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  • #16
    Thanks, Kevin!

    That's great news! That settles it for me - I'm getting a Q-Link.

    I'm curious, Kevin - you don't use one?

    Ann
    Paths To Your Success

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    • #17
      TRV Qlink

      WOW! Very interesting Kevin. Been seeing the Q-Link for years. In the past I had a Teslar watch myself..sweeps across the earth frequency.
      Sincerely,
      Aaron Murakami

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      • #18
        Ok News in - Fist STOP!!!

        Hi all, thanx so much for you feed back, I had never thought I would be discussing the EMF thing on this forum.Life's funny like that.

        Ok, so, had meeting, on new info. Bottomline: Biopro Tec. is in my opinion a human interest company. More importantly is NEW TECHNOLOGY. Wait before buying an Q-link type goody- there is new technology, to be released soon...now....get this....to do with not only the Bio field, it also affords increased radiation protection due to???.....GLOBAL WARMING... I kid you not.

        The new currently available tec. is ERT the old one is SRT the soon to be released tec. is a resonant GEL substance, they are still finalising and firming up the specifics. Ray Grim & Alfred + their new scientific staff and crew are coming to South Africa later this year to do initial release (The Subversive Resistance Powers are not as strong here, we still get cell mast towers removed from schools) So hang on to your biofieds in the mean time this is going to be a biggie...kinda sorta 'Project 1 Worldly' in a synergistic way. Lots more to come but my typing speed hampers this process. (The human brain can regulate the bio field, Its just a good idea to have a shock absorber 24/7 when you’re not meditating)

        Ann-ticipatingSuccess, Sorry, I did not mean to insult you appliances, ‘all’ electric thing-a-ma-bobbies next to you read while sleeping is counter productive for you body (you only get one of those at a time)
        I say this in good humour as do not discourage enquiries or corrections with ridicule (I have to say this as you cant see me smiling at you..aww you blushing?)

        I do get fairly passionate on this topic as there are many people who had eletro-Kak next to their heads for most of their lives, then woke up one morning with a ‘tumour surprise’, that ruined their day from that point on. (it's when its the children. That really get me) Only one of these that I personally know of was able to be fixed without ‘cranial excavation’.(talking of an Adult now) Believe it of not the cure was NUTRITIONAL, that happened three year ago, she is still well and working. This is very real to me, I've lived it.

        So, my concerne for people I’m not even related to??
        Beats me, but I trust someone else will return the thought someday. Why suffer if you don’t have to?

        Weather-clock, whether-Cell phone the idea is Minimise Exposure.
        (think Boiling Frog Analogy)

        As cool as some of these technologies are, they are also expensive...

        Hold off for now if you can, it's going to yet a whole lot better. (personally, I'd love to give these things away, every one deserves the right to stay out of the medical industry) We’re no battery chickens!

        Joel
        Love, Light & a Booming Biofield
        Last edited by Joel; 09-22-2007, 04:31 AM.
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        • #19
          Food for though so long

          Yep all over the world, if your carbon based it affects you to...then again so does nutrition and nuclear warefare!
          Some readin material Brittish news. Daily Telegraph link ->

          Mobile phone study to establish long-term risks - Telegraph



          These rats were smater than humans and had to be forced to use a cell phone. This is a cross section of their tiny brains and the leasions as a result of the Forced radiation- Thank goodness they did not have Blue-Tooth ear peices...this way you can still see the brain.

          My heart goes out to all lab rats that unwillingly gave their lives to prove the obvious.



          My over all thought on the effects of EMF?
          [IMG][IMG]http://i229.photobucket.com/albums/e...ones_A_384.jpg[/IMG][/IMG]

          I'm sure you will agree
          Joel
          Love, Light an Glitter
          Last edited by Joel; 09-22-2007, 04:58 AM. Reason: megga oops..why do you ask?
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          • #20
            Hi Ann-

            The Q-link is good, but it is quite primitive in relation to the SCIO and PATHS RDT. Wearing one would not hurt, but it would be redundant.

            Joel- Great info on cells. Thanks. I do not use mine much, but when I do it is with a wired ear piece.

            Kevin

            PATHS For Healing
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            • #21
              Thanks Joel, in that case I will wait until the new one comes out. It is very good to receive such up to the minute advice, I appreciate it.

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              • #22
                Hi Kevin,

                Thanks for responding. How does PATHS protects us from EMFs? I was under the impression that you had to wear a physical device - or have one in your home - to protect you from them.

                Joel - thanks for sharing your knowledge again. I would love to be able to afford BioPro's products, but for now they are out of my reach. Their pendant - right now - is $269 compared to Clarus's $99.00. (I've found a place I can get them for slightly less, too) I'm sure the new technology will be even higher. So, for me, it will have to be the Clarus Q-link.

