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  • #91
    Hello Doug, i've found the best way to take the 'elixir' is by way of a med:capsul. Jim humble mentioned it in one of the newsletters.
    I mix in a glass as usual, pull it into a srynge drop it into the open capsul, or capsuls depending on size, and down the hatch. Absolutely no smell no taste.
    Not really attacking any specific problem at the moment, but it must be tuning up my immune system ready for if needed. I recon you could take 2/4 drops by capsul all day long, no problem.

    Regards, Bren.

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    • #92
      Originally posted by brenie View Post
      Hi again Blackchisel, thanks for the quick reply. And good info:
      I am using some I got ready mixed here in UK, just annoys me I can't get the raw mats: just to give me a little extra control of the process.
      I would appreciate the Canada address, though mail charge even on 1LB will bump the cost up, but then, if you really believe in Jim H, then the cost is really peanuts. Now then what's this PM me? Step back in amazement!
      There's a lot about the net i'm not famillier with.

      Regards, Bren. Ps like General D's quote.
      Bren, I got my container of sodium chlorite for making MMS on ebay from a very good seller out of Utah in the U.S. You might check her out to see what shipping might be to UK - not sure if they do ship outside U.S. but it was a nice deal for here and came with the citric acid crystals, a dark blue bottle for storing MMS you make and instructions. Here's a link to the seller :
      here.
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      • #93
        One thing I keep thinking about regarding the chlorine in MMS--what about it's impact on the iodine receptors in the body, not just those in the thyroid?

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        • #94
          Originally posted by Athena View Post
          One thing I keep thinking about regarding the chlorine in MMS--what about it's impact on the iodine receptors in the body, not just those in the thyroid?
          As far as I know, there is nothing to worry about. Chlorine in such form and electron level is very selective as far as her "target". Pathogens and bacteria molecules have neg. charged membranes which get "pulled" away but everything is happening on the low level. Lower, than body cell can safely handle. Therefore, receptors aren't affected at all. The only molecules which will "suffer" are "foreign" ones, not "ours". From the same reason isn't recommended applying MMS right after meal containing meat, since meat will be treated as a foreign, thus it will get most of the attention from chlorine and oxygen. This may cause stomach discomfort and further lack of desired effect. MMS will be "depleted" - if we can call that, before it will get a chance to work on bacteria/virus.


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          • #95
            MMS Newsletter 9

            There is a Newsletter #9 available @ Jim's site - MMS Newsletter 009


            Vtech
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            • #96
              Thanks for posting that reminder about his newsletter. I hadn't checked there in a while. There is some important info for everyone using MMS in regards to the 15 drop protocol. Sounds like less than 15 drops is much better in most cases when taken more often. To clarify see the web site but it seems it's better to take less every hour or two than to use a big dose once or twice a day.
              I also found it interesting that the person who has been helping Jim Humble (Dr. Lias) is shifting his focus to alternative energy research. He even mentions possible funding for serious inventors in this field. Unfortunately (I think) he mentions fuellesspower.com as if that is some good example of alternate energy devices. I think most people have found this site is largely worthless and most of his plans he sells do not work well or at all.
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              • #97
                Originally posted by ewizard View Post
                Thanks for posting that reminder about his newsletter. I hadn't checked there in a while. There is some important info for everyone using MMS in regards to the 15 drop protocol. Sounds like less than 15 drops is much better in most cases when taken more often. To clarify see the web site but it seems it's better to take less every hour or two than to use a big dose once or twice a day.
                I also found it interesting that the person who has been helping Jim Humble (Dr. Lias) is shifting his focus to alternative energy research. He even mentions possible funding for serious inventors in this field. Unfortunately (I think) he mentions fuellesspower.com as if that is some good example of alternate energy devices. I think most people have found this site is largely worthless and most of his plans he sells do not work well or at all.
                Indeed, 2 drops should be the starting point especially if one never tried MMS before. MMS remains active (due to the activity or slow release of chlorine dioxide) approx. 1 -1/2 hrs. since this is a self sacrificing process; after pulling a few electrons from molecular membranes of pathogens, 2 mol. of water and 1 mol. of salt will form from it.
                Even if someone went up to 15 drops without any unpleasant effects before, it doesn't mean that next time, when there is more to remove from the body it will be no reaction such as diarrhea or nausea. Frequent, not exceeding 2hr small doses will provide constant supply of chlorine dioxide to be picked up by red cells and carried in the blood stream throughout entire body to detoxify and clean.
                Thanks for pointing this energy website. It skipped my attention. I think I have heard something about them before. Not good either. If I can confirm that, I'll call Jim and let him know.


