Occupy Wall Street

[mbrownn]

I think Icke nails it here David Icke - Essential Knowledge For A Wall Street Protestor - YouTube

[Mad Scientist]

Yes he does tie it all together.
I will pass that link around.

[aljhoa]

ACORN: Puppet Master of Occupy Wall Street
The Working Families Party, an infamous ACORN front group notorious for corruption, was instrumental in organizing the Occupy Wall Street protests, according to radical journalist Laura Flanders of Free Speech TV.

The influence of ACORN on the Wall Street protests should have been clear by the unhinged nature of much of the demonstrations. The question is really only whether the radical outfit will push the mob into more and more extreme behavior. Determining the answer to this question will likely not be pleasant.
ACORN: Puppet Master of Occupy Wall Street | FrontPage Magazine

Top Obama Advisor Patrick Gaspard Behind the SEIU, ACORN, OWS Connection
Let’s set the facts straight right away about the public premise that OWS is a “leaderless movement.” That’s a lie. It’s just not true. Everything I have learned indicates otherwise.
Top Obama Advisor Patrick Gaspard Behind the SEIU, ACORN, OWS Connection | Alternative News Report

Al

[mbrownn]

Sad but true, we must isolate their influence, heckle them when the media is there.

[Emissary]

Beware of Sheeple in wolf's clothing.

Wow, this has gone to new height's of ... well, let's table that for now.
First of all our anti-Business Government is out of our control. The white house backs the "OWS" and their anti-business rants. Where do jobs come from? Government? Government spends money it does not make money. If their are no business and no jobs where is the money coming from?
Russia had OIL funds to use to control their people. Mr. Obama has shut down American oil production.
You did not learn world history (OWS and followers) as Russia and others have tried it. You want Jobs, Homes and Food. The USSR did that for their people.
The "saying" about "not learning history, Your Doomed to Repeat it." Like now has a true ring to it. This is all from a long term plan that started in Russia, in an "American Town" back I think it was the late 1940's, but the dates not that important, but, if your writing a book you can look it up. Those people in the "American Town's" immigrated to America with a plan to infiltrate our schools and infrastructure jobs. Public unions came from them and a lot of their work to harm America. It's like this "fiction:" The ads go out on craigslist for protesters, the people begin to get ugly and start to do damage and harm property and people... Mr. Obama brings back the military in December and by January or February America is under Marshal Law. So far the only part of that, that is fiction is the Marshal Law part.
The USSR gave there people Jobs, that you did show up to sick or not. Apartments shared with two other family's. Food was: "bread lines" some have not heard of them as it's not taught in our schools. You got meat once a week. The people ate grass, bark, varmints, birds, and so on... Learn it.
Mr. Obama's government is trying to get you all that way of life ASAP. With record Regulations and Record Debt Spending. The Gestapo at the EPA are out of control, making Hay illegal last month and making CO 2 illegal for Al Gore's CO 2 Credit's Market. Oh yeah their is much more from them and the other alphabets in the Obama administration. You will not see any of that on MSNBS or other libby TV Shows. You need to get out of you comfort zone and learn world history. America is the best country in the world. Sure you will not hear that from a liberal Media network. They have been talking down America for the 8 years of President Bush till now. The pliable and influence'able have been molded into good Sheeple of "change." The wrong change for America and our family's. We need to cut government, government spending, government regulations, and so on to bring the cancer under control. Government is not the answer to all your needs, you are and your community. The rich has a responsibility to help with donations to Churches and non-profits to get help to the people in need of a helping hand and REAL education. Everybody could help with a 10% donation of their tax bill to the Churches and or to the non-profits. Like it was meant to be. Flat tax is also best like a 12 to 14%. I heard of the 20% flat tax and um, maybe. Their is so much more, like schools to teach our kids how to get and keep a job so they can live a good life. In the 10th to 12th grades teach the kids on how to start and run a business. So, after they get out of school they can get a job learn what they can and always research on how to start a business like a candy store. So, they can do it again and again. Sure not all kids will ever own or open a business, but they can learn to work in one at school. Oh, the schools need to stop teaching personal stuff, that is the job of the parent or parents period. If they need help, they can get help buy classes at a Doctors office or medical institution or church classes. Schools are out of control I'm not going to talk about the pets thing, ugh. Out of control. Look, We The People of this great nation need to learn how to start a business, run a business as job one. If you "OWS" had a business and learned just what the government is cost you to sell your goods, you would say "beep" NO!!
America needs a change: American Constitutionalist Government.
That my friends is the answer.
As for "GREEN Energy" I say it's time now. If you know it, have it or ready to main stream it. The time is now.
I have developed the Seawater Energy Systems (SES) where the products are Energy, Fuel and Fresh Water from seawater and other methods. I am going to go national as soon as I get set up. I'm getting investors now. The "Men in Black" can't get us all, so go for it. Competition's cool, right? That's the basics, repair this great American Nation, help those in need as it's your job not the governments job. Protest by helping your town with improvements. Ask the town "what do We need?" You will get great training to get a job and one day start a business. After all you live there and it is your town. Do you like seeing protesters trash your town and your Flag? I don't. Good Luck.