                Ann
                Paths To Your Success

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                • #23
                  QLink, Biopro do NOT protect from EMF

                  Originally posted by Ann-ticipatingSuccess View Post
                  Hi Kevin,

                  Thanks for responding. How does PATHS protects us from EMFs? I was under the impression that you had to wear a physical device - or have one in your home - to protect you from them.

                  Ann
                  The QLink, the Biopro Tec (old and new technology) do NOT protect anyone from EMF.

                  I can only think of 3 ways to protect oneself from EMF-

                  1. Live in a lead bubble
                  2. Live under water
                  3. Live on a deserted island




                  Here are some quotes from QLink:

                  What these devices are designed to do is "alleviate the discord in your body by reducing the effects of EMF".


                  Benefits of wearing the QLink Pendant include:

                  * Reduces the effects of EMF radiation
                  * Strengthens your resilience to the effects of stress
                  * Increases your energy and stamina
                  * Reduces the symptoms of fatigue
                  * Relieves the symptoms of jet lag
                  * Enhances your mental performance and alertness


                  Again, these devices do NOT protect from EMF, they try and alleviate the dis-ease in your body caused by EMF.

                  PATHS has modules that reduce stress (works with the autonomic nervous system), increases energy, increases immune function, increases mental performance, etc.

                  It would be nice if they made one Module that addressed all the issues that are affected by EMF's. As it is right now, it takes several different Modules to address the entire spectrum. My belief is that these PATHS Modules do a better job than any of these devices.



                  Kevin

                  PATHS For Healing
                  Energetic Science Ministries
                  Meditation at the Click of a Button, Guaranteed!


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                  • #24
                    Interesting read Kevin, thank you.

                    Can I ask which modules you'd recommend to cover those aspects please? The more important ones at least?

                    Thanks

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                    • #25
                      Originally posted by Kevin View Post
                      What these devices are designed to do is "alleviate the discord in your body by reducing the effects of EMF".
                      "Reducing the effects" is better than not reducing them, I guess. Thanks for the explanation, Kevin.

                      Sounds like a module specifically for reducing the effects of EMFs would be a good one to have.

                      Ann
                      Paths To Your Success

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                      • #26
                        Back again

                        Hi there Ann-ticipatingSuccess, Enerjette S.J. & Kevin

                        Great to read all the posts an FAQ's

                        He He, On my way down this page I saw Ann-ticipatingSuccess's question to Kevin about PATHS and EMF protection.. Somewhere on this site is a PATHS Module 'suggestion thread'...if you can find it, I suggested exactly that as a module its...just...cheaper...does not get wrapped around your neck while sleeping...and can't be stolen etc

                        Frankly, any ‘protection’ that ‘actually’ works is beneficial but before spending money, ask the sales guy to accompany you to a BEST test (Bio Energetic Stress Tech) a friend of mine made a mini stress tester made for this precice purpose it ran on a 9v battery, point is if they want to sell it to you, they should be open to a proper evaluation with some relevant service so as to be sure the proposed product works for ‘YOU’. (This why I can only talk about the Q-link, it worked for me, I did not take anybody's 'word' for it)

                        Oh, when I say ‘protection’ I am not suggesting a literal ‘prophylactic’ for your phone!

                        Were talking about harmonizing angular radiation waves emitted from a phone, picture this, the human biofield…. balanced energy environment where energy flows like gentle ripples on pond these waves are in harmony. Elecro-generated energy waves are angular and more like a row of little W’s , as they come into contact and flow through your body (oh yes a phone’s reception is as good on either side of your head) you smooth curved waves suddenly have little points or a different geometry, if you like, These disruptive waves start to set the pace, so naturally your body tries to compensate, trying to maintain their smooth and harmonious rhythm. That is the Stress… extra effort for your body to stay on track. Biofield Protection (STABILITY) helps your body maintain the flow, much like a cars shock absorber would typically protect the chassis from over stress, however, a shock absorber should never be thought of as a device to remove holes in the road.

                        A cell Chip would is supposed to smooth out and harmonise these angular wave forms so as to render them LESS disruptive to the natural flow of your body energy. Couple this thinking with a Q-link type product or system and you may save yourself a lot of bother.

                        This is the way I have come to understand the this very complicated issue, if this seems to simple to be true....you are probably right aswell...see LOA.