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                • #98
                  The Empty Stomach sounds the best!

                  Hello gang,
                  Here's some info about what not to take around the time of ingesting the MMS. I believe it's an hour or two to wait for our body to process/disperse w/a lot of common foods/drinks. Let me know if that's right or not.
                  Douglas

                  New Protocol for taking MMS

                  Now, Jim has found out by practicing in Africa with different protocols that less drops more frequently is better than more drops less frequently. We used to think that chlorine dioxide lasted 12 hours in the blood. That is not true; it only lasts about 2 hours.

                  So, the very best protocol would be 2-3 drops every 2 hours 6 times a day with 6 drops before bed for 2 weeks straight.

                  1. Is your MMS a good solution? This is very important, because it will not work if it isn't the correct 28% solution. Where do you buy it? Are you mixing it correctly? 1 drop of MMS to 5 drops of a 10% citric acid solution (or a 1:1 ratio with a 50% citric acid solution). Are you using lemons or limes, or a 10% solution, or a 50% citric acid solution? Very important for potency.

                  2. Are you neutralizing the MMS or diminishing it's potency through anti-oxidants and foods. No vitamin C, nothing with vitamin C added. Coffee, green tea are antioxidants. Certain foods can diminished the potency of chlorine dioxide.

                  Here is a list of the MANY things that can render MMS ineffective, By Dr. Tom Hesselink, MD:
                  Incompatible Substances
                  Classified According To Reactive Groups:
                  • aldehydes
                  • enediols
                  • phenols & polyphenols
                  • anilines
                  • secondary or tertiary amines
                  • thiols, sulfides, disulfides
                  • transition metals in lower oxidation states
                  Note: Most drugs contain one or more of the above reactive groups.
                  A drug reference showing the structural formula must be consulted.
                  When in doubt do not take most drugs with these oxidants.

                  Incompatible Foods:
                  all ascorbates
                  all proteins, for example:
                  wheat germ, nuts, peas, beans
                  fish, poultry, meat, milk, eggs
                  most antioxidants, for example:
                  N-acetyl-L-cysteine, alpha-lipoic acid, SAME,
                  glutathione, quercetin, BHT, BHA, tocopherol
                  most B-complex vitamins, for example:
                  thiamine, riboflavin, niacin, pantothenic acid, folic acid,
                  para-aminobenzoic acid, cyanocobalamin, biotin, carnosine
                  most fruit especially berries, apples, oranges, grapes,
                  cherries, figs
                  most herbs, for example:
                  chocolate, green tea, coffee, turmeric,
                  silymarin, licorice, ginkgo, olive, cinnamon
                  Allium species:
                  onion, leek, shallot, garlic, chive
                  Brassica species:
                  cabbage, kale, broccoli, cauliflower,
                  turnip, mustard, wasabi
                  Asparagus species
                  Solanum tuberosum = white potato

                  Antioxidants can neutralize or diminish the potency of MMS. Just separate these types of foods and all meds by 3-4 hours to get the most benefit from MMS. Here is a list of foods highest in antioxidants. File:Foods highest in antioxidants.jpg - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia
                  "Most fruits especially grapes and berries are rich sources of polyphenolic antioxidants. Examples of herbs rich in antioxidant polyphenols are: chocolate, tea, coffee, turmeric, silymarin, licorice, ginkgo, olive.
                  Sulfur rich foods also eliminate chlorine dioxide if present in the stomach at the time of treatment. Examples include: garlic, onion, leek, asparagus, beans, peas, egg, milk and even white potato (due to alpha-lipoic acid).
                  Protein must also not be present in the stomach at the time of treatment. Proteins are made of amino acids which present an abundance of phenols, organic sulfides, thiols and secondary amines, which react with and eliminate chlorine dioxide on contact. L-tyrosine has a phenol group. L-methionine is a sulfide. L-cysteine is a thiol. L-tryptophan, L-proline and L-histidine have secondary amino groups. Certain B-complex vitamins are similarly reactive such as: thiamine, riboflavin, folate, pantothenate."
                  Read a more complete list at: http://bioredox.mysite.com/CLOXhtml/CLOXprot.htm.
                  Obviously, if you stay away from any of these foods during the MMS detox protocol then you will receive the most benefit. I know it is hard. These foods are very good and nutritious. Also, try covering the MMS with a coaster during the activation into the Chlorine dioxide ion. Then mix with water and drink it immediately. I swish my mouth with it at night - keeps the teeth clean and kills bacteria, viruses and germs. Most importantly you've got to go through the 3-4 week detox. Good luck!!!