[Joit]

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[Joit]

They start to remove Peoples in Oakland after they noticed them to leave the Park after 10 P.M.
The Peoples from Main movement still say to stay Non-Violent at the Protests

Tea Partie Protests did look different.
Thats is what Democracy looks like?

Occupy Oakland video Rio police fire tear gas flashbang grenades. - YouTube

Veteran shot in the face by police projectile at Occupy Oakland protests - YouTube

[aljhoa]

Dead Giveaway
Only Martians know the differences between Constitutional Republic
and other implemented systems throughout millennia.
Al

[Aaron]

free market vs. capitalism

Actually, i was referring to rhe paradigm of polarity, of DELIBERATELY-CULTIVATED and constantly re-enforced division between the two political "parties"... or the "two wings" of the vulture is another way to put it. And the insistence of always labeling and judging via this division... this all or nothing, black or white with-us-or-against-us way of viewing the world.

That keeps us divided and conquered.

What we have now in this country in the most important sectors, is not free market capitalism, it is illegally controlled markets.

I agree but would separate free market from capitalism. Free market on
its own is not an "ISM" like fascism, communism, etc... capitalism is as dangerous as other ism's and it evidenced by our current status of corporate/bank control from top down. That is capitalism.

What Does Free Market Mean?
A market economy based on supply and demand with little or no government control. A completely free market is an idealized form of a market economy where buyers and sells are allowed to transact freely (i.e. buy/sell/trade) based on a mutual agreement on price without state intervention in the form of taxes, subsidies or regulation.

It is a Free Market that we need to move back towards.

And the corporations need to pay the majority of income taxes based on their profits while compensation for labor is not taxable income like it used to be.

[Joit]

Main Stream Media in Full Action

There are different Demands out, what some Medias tie to the #OWS Movement, like the Demand of a Robing Hood Tax,
OWS Protesters May Demand "Robin Hood" Tax | Common Dreams
even i did read at other Pages, that the Tax was allready started.

For the most Peoples from the Movement its clear that no New Tax, as sweet is it will sounds like, does not solve the Problems what do exist at our fraudulent System.
But certain Groups still try to take over the Name, Movement, even the Term Anonymous, to use it for her Purpose.

[mbrownn]

Only local taxes are needed to build and repair roads etc.

How can any tax stimulate productivity or growth

When we arrest the perpetrators of this fraud we can fine them, some sort of reparations, for what they have done. With the sort of money that will be I cannot see any need for any other taxes. The ill-gotten wealth they have, should be taken from them and used for the benefit of the people of the world. Now that is a better way of doing it.

This way, if you haven't done anything wrong, then you wont be penalize

Unfortunately we are seeing the co opting and propagandization of OWS. Call them out on every twist they put on it, its about ending the FED and arresting the banksters.

[bhaas]

If the Occupy Group new that the banks don't really lend people money and that all mortgages are a fraud they'd really be pissed. "Your house is paid for when you signed the note" but the bank enslaves the sheeple by pretending to loan them money. Truth is, there's no such thing as money. Been gone since 1933. FRN's are not money and are not to be used for paying bills.

When you send in your FRN's you abandoned that "money" and after three years the bank gets to keep your FRN's cause you didn't claim them, plus all the proceeds from your mortgage note that can total to over 10 times the value of your home.