                        Joel

                        Aa this is a picture of the model of Q-link I have been wearing all this time.
                        Please note that it does not natter at all if a bit of string or a stainless steel chain is used, if your friends can see it or not, if it is under water and so on. I have also realised though experience that as long as this device is in contact with my energy...it still does the job. (a magnet on the opposite side of a plank will still have an effect on iron flilings) but by all means, do not simply take my word for it, as that may cause you to miss out on experiencing the truth for yourself (figure what happens when a child is told that a burning candle will hurt them...next minute when you turn your back, the natural tendancy of all humanbeings kicks in...Experience for yourself)
                        Joël

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                        • #27
                          Kevin's virtual Bomb Shell

                          Hi Kevin, hope all is good with you....and...OOH! you’re a dark horse! After I tippy type my way down all the way down a half meter of page with two fingers working in overtime…niex minute... in two simple statements, you now tell us that this has been in the PATHS technology alllllll this time??? (Are you sure???) And are you on those modules?? If so I am surprised and disappointed, as two ladies here and whoever else reads up to your point -> ‘SCIO and PATHS RDT. Wearing one would not hurt, but it would be redundant’. People are going to go out and spend money they don’t have, or need to spend at all?

                          Sorry if I seem a bit surprised, but getting a Q-Link (or any solution that worked) in the first place was a mammoth mission for me, the price made it prohibitive. So I researched Biopro a bit, then the idea to 'play rep' for a bit popped up as an obvious, low budget, means to an end. (I concider this to be a lucky break that is not a general solution for all)

                          The plan was to not only get part-time income whilst getting free training on a topic you won’t find in most night schools, but also to instigate the BIGGEST bonus, which was, that I got a Q-Link and Cell Chips as part of the deal….problem solved, so I know full well what its like to hear about the imminent danger from EMF but to have no affordable solution.

                          So, if PATHS actually have this programme already in progress(and this is more than possible, much like ‘fire walking’) I cannot understand the motivation for posting such a small notice 14 posts after the first Q-link question, and in two short lines. I mean we all got the info on Project 1 World.

                          Pleeeeeeeeeeeez pass on that kind of vital info on to us before someone spends new money on redundant technology. S.J was even scouting e-bay… and Ann-ticipatingsuccess went as far as researching pricing….etc etc

                          The danger of uncontrolled EMF is real for me,…as it is real for you -> Joel- Great info on cells. Thanks. I do not use mine much, but when I do it is with a wired ear piece. Which actually makes sense now as you are possibly active in that particular PATHS programming (I will be instantly jealous) and this would explain why you are not more concerned with using ear an piece, but, to the contrary, your post also indicates your possible doubt in this product, as you hinted at earlier, if indeed it is ‘safety’ aspect that motivates you to ‘not using your phone as much’ (If this is genuinely not the case, I apologize in advance, but ask for clarity on your statement to avoid further misinterpretations)

                          This info needs to be available for all those who have no supa-dupa ‘whatyomacallit’ to lessen their exposure to EMF frequency, the last thing they think about is that the risk of exposure does not ‘disappear’ when you have two little magnets on the end of some copper wire plugged into your head in 'stereo' like some kind of 'walking Arial’. (This little gem was pointed out to me only after merrily cruising about for 6 months, fully kitted out with my little slick hands-free, Q-link cell-Chip wondering why I was not yet ‘bullet proofed’ and still getting odd head aches I'd come to recognise)

                          I do see the similarities, energetic stress, health, skin, youth etc Its all the same to me, whether its achieved through programming the subconscious or using a device, diet / detox or even a crystal grid etc etc to smoothen out the effects of disruptive EMF waves on your personage,(whatever floats your boat) but most of all to ensure a balanced body and mind, so thank you for the information but I really feel that if you have any more detail (You are exposed to this info on a daily basis) I’d really appreciate if you ‘shared’ as anyone viewing this thread including the two of us, have absolutely no way of keeping up with all the many new technologies and discoveries daily(most labs do not host guided tours) in this diverse and expanding field of technology, as it screams head - long at a rate of knots way faster than planet X

                          I do hope that I am interpreting the posts so far, correctly. I do not doubt you expertise in anyway, as the position you hold at present confirms the validity of your statements.

                          Joel
                          Love, Light & Synergy
                          Joël

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                          • #28
                            Some Meat at last...sort of

                            Hi all, I finnally got it together...well some of it.

                            Firstly a suggestion: I think it would be a good idea to compile a list of myths and hard facts about where & what the actual threat is, and the list of viable and reputable solutions, checks & balances and options that are currently available, so as to save time for anyone, when getting knowledge on something so basic.

                            A shorter learning curve would have saved me a lot of bother therefore I'd hate for anyone else to endure the unnecessary schlep of filtering dodgy info, myths and allegations and thereby affording more time for living. (Don’t ask, it just makes sense to me that way)..

