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  • Originally posted by jibbguy View Post
    Nausea and Vomiting: Well known effects when "getting" the major kill-off of pathogens. Jim warns about this over and over, and has from the beginning. When using daily maintenance drops, this does not happen at all. People can also stop it quickly by drinking juice with Vitamin C in it. I have tried the idea Jim mentions to help with nausea, chopped up apples, and it helps (without neutralizing the MMS). This is a WELL KNOWN ISSUE FROM DAY 1 ; twisted to sound "dangerous". They are actually using psy-ops tactics here..
    Indirectly related with Hulda Clark, I think nausea and vomiting is a sign of cancer induced energy. The same you receive from cellphone, computer monitor, zapper, orac, cancer flusher, natural antibiotics, etc.

    I think everyone should do something when they experience that. There are many ways to counter it, including sun bathing at dawn. You have to learn odic force / radiant energy / orgonite / radionics for better solution.
    Last edited by sucahyo; 08-09-2010, 03:23 AM.

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    • The Sale Of MMS May Be One Step Closer To Coming To A Halt In The USA

      Over the past week or so, scrutiny has fallen upon MMS and the FDA has released an alert to its use. This course of events may lead to further action up to, and including, banning the sale of MMS in the USA. The ban would effect all of our customers worldwide!

      CNN has posted an article on this (CLICK HERE TO READ ARTICLE), and it is also referred to on Drugs.com | Prescription Drugs - Information, Interactions & Side Effects (CLICK HERE TO READ ARTICLE). It's ironic that drugs.com posts hundreds of serious side-effects on each and every allopathic, government approved, drug (many of these drugs even have DEATH as a side-effect), but they are (overly) concerned about mild, superficial, "side effects" like temporary stomach discomfort, throwing up, or being tired, seeing that these are minor "side-effects" compared to most of what is referenced on their site; for that matter, these are common symptoms of someone who is overcoming an ailment in the first place.

      Let us take a quick look at what “Adverse Reactions” have occurred with “clinically proven, government approved” allopathic medicines, including life threatening reactions…

      (1998) "Our study revealed that experiencing an ADR [Adverse Drug Reaction] while hospitalized substantially increased the risk of death (1971 excess deaths, OR 1.208, 95% CI 1.184-1.234). This finding reflects about a 20% increase in mortality associated with an ADR in hospitalized patients. Extrapolating this finding to all patients suggests that 2976 Medicare patients/year and 8336 total patients/year die in U.S. hospitals as a direct result of ADRs; this translates to approximately 1.5 patients/hospital/year."

      Source:

      C. A. Bond, PharmD, FASHP, FCCP and Cynthia L. Raehl, PharmD, FASHP, FCCP, "Adverse Drug Reactions in United States Hospitals," Pharmacotherapy, 2006;26(5):601-608.
      http://www.medscape.com/viewarticle/531809

      (1998) "3. The most obvious concern when dealing with drug safety is the possibility of lethal effects. Can the drug cause death?

      "4. Nearly all medicines have toxic, potentially lethal, effects. Drugs used in medicine are routinely given what is called an LD-50. The LD-50 rating indicates at what dosage fifty percent of test animals receiving a drug will die as a result of drug induced toxicity.

      "6. Aspirin, a commonly used over-the-counter medicine, causes hundreds of deaths each year.

      1. (1998) "Adverse drug reactions are a significant public health problem in our health care system. For the 12,261,737 Medicare patients admitted to U.S. hospitals, ADRs were projected to cause the following increases: 2976 deaths, 118,200 patient-days, $516,034,829 in total charges, $37,611,868 in drug charges, and $9,456,698 in laboratory charges. If all Medicare patients were considered, these figures would be 3 times greater."

      Source:

      C. A. Bond, PharmD, FASHP, FCCP, and Cynthia L. Raehl, PharmD, FASHP, FCCP, Department of Pharmacy Practice, School of Pharmacy, Texas Tech University Health Sciences Center, Amarillo, Texas, "Adverse Drug Reactions in United States Hospitals" Pharmacotherapy, 2006;26(5):601-608.
      http://www.medscape.com/viewarticle/531809



      2. (1996): "Each year, use of NSAIDs (Non-Steroidal Anti-Inflammatory Drugs) accounts for an estimated 7,600 deaths and 76,000 hospitalizations in the United States." (NSAIDs include aspirin, ibuprofen, naproxen, diclofenac, ketoprofen, and tiaprofenic acid.)