That's the main issue here. See the credit river case and many more like it. Credit comes out of thin air but you're not suppose to know that. It'll be our little secret.


I posted this to a Youtube Occupy page and it was remove within minutes. Twice. Lets see how long it'll stay here.

Here's a few cases regarding [MONEY]. Enjoy.

"In legal acceptation, "money" means current metallic coins; therefore an indictment for embezzling "money" is not sustainable by proof of embezzling greenbacks or national currency notes." Block v. State, 41 Tex. 620, 622. And,



"The term "money" does not include bank notes. They pass as cash, and constitute a part of the circulating medium, and for many purposes are to be considered as money; but, in the strict sense of the term, they are not included therein." Dowdle v. Corpening, 32 N.C. 58,60. And,



""Money," as used in Crimes Act, section 13, providing that any person stealing any money, the property of another, shall be guilty of larceny, cannot be construed to include bank bills, for strictly bank bills are not money, though for many purposes they are treated as such." Johnson v. State, 11 Ohio St. 324,325. And,



"The term "money" does not include bank notes. Hence an indictment under a statute making it an offense to play at games, etc., for money--the indictment charging that the defendant played at a game of faro for money--cannot be sustained by proof that bank notes were bet, nor would such an indictment be sustained by proof that property was bet." Hale v. State, 8 Tex. 171,172. And,


"The term "money," in the statute defining robbery as taking from the person of another any money or personal property of any value whatsoever, with force and violence, and with intent to steal or rob, does not include bank notes." Turner v. State, 1 Ohio St. 422,426.

[Joit]

Anyhow, i see this Robin Hood Tax in a way like some Tips what the upper Class should give the lower Peoples.


Now NYPD want threaten the Movement to sue them for injuries what her Members will get.
The NYPD Is Now Threatening To Sue Occupy Wall Street Protesters

And well bhass, some try to sue the Banks about this, what they did with her Houses.
The best you can do right now, is to stay in your House, because, as you write, they have a hard Time to find the original Documents for the Cases.
And even then, its mostly not clear if they have the Right, to take someone the House away with her Business behaviour
CNN on Staying in Your Foreclosed Home - YouTube

[Nadda]

@bhaas
great post, maybe that is why they emptied out fort knox, cant go back to using the real money if its all gone.

@Aaron
Good point, which is why you hear many people use the term "free market capitalism" altogether, the idea being a form of capitalism with mostly free markets. That's what I would like to see personally. There will never be a true free market, some regulations unfortunately are needed. I wish those who own businesses would take it upon themselves to be responsible for the consumers they sell to but many arnt. Just as some degree of regulations are needed in capitalism, so is a degree of socialism. I dont mind having a degree of either, as long as the structure is based on free markets with most regulations and socialism staying put on the local level.

It all comes down to responsibility, a true free market would be a beautiful thing, if only people would take it upon themselves to be responsible to themselves and everyone they sell a product or service to.

[Joit]

Occupy Oakland - police under scrutiny live updates | World news | guardian.co.uk

2.38pm: Karen McVeigh has been looking through examples of the letters sent to bankers through Occupy the boardroom:

Karen McVeigh

One unnamed person has written to John G. Stumpf, the Wells Fargo chairman and CEO, under the heading: "Congratulations Mr Stumpf",:

"Dear Mr. Stumpf,

I just wanted to write you a message, because I wanted to make sure you are aware of just how well your bank is doing at exceeding last year's numbers of $4.9 billion in bank account fees! I work two jobs(retail and freelance) to keep up with my student loan payments ($700/mo), mortgage ($1100/mo), utilities, insurance, credit, and two car payments ($1500/mo). I have so many payments, sometimes my account gets really low, and I like to pretend its a game to see if my paycheck will clear in time before the payment goes through! Its very exciting, and when I lose, YOU WIN! $30 each time! And then, if I forget to check my account balance before doing something silly, like getting a cup of coffee so I don't fall asleep driving, or getting really hungry and having to eat something, YOU win even more! I don't ever do it on purpose, but that's okay. I still get breakfast, don't wreck from being tired, and I'm helping you to exceed last year's numbers!

CONGRATULATIONS on all your success! May you do beautiful things with it!