Occupy Wall Street

[Aaron]

How many people are participating in these protests?

http://www.google.com/search?q=occupy+wall+street

[Pamela]

Yahoo, Aaron!

This is AWESOME!!!

I cannot express how much I LOVE watching this unfold!

My Gratitude that you have started this thread is Immense!

Pamela

[Joit]

Not me, because i am to far, maybe when its called Occupy my Gouvernment.
They try to go further with Occupy Denver Occupy DC Occupy Texas. But may do a break over the Winter.
I follow the Livestream lately oftens so far my Browser dont crash, because there are around 5000 Peoples in the Chat.
globalrevolution - live streaming video powered by Livestream

A Videolink out there shows the Cops going crazy with her Motocycles, because they seems cant handle it not different anymore. But it even shows how less they do know, what it is about, and seems the bigger Problem have with her own Ego
Occupy Wall Street - NYPD Gone Wild - Attacking Protesters With Motor Bikes - YouTube

[fan1701]

Video Exposing How ‘Occupy Wall Street’ Was Organized From Day One by SEIU / ACORN Front – The Working Family Party, and How They All Tie to the Obama Administration, DNC, Democratic Socialists of America, Tides and George Soros | V

Occupy Wall Street Was Organized From Day One by SEIU / ACORN Front - The Working Family Party - YouTube

The Left's Economic .wmv - YouTube

[Aaron]

occupy wall street

My comment on Soros behind the occupy movement that I posted on the
facebook page.

Could be organized by Soros and wouldn't be surprising. But even if so, there is a lot of momentum building and it could be directed in a different direction. Some are talking about capitalism that is causing problems - that isn't it. Compensation for labor isn't supposed to be taxable but profits are. If the corporations with their legal rape profits were paying majority of the income taxes like they're supposed to, we'd be just fine. It is the IRS and the Federal Reserve scam that is the problem. Now having the momentum of this movement to disband the Federal Reserve is worth fighting for.

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Therefore, anyone that doesn't want to participate because of who may
be behind ought to get on their feet, go down to the protests and pass
out signs to disband the federal reserve, etc... and to get the tax laws
back to what they used to be.

[mbrownn]

The End the Fed movement was starting to gain traction so It makes sense that soros and the oligarchs would want to co-opt it and occupy wall street may be where that attempt is taking place but they are not having as much success as they want. If it was organized by the oligarchs it is backfiring because it is waking people up.

Remember they have another set of goals, martial law and depopulation. Look what happened in europe recently, agent provocateurs were allowed to cause damage creating the excuse to crack down on the people. The people pointed that out and so they are being more cautious in their approach this time but I do think this is one of their tactics.

This has happened all over Europe, they have prepared for it and they want it, this is what the FEMA camps are for. Occupy yes, protest yes but do not engage in violence and every time you see the media drown them out vocally when they try to twist the truth.

The people are starting to wake up, the lion sleeps no more.

[fan1701]

Therefore, anyone that doesn't want to participate because of who may
be behind ought to get on their feet, go down to the protests and pass
out signs to disband the federal reserve, etc... and to get the tax laws
back to what they used to be.

I will , but not with this band of socialist , outlaws, and anarchist. I will do that with the TEA party . It makes a HUGE difference who is behind it. Those behind it have ill will for this country and I will oppose them at every opportunity.

As far as the Fed is concerned I agree totally. It is a criminal organization.

al

[Aaron]

occupy wall street

I will , but not with this band of socialist , outlaws, and anarchist. I will do that with the TEA party . It makes a HUGE difference who is behind it. Those behind it have ill will for this country and I will oppose them at every opportunity.

As far as the Fed is concerned I agree totally. It is a criminal organization.

al

I have friends that are protesting with everyone and they aren't
socialists, outlaws or anarchists.

The TEA party was a good idea then it was taken away from those with good
intentions like Ron Paul, etc... and is being run by fascists, outlaws and
wannabe dictators.

I see what you're getting at but you are still dividing people under the
false pretenses that the right is better than the left. The republican party
are a bunch of money grubbing lying crooks just like the democrats.
When people see they are two heads of the same snake, real progress
can happen.

Bush caused more hell and torment than Clinton and Obama put together
and Obama is rapidly on his way to taking the gold medal. Financially,
they have worked together on the SAME agenda to destroy the American
economy in order to make the rich richer and the poor poorer. That is the
ONLY agenda that the democrats and republicans both have accomplished
and the Tea Party is just a movement to use a bunch of honest conservatives
as puppets to "defend the constitution", etc... while simultaneously
working against their best interests.