                            Ok, so what I know about Biopro (please don’t help me I feel like I’m being mistaken for a sales rep. NOT the case) There are many companies that will come on board as the market expands due to awareness.(Public read these pages too) One of these companies is Biopro, I happened to rep this product long time ago partly because I wanted some form of ‘protection’ ie. a device or system that nullifies the rapid acceleration of body stress from voluntary interaction EMF emitting devices, which to me means long hours in front of PC or with cell phone and with out the Head Ache.

                            Their previous products launch in pre-2005…Whereupon Ray Grim and Alfred Hanze were no longer were supplied their custom product by ‘Claris’, UK , they then subsequently opened shop in the US = The Bio-Life Pendant was borne, in addition to that product came a very ‘powerful’ (eases disruption to human energy) cell chip, called the Bio-pro Cell Chip, this this all developed from about 5 years ago, since then Bio-pro = Ray Grim and Alfred Hanzer (+ an assortment of Relevant Scientists) have developed many more products (but are not the only company to do so). At the moment it’s Nano-technology,....nano this and nano that! I have no further details, as my main focus is poverty alleviation, but I ‘do’ know the new technology will be launched later this year. (Alfred is the ‘technical’ man to speak to )

                            So I thought I’d try making an animated gif of the stills I captured from the video I shot all that time ago...soon after the point when I still thought cell phones were completely ‘Safe’ .It said so in the news papers!!

                            BIO ENERGETIC STRESS TECH… (I can’t remember if its Technology or Test…but I do remember filming the process and it just works) NOTE: there has been leaps and bounds in body stress analsis, (Lets not forget that the invention of a Zippo lighter did not disprove the benefits so many had enjoyed as a result of a simple match stick)

                            So as you see it’s a program run on a laptop, two electrodes (one you hold in your left hand) a qualified practitioner then prods your 'relevant points' with the other, a cell phone ‘switched on’ and is in a call, an assistant (no Q-links in the room as they effect the outcome from 1.5 meters away depending on who the assistant is, also Q-links had been removed the night before as you still tend to resonate for quite a while thereafter…come to think of it, if I was on a Q-link type PATHS Module….I would not have been able to partake in any of the experiments with sensitive equipment....can’t just ‘slip out of your module’ and leave it near the door.)



                            Point that really got me is that a secondhand ala hand-me-down cell chip that we pealed off my partners old phone (she used my knife to start with) then with the semi-mutilated vintage Biopro Cell Chip held against the phone as the assistant in turn held the phone against the right ear of our victim, as you can see this is a great thing for Biopro as even a trashed chip still has an effect but took 50 min to get up to speed (I don’t think they want to encourage this kind or recycling, same thing for second hand razor blades, may still cut but may cut you). Oh, key point: careful what you buy into, the chip we tested here were given out as an advertising campaign by the network provider and an SMS directory service….I’m sure that someone would have tested the product before scattering it on the public??

                            At this point please consider that if a secondhand cell phone chip can still balance the bodies energy or if you prefer, cause a device to be non disruptive, well then...
                            Just imagine what the newer technologies can do.

                            Enough said, EMF is a problem, but without problems there is no need for solutions, best thing to do is seek out viable solutions based on fact, yes it may require a bit of legwork, but whenever you get the chance TEST for your self.

                            E.g. A simple test to show the presence of EMF on the ground below overhead power lines, you'll need take a fluorescent tube + one x buddy with camera, then find, and stand under said power lines, firmly and securely clutching you florescent tube (oh pls make sure the tube works before you do this test)

                            Obviously lights are more visible at night so I suppose I should mention,
                            this test is a night activity test.

                            Soon after standing in suitable location, make sure your buddy is closel by with camera because the most amazing thing about to happen is…
                            with your face!

                            As your eyes pop and jaw drops to discover you are holding in your very hands a charged and glowing ‘Light Saber’ .(ala Star Wars)

                            By now you will be 'fully qualified' to say, yes, there is a **** load of EMF under power lines, whether I can taste, feel, see, hear, feel it….or not, as I have just lived it, it real for me.
                            (Pease don’t even dare to ask if tube test wont work if your wearing a Q-link as that will instantly qualify you as a 'Darwin Award' nominee, please keep these things in perspective it a Q-link not the Philosophers Stone).
                            Harry Potter rocks.

                            Ok, I've said my bit, but i have to thank Enerjette for showing me how to place graphics inside these posts. Thank you SJ. I can now bogg down the server with digital grafiti

                            Joel
                            Love, light &...yep that about all you really need. (I also think John Lenon rocks Hehe) Ok I'll shut up now.
                            Joël

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                            • #29
                              Another option

                              I've found another option for EMF protection. Thought I would share for those who are interested.

                              ewater.com

                              Ann
                              Paths To Your Success

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                              • #30
                                I think this is the same sort of the as Hexagonal Water

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