      Source:

      Robyn Tamblyn, PhD; Laeora Berkson, MD, MHPE, FRCPC; W. Dale Jauphinee, MD, FRCPC; David Gayton, MD, PhD, FRCPC; Roland Grad, MD, MSc; Allen Huang, MD, FRCPC; Lisa Isaac, PhD; Peter McLeod, MD, FRCPC; and Linda Snell, MD, MHPE, FRCPC, "Unnecessary Prescribing of NSAIDs and the Management of NSAID-Related Gastropathy in Medical Practice," Annals of Internal Medicine (Washington, DC: American College of Physicians, 1997), September 15, 1997, 127:429-438.
      http://www.annals.org/content/127/6/429.full.pdf
      Citing: Fries, JF, "Assessing and understanding patient risk," Scandinavian Journal of Rheumatology Supplement, 1992;92:21-4.


      And the FDA wants to ban MMS?

      At pennies per dose, MMS has helped hundreds of thousands of people overcome their health issues; anything from Malaria to allergies, from skin disorders to the common cold, from fungal infections to even burns.

      And the FDA wants to ban MMS?

      They may ban MMS and stop us from selling it, but they can't stop educated people from knowing about it, and they definitely can not stop you from using it when you need it.


      V
      'Get it all on record now - get the films - get the witnesses -because somewhere down the road of history some bastard will get up and say that this never happened'

      General D.Eisenhower


      http://www.nvtronics.org

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      • Nice info, m8

        What we may need to do, is produce it ourselves then. And then if you just take it yourself and not try to distribute it openly, that would not be illegal. After all there is not even a law against making Moonshine liquor; if you only drink it yourself and don't try to sell it.

        It would also be highly ironic, if there is huge calamity, or pandemic, or societal breakdown... and MMS is about the only thing available to help the sick people at the bottom of the food chain, the people who will be left to die in some government "triage" decision..... Such people would not be corporate executives, that is for sure, lol. They will the poor and "friendless" people left to die.

        If the government had ANY EVIDENCE AT ALL of MMS being toxic to humans in the recommended doses, or even that it was as dangerous as antibiotics (which pose a grave danger from bacteria mutating and becoming immune to it from over-use; not to mention having VERY SIMILAR side effects when taken in large amounts).... Then there would be plausible cause.

        There is only one plausible cause here, and it is quite blatant: Corruption and Graft. The protection of pharm corporations and the medical industry in general (including the private health insurance companies, who can only profit from having a large proliferation of SICK people around, otherwise people would not spend up to 15% of their income for it).

        This is several TRILLION dollars a year in the US alone... It's hard to calculate how much, considering how widespread the healthcare and pharmaceutical industries are now.

        Here we have an extremely cheap medicine, with no long term side effects or known serious risks, that can cure many of the diseases that poor people get and often die from.

        So the government's response is to make it illegal?

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        • Excuse me if I go over board here but I'm as heck. It's official now the FDA is trying to threaten sellers of MMS. It's even stated on the FDA web site that they "continue to investigate and may pursue civil or criminal enforcement actions as appropriate to protect the public from this potentially dangerous product." F*** the FDA!!!!!! I am not a seller but an order I just placed for some a week ago shows an update on that web site saying essentially they were threatened by the FDA so they aren't selling any more and are doing a voluntary recall. We need to start writing letters on this. This is going to be a showdown. I actually think it will be hard for the FDA to enforce or stop sellers as it is a water purifier and can be sold as such. But in the meantime at a time when awareness of MMS is just getting big it may stop many people from the health benefits it could provide so cheaply.




          for tolerating my rant
          There is no important work, there are only a series of moments to demonstrate your mastery and impeccability. Quote from Almine

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          • MMS 'Recall'

            I am an open minded guy and being health conscious will try most things within reason. It was cheap so I gave MMS a good shot (I went through the 'cleanse') however after this and taking into account considerable research, I'm still undecided.

