg of Columbus, Ohio -- a noted trial lawyer, author and student of US history -- on behalf of plaintiffs in the case. "



                              “Signs and symbols rule the world, not words nor laws.” -Confucius.

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                              • #45
                                MonsieurM, I hope you don't mind -

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