Being pro republican OR democrat is only legitimizing and assisting the problem.

[mbrownn]

Aaron, you seem to have a good grasp of the situation

I likes the suggestion of one of Alex Jones's listeners, turn up at the fed wearing Ron Paul masks and scare the S*** out of them.

[fan1701]

I have friends that are protesting with everyone and they aren't
socialists, outlaws or anarchists.

The TEA party was a good idea then it was taken away from those with good
intentions like Ron Paul, etc... and is being run by fascists, outlaws and
wannabe dictators.

The TEA party protest had no violence , no trouble, period. You want to have a peaceful , non-violent protest then great I am all for it. If there is an agenda of anarchy , division, forced violence, and class warfare carefully planned out by groups attempting to destroy our nation in favor of some socialist/progressive system then I am out. It won't work and never works anywhere in the world. This group of folks are playing right to the game. I will not stand with them. This protest is violent , nasty , anti-government. The TEA party protest was non-violent , clean and pro-government. Not hard for me to figure out where to go.

I see what you're getting at but you are still dividing people under the
false pretenses that the right is better than the left.

There is no mention of whether I think the right or left is better in my quoted post...???? Even though I do have a party preference

The republican party
are a bunch of money grubbing lying crooks just like the democrats.
When people see they are two heads of the same snake, real progress
can happen.

Your right. The Repubs are crooked as the Dems. Repubs just get you to the guiotine a little slower. At least until this last bunch.

Bush caused more hell and torment than Clinton and Obama put together
and Obama is rapidly on his way to taking the gold medal. Financially,
they have worked together on the SAME agenda to destroy the American
economy in order to make the rich richer and the poor poorer. That is the
ONLY agenda that the democrats and republicans both have accomplished
and the Tea Party is just a movement to use a bunch of honest conservatives
as puppets to "defend the constitution", etc... while simultaneously
working against their best interests.

Bush is no longer the problem now we are two years past that. I would not give Bush a pass at all as he spent like crazy knowing better (among other things). He is no more at fault than Clinton as he raided social security to prop up the economy making himself look good. Obama has now spent more than all of them combined knowing that spending cannot fix anything when your broke unless your trying to accomplish what he has. A collapsing system.

The Republican party is attempting, with the help of the left and the media, to decide who will be the Republican presidential candidate. This will only lead to another pathetic loss to Obama just like McCain. Not that he was at all a good choice. This attempt to sway the choice ahead of time is disgusting and dishonest. The TEA party should be protesting the Repubs on their disgusting behavior in all this mess. The Republican party is long since hijacked and that is why they seem to be the same as the hijacked Dems now. The TEA party must replace the current Repubs and retake the party and get it back on track. The democrats in the TEA party must do the same to the democratic party. The founding documents are key to us not completely self-destructing but we must reset and remove much of this mess that has been done to us. If we loose our rights then we are lost. Most of them are in jeopardy or gone already.

Being pro republican OR democrat is only legitimizing and assisting the problem.

Not being pro Democrat or Republican sets us up for failure as not everyone is the same and we all differ some in the ways we think. Both parties need to be retaken by right thinking people restoring the intended balance and eliminating the socialist progressive infiltration on both sides that have slowly replaced the good people and brought all the massive debts, taxes (from social programs) , regulations and alterations to the founding structure of the country. Otherwise we are going to continue to have even worse problems than we are now.

Protests planned and backed by those that are responsible for all this mess in the first place seems to not be a direction that will workout well.


al

[Aaron]

political parties cause trouble

The TEA party protest had no violence , no trouble, period. You want to have a peaceful , non-violent protest then great I am all for it. If there is an agenda of anarchy , division, forced violence, and class warfare carefully planned out by groups attempting to destroy our nation in favor of some socialist/progressive system then I am out. It won't work and never works anywhere in the world. This group of folks are playing right to the game. I will not stand with them. This protest is violent , nasty , anti-government. The TEA party protest was non-violent , clean and pro-government. Not hard for me to figure out where to go.

There is no mention of whether I think the right or left is better in my quoted post...???? Even though I do have a party preference

Your right. The Repubs are crooked as the Dems. Repubs just get you to the guiotine a little slower. At least until this last bunch.

Bush is no longer the problem now we are two years past that. I would not give Bush a pass at all as he spent like crazy knowing better (among other things). He is no more at fault than Clinton as he raided social security to prop up the economy making himself look good. Obama has now spent more than all of them combined knowing that spending cannot fix anything when your broke unless your trying to accomplish what he has. A collapsing system.