            Quite frankly, it tasted like you were drinking raw chemical chlorine, (and I have no problem eating/drinking things if I know they will do me good), the nausea was overwhelming, (and I'm very fit and healthy, therefore unconviced this is a 'cleanse effect' as is claimed) and I sure wouldnt want to brush my teeth constantly with the solution (another wonderful claim) not unless you wish to have zero enamel remaining from the Citric acid.

            All in all, I don't think this is the best approach to a healthy body.

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            On a separate note some of you may be interested that most manufacturers (USA based likely) are now recalling the product. Read into this what you will. Some of you may get upset and claim it is a "FDA conspiracy" but having trialed the product and done the research, I think it is a chemical that can do more harm than good. Besides, all we have to go off are the writings of one man who CLAIMS to have 'cured' malaria (and AIDS) here and there with no real tangible proof except a few very outdated photocopied references.

            Relax....not everything is about the mysterious 'Cabal' out to do the world harm.

            Anyway the following is the recall I received in the email from 'XYZ Co' (which are actually not USA based anyway). Notice it is a VOLUNTARY recall at this stage.

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            URGENT: MMS Product Recall Notice

            Dear Customer,

            You are receiving this email because our records indicate you may have purchased a product called "MMS" from our company at some time in the past.

            Following discussion with FDA officials, XYZ Co is effecting an immediate voluntary recall of its sodium chlorite solution product labeled "MMS Professional - Miracle Mineral Solution - Premium Water Purification Drops".

            Questions and answers on voluntary recall of XYZ's sodium chlorite product:

            Q. What products are affected by this recall?

            A. Sodium chlorite solution, labeled as "MMS Professional - Miracle Mineral Solution - Premium Water Purification Drops" distributed by XYZ Co, LLC. This product comes in a 4 oz green plastic bottle. This recall is for all lot numbers.

            Q. Why was this product recalled?

            A. XYZ International, LLC is initiating this voluntary recall because of safety concerns raised by the U.S. Food and Drug Administration in regards to chlorine dioxide. As a precautionary measure, the company is recalling all sodium chlorite product, effective August 13, 2010.

            Q. What should I do if I resell or have ever resold this product?

            A. Quit selling this product and inform anyone you have sold this product to in the past by sending them a copy of this recall communication.

            Q. What should I do if I have some of this product?

            A. The FDA recommends that consumers stop using this product. Further distribution or use of any remaining product should cease immediately. If you have any unused product, you may seal the container and return it to the address provided below. Shipping account information will be provided upon request. XYZ will work with all customers to make them whole.

            If you have any questions or comments, please email XYz Co.

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            TP
            Last edited by teslaproject; 08-18-2010, 03:22 PM. Reason: typo :-P

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            • Hi Folks, don't let the FDA warning bother you, they usually wait for a few thousand fatalities before they do a recall!
              If there were a few they could blame on mms, don't you think they (FDA) would make it head-line news ?

              bren

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              • I agree, in the past they have made no bones about using whatever information they have against Alternative health products to attack them.

                We can safely assume that they have NO significant evidence for this recall and threats.

                Because if they did we would have seen it.

                Queasiness means the user was either having a large kill-off of micro flora (such as Candide yeast), or were taking too many drops at a time. Generally the kill-off induced effect is "one-time" for reasonably healthy people.

                The use of the word "bleach" is a misnomer.... It chemically is closer to table salt than chlorine bleach.

                There is no Nitric acid (HNO3), involved in MMS. There is Citric Acid that is used as the activating agent (C6H8O7).

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                • mms documentation and other interesting stuff

                  FDA DATA PROVES MMS KILLS DISEASES | www.eagle-research.com
                  Sincerely,
                  Aaron Murakami

                  Books & Videos https://emediapress.com
                  Conference http://energyscienceconference.com
                  RPX & MWO http://vril.io

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                  • Great Thread!!

                    Hi Sharyn,

                    Great thread!! Free E-Book available: Miracle Mineral

                    Best Regards,
                    Slovenia



                    Originally posted by Sharyn View Post
                    Another option to consider - Discovered by U.S inventor Jim Humble, you can download part 1 of his e-book for free from his site Miracle Mineral. Suppliers worldwide for the Miracle Mineral can also be found on this site. This is a very cheap & cost effective treatment & readily available throughout a number of countries.