                  All these factors have to be considered while you are taking MMS for any reason. The majority of people that have no success with MMS are either not taking the correct solution, mixing it wrong or neutralizing it through foods, vitamins or meds.
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                  • #99
                    Wow, that excludes just about everything I eat on a regular basis. I guess if I combined the MMS with the lemon juice/maple syrup diet for 2-4 weeks that would be good for detox. After that, maybe MMS first thing on waking, then eat two hours later, eat an early dinner, then MMS right before bed. I don't see how else (unless I radically changed my diet) I could fit the 2 hour after MMS before eating and the 3-4 hours after eating to take the MMS would fit into a 16 hour day with my normal 3 meals a day.
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                    • I don't think there is a need to drastically change your diet. Keep in mind that MMS remains active in your body for the period of up to 1.5hr, which also means its effectiveness gradually diminish in that time, being low in the last half an hour or so. Some food products (meat) require more than couple hours to break down and get "processed" but not all potentially neutralizing substances have such long "breakdown time. Thus, it is always better to take MMS and have your meal an hour, an hour and half after that, rather than heavy meal, which may contain elements interfering with MMS for much longer period of time and have to wait 2hrs+ before taking MMS. I agree on "empty stomach" and "before a bed time" applications being more effective. Same rule can be adopted for other medication which needs to be taken daily.


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                      Last edited by blackchisel97; 03-11-2010, 10:04 AM. Reason: edit
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                      • Newsletter10

                        There is a Newsletter10 available at Jim's site.


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                        'Get it all on record now - get the films - get the witnesses -because somewhere down the road of history some bastard will get up and say that this never happened'

                        General D.Eisenhower


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                        • Newsletter 11 has some very interesting news. He talks about ways to protect against forced vaccinations, forced insurance and so on. Please read it all the way through before jumping to any conclusions:

                          MMS Newsletter 011

                          They had a temp problem with their web site so the above link is a temporary location for the newsletter.
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                          • Hello ewiz, that 011 newsletter is pretty good i'd say, but folks should really go and research his other letters, and mms sites, i'm thinking if they come accross the religious bit without any background info: it couuld spook them a little.
                            I have no problem with the suggestions.
                            It's just a pity that getting too the Dominican republic is so costly from the UK, but maybe i'll get there, hope so, sounds like it all went well.

                            Regards, Bren.

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                            • Had my first toxic reaction to an overdose of MMS earlier this year. I knew by the smell when lifted the glass to my lips after letting it set that I'd made it far too strong (6 drops), so I only had a little sip (maybe 30ml) and poured the rest out. I was actually going to give a little bit to two other people but I said "this is too strong," and made a fresh glass.

                              Long story short, I felt growing, deep physical discomfort, mostly intestinal. I was mildly anxious about how much worse it was going to get, and just over half an hour later, vomited. Then again about another two minutes later. The other two guys were a bit concerned for me but I said, "No, it's ok, I'm just having a toxic response, I had too much, I'll be ok soon."

                              Within ten more minutes most of the physical discomfort had passed and I was confident that the vomiting had done the trick. It was overall a pretty unpleasant experience, but it didn't last long. Measured against the overall benefits of it's use though, no way has it stopped me from using MMS since, though I am much more careful with how much MMS I put in the mix. 2 drops is plenty for me.

                              I've also had a bit of an aversion to the smell since, so I hold my nose when I drink it now Does the trick.

                              (I use it to combat flu, since that the only virulant disease I ever suffer from, maybe once every three years or so if it's a bad year for it. Overall my immune system is in great condition, we just get really nasty viruses coming through, being a tourist hub in the tropics, once in a while a mutant strain starts to get it's hooks in .)
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                              • Hi Noises, yes that smell can really put a person off, Jim suggested somewhere that you could take it in capsul form.
                                Now that is what I do, completely gets round the problem of smell and taste.
                                Get some empty capsules, mix drops in small glass, 3 min wait, pick up drops in sringe place in cap: swallow with half glass of water.
                                Cap size number 1 or 0,
                                Cap 1 is the smallest, cap 0 (zero) is slightly bigger.
                                You are best using a citric mix= 50/50. this allows for one drop of mms and just one drop of citric. = to your normal one drop mms, plus 5 drop citric.
                                Look up Jims info: on the mms site

                                Regards, Bren.

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