The Republican party is attempting, with the help of the left and the media, to decide who will be the Republican presidential candidate. This will only lead to another pathetic loss to Obama just like McCain. Not that he was at all a good choice. This attempt to sway the choice ahead of time is disgusting and dishonest. The TEA party should be protesting the Repubs on their disgusting behavior in all this mess. The Republican party is long since hijacked and that is why they seem to be the same as the hijacked Dems now. The TEA party must replace the current Repubs and retake the party and get it back on track. The democrats in the TEA party must do the same to the democratic party. The founding documents are key to us not completely self-destructing but we must reset and remove much of this mess that has been done to us. If we loose our rights then we are lost. Most of them are in jeopardy or gone already.


Not being pro Democrat or Republican sets us up for failure as not everyone is the same and we all differ some in the ways we think. Both parties need to be retaken by right thinking people restoring the intended balance and eliminating the socialist progressive infiltration on both sides that have slowly replaced the good people and brought all the massive debts, taxes (from social programs) , regulations and alterations to the founding structure of the country. Otherwise we are going to continue to have even worse problems than we are now.

Protests planned and backed by those that are responsible for all this mess in the first place seems to not be a direction that will workout well.


al

Al,

I agree with almost everything you said.

Is everyone protesting against government or against corrupt government? There is a big difference.

By associating yourself with the Tea Party, you automatically distance yourself from the liberals and having the stance of your position on the matter being the moral high ground (implied by not wanting to engage in a violent protest, etc...), you are in fact putting yourself above the "left" thereby being from center to right.

Then there goes the whole distinction of what center even is anymore, should be center but in any case, you are in the conservative direction from the left.

I can't remember when a presidential election wasn't rigged and if we don't have a real third "party" or option, there is no real change.

your quote: "Both parties need to be retaken"

I strongly disagree.

Parties are what divide this country. People should vote for the person they think has the best character to do the job and most people vote by party, which is what people on programmed autopilot do.

You mention the founding documents - then I would encourage you to really study what the founding fathers really say about political parties - they are considered FACTIONS and divide the people and we were warned AGAINST moving in that direction.

We need people to stop falling prey to the gang mentality group dynamics, which democrats and republicans are SUBJECTS of. Again, it is divides the nation. Taking back parties that have divided the country for many generations isn't a solution and again, just my opinion, but keeps people divided.

I don't like "parties" and their agendas. Candidates should simply display what they are for or against and people should simply vote for the person they think is most qualified for the job.

People falling prey to political parties are like leaves blowing around wherever the wind happens to take them. They might get blown up onto someone's roof but then again, they might wind up in someone's gutter.

Like I said, I agree with most of what you said so not trying to argue, just putting in my 2 cents on political parties (factions according to our Founding Fathers).

[Pamela]

Here's one article I find particularly compelling.

Edward Murray: The Hidden Power of Occupy Wall Street

[Pamela]

Here's one of the first videos posted at the beginning of this "event" in late September. The well-heeled, cocktail-drinking group on the balcony observing the protesters below speaks volumes...

Faceoff at 55 Wall St. - YouTube!

[Pamela Vicik-Smith]

Just who are the 99%

These are the 99% - our family, neighbors, co-workers, people we play with, worship with, interact with. Ourselves...

We Are the 99 Percent

[timh651]

I see what you're getting at but you are still dividing people under the
false pretenses that the right is better than the left. The republican party
are a bunch of money grubbing lying crooks just like the democrats.
When people see they are two heads of the same snake, real progress
can happen.

I can't understand why more people don't see that this democrat/republican BS is nothing more than a false dichotomy. It doesn't matter who's in charge at the moment, they just appear to be adversaries to the public but behind closed doors they are all friends and follow a preset agenda. They divide the general public through the media with issues that are ultimately unimportant in the grand scheme of things.

This is a bit off topic but related. You know that revolution that they had in Egypt a while back? Seeing the people protest in the streets was inspirational but all the while I was thinking to myself "hey the hidden controllers aren't just going to give the people of Egypt self determination. They're going to continue to pull the strings from behind the scene somehow." All that's going to happen is that Mubarak will leave(I'm sure he has a cushy retirement waiting for him) So that turd gets taken out of the punch bowl just to let others float to the surface. I was thinking this to myself and later on youtube I stumbled on a David Icke video that confirmed my suspicions.
David Icke - The TRUTH About the Revolution in Egypt - YouTube