                    Extract - "This Breakthrough can save your life, or the life of a loved one.
                    Please read.
                    The answer to AIDS, hepatitis A,B and C, malaria, herpes, TB, most cancer and many more of mankind's worse diseases has been found. Many diseases are now easily controlled. More that 75,000 disease victims have been included in the field tests in Africa. Scientific clinical trials have been conducted in a prison in the country of Malawi, East Africa.



                    Separate tests conducted by the Malawi government produced identical 99% cure results. Over 60% of the AIDS victims that were treated in Uganda were well in 3 days, with 98% well within one month. More than 90% of the malaria victims were well in 4 to 8 hours. Dozens of other diseases were successfully treated and can be controlled with this new mineral supplement. It also works with colds, flu, pneumonia, sore throats, warts, mouth sores, and even abscessed teeth (it's the only thing that controls and cures abscessed teeth).


                    The inventor believes that this information is too important to the world that any one person or any group should have control. The free e-book download on this site gives complete details of this discovery. Please help make sure that it gets to the world free. There are many medical facts that have been suppressed and this invention must not be added to that list. The name of the e-book is The Miracle Mineral Supplement of the 21st Century. This book tells the story of the discovery, and how to make and use it. This book can save your life. Give it a try"


                    I came across this site when looking for suppliers in Australia. I recommend looking at it for its ease of viewing all the relevant videos which I originally had spent quite a bit of time sifting through Youtube to find separately. Videos - Miracle Mineral Solution, The MMS Experience - Brisbane, Australia



                    Love, Light & Blessings
                    Sharyn

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                    • Another good reading on MMS

                      Well written and easy to comprehend - No Miracle, Just Wonderful Chemistry « Thought for Food


                      Vtech
                      'Get it all on record now - get the films - get the witnesses -because somewhere down the road of history some bastard will get up and say that this never happened'

                      General D.Eisenhower


                      http://www.nvtronics.org

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                      • Mms

                        Hi all,
                        I was wondering how you are doing on MMS now? Are you still using it? What has it done for you?
                        Thanks,
                        Grateful
                        for gratitude, Inika

                        http://www.pathsforlife.com
                        http://www.bemeramerica.com/inika
                        http://www.healingdance.org

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                        • Originally posted by Inika View Post
                          Hi all,
                          I was wondering how you are doing on MMS now? Are you still using it? What has it done for you?
                          Thanks,
                          @Inika Yes, I've been using it for the past year. I can report a few cases of cold, flu with all symptoms gone within 24-30hrs. Two cases of abscess tooth healed with all symptoms gone within 3-4 days. Great healing effects on cuts, burns and lacerations. Couple cases of migraine vanishing within an hour. I've been also using extensively as a disinfectant in kitchen, bathrooms, laundry and bedding after night. It works well as a deodorant. I always carry kit with atomizer bottle to clean my hands when I travel. It works great for me and those who became aware of it. I recently switched to 50% citric acid (I also use lemon juice) which allow me to mix 1:1 and reduces activation time down to 30sec instead of 3 min. I use small 2 drop doses unless I prepare disinfecting solution to be used with atomizer. In such case I do 6 drops and 4oz of water. Solution in atomizer slowly loses potency but it is still effective for the day.

                          I hope this helps


                          Vtech
                          'Get it all on record now - get the films - get the witnesses -because somewhere down the road of history some bastard will get up and say that this never happened'

                          General D.Eisenhower


                          http://www.nvtronics.org

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                          • All as you do is the same as they did for black salve, say its flea remover for your dog do not say its for human consumption . Then we work on votes to get the FDA.

                            Ash

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                            • Not sure if this is old news.
                              Jim Humble Speaks - FDA Warning on MMS

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                              • Hi Moe and all. Y4es it is old news but well worth a read. The fda on in attack mode, upto all their usual tricks, but nothing new on Jim Humble. If they had something relevent it would be headline news, worldwide headline news.
                                Would'nt they just love the headline ' baby fed mms grows two heads!' 'dog goes mad and attacks owner after smelling mms!'
                                But lets not kid ourselves fda and like organisations will stop at nothing in their attempts to close down anything they and their paymasters can-not control.
                                Has anyone on this site attended Jim's school in Dominican Republic, if so lets have some feedback please.

                                Regards, Bren.

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