A doctor tried to kill my father in law this weekend

[Kevin]

Last week my father in law was rear-ended in his truck.

He spent the night in the hospital, they released him the next day saying he was ok with just bumps, bruises and strains.

They gave him a prescription for some pain medication, which he started taking this last weekend.

He was over at our house yesterday for Fathers day...he was pretty sore, but we had a nice afternoon.

I did remind him of how many people are killed by doctors mistakes every year, and that he should take some personal responsibility regarding his health. But he is one of those old school types that think Doctors are gods.

Last night he called 911 because he could not hardly function. An ambulance came and took him to the emergency room.

We picked him up this morning.

Turns out the doctor made an error in writing the prescription, the people in the emergency room said he was lucky to still be alive!

I hope this has opened his eyes to the fact that we each need to take personal responsibility for our health and not blindly trust doctors and drug companies whose interest is in treating, NOT healing.

Ref: Link- http://www.energeticforum.com/health...rspective.html

[wpage]

Read the Label

Doctors are just like us...

They make mistakes frequently and so do druggists. Always check and watch out for elderly when you can help

[Kevin]

Doctors are just like us...

They make mistakes frequently and so do druggists. Always check and watch out for elderly when you can help

wpage,

I generally find your posts to be enlightening, thought out and always look for them.

In this post that you made I take a MAJOR EXCEPTION!

You say doctors are like us....I agree, they SHOULD be like us, BUT they do not act like they are us, nor do they expect US to treat them like US.

Example: Almost every other profession does not expect blind faith from their customers. If you encountered an appliance representative when shopping for a hot water heater, and that representative treated you like most doctors treat their customers, you would be appalled.

With some research you could know there are many brands of hot water heaters, some gas, some electric, some with storage tanks, some on demand, some cost less initially but use more energy, some with longer warranties than others, etc.

A good appliance representative will respect you and educate you on all the pros and cons and help you make a decision that YOU, as an informed individual, believe will best suit your needs.

Most doctors on the other hand do NOT give this common courtesy to their customers. Instead they act/play god and arbitrarily try and force you to bend to their judgment (which is probably not a judgment, but simply a parroting of what they have been taught by a corrupt medical/drug organization). They do NOT educate, but bully their customers to do what may not be best for them.

IN ADDITION, the medical/drug powers have spent billions over the decades to promote the idea that Doctors are NOT like us. That Doctors are special, they have many years of training, they know and understand stuff we cannot know or understand and we MUST follow their directions. Not following could be a risk to our lives.

IN ADDITION, most of us do not make many decisions each hour that can have a life or death effect on our customers. Doctor do.

SO, Doctors are NOT like us:

• They have a FAR greater responsibility to their customers than most of us do.
• They are far ruder to their customers than most of us are with our customers.
• They hold a position in society that has put them on a pedestal where the common person will not question a doctor like they would an appliance representative or a car sales person.
• They make life and death decisions far more frequently than most of us.

SO, NO, DOCTORS ARE NOT LIKE US.

I agree with you that we should check and watch out for the elderly, BUT, BUT, these same elderly people seem to have even MORE blind faith in rude, selfish, and many times ignorant doctors than younger generations, and they simply will not entertain the concept that the doctor might have made a mistake.


btw, the label was read and it said to take one every hour

[Mad Scientist]

Here is another one of these medical oop’s

About a year and half ago a friend of mine, a guy in his mid 70’s, was complaining a shortness of breath. He found it to be annoying but nothing that he couldn’t handle, it’s not like he was out trying to run the four minute mile. Anyway his doctor runs a bunch of tests and it’s determine that he has partial blockage of some heart arteries and this in turn is prevent him from getting sufficient blood to his lungs which then caused the shortness of breath.

The solution - he needed heart by-pass surgery. He was not thrilled at the prospect of having this done. But “everyone” told him it was needed and must be done, plus it has been done thousands of time so there is nothing to worry about. Reluctantly he agreed.

And as predicted the heart surgery went without any problems. However in the process of inserting a breathing tube they managed to punch a hole in his esophagus and the resulting infection from this killed him!

[dambit]

Hi,

I tend to agree. I have endured three lots of open heart surgury in my life and through all of this I have learned a few things.

1 - 99% of surgeons are great, unless there last name is Patel (an Indian doctor who worked in Australia that didn't believe in anesthetic)

2- GP's and specialists are overpaid drug pushers.

3 - Nurses are overworked, underpaid and because of this make lots of mistakes.

4 - Technology improves but the food doesn't

I was fortunate enough to figure this out at an early age and as a result I have NEVER had a GP. I am in near perfect health and on the very rare occasion that I do get a cold, I take natural alternatives. I have also never been and never will be inoculated for the flu. It's just full of mercury and other crap you really don't need. Same goes for the soon to be released swine flu shot. Such an over reaction, and all it has done is increase the price of tamiflu stocks.

Cheers,

Steve

[ImBill]

My own recent story... I had my prostate gland checked last week and the doctor said it was swollen. I told him that I didn't have much in the way of symptoms, just that for the past six months or so, I've had to start getting up once during the night to urinate. I told him that in the past, my habit was to never drink anything after dinner but that after a urinary tract infection, I drink whenever I get thirsty and pretty much drink water every night after dinner now. When I asked him about lycopene (which I've read helps reduce the swelling), he said it hasn't been proven to be effective. He suggested Avodart. I incredulously asked if he was serious, start taking a drug to avoid getting up once during the night? Oh, yes, he was serious. I'm wondering, how detrimental can two-three minutes of lost sleep be?

[Kevin]

My own recent story... I had my prostate gland checked last week and the doctor said it was swollen. I told him that I didn't have much in the way of symptoms, just that for the past six months or so, I've had to start getting up once during the night to urinate. I told him that in the past, my habit was to never drink anything after dinner but that after a urinary tract infection, I drink whenever I get thirsty and pretty much drink water every night after dinner now. When I asked him about lycopene (which I've read helps reduce the swelling), he said it hasn't been proven to be effective. He suggested Avodart. I incredulously asked if he was serious, start taking a drug to avoid getting up once during the night? Oh, yes, he was serious. I'm wondering, how detrimental can two-three minutes of lost sleep be?

Hmmm, which would I rather take?

Lycopene: Benefits, Side Effects, Sources and Supplements

Avodart Side Effects

[Moria]

Some years back, my Wonderful father started to get some problems with swallowing meat, he also very slowly started to lose weight. (My father was a Big man, not in weight particularly, but in size.)
He went for regular check ups with his doctor (a fairly young one, I might add) and found out that his liver analysis showed to be quite high. My dad's doctor told him to be careful with the alcohol intake, not knowing that my father hardly had any alcohol at all. He might have had a whiskey or two around Christmas, and a 'light' beer with dinner, once in a blue moon.
But, my father grew up believing that whatever your doctor told you was the truth, so despite that the doctor cautioned him about the alcohol, which he really didn't drink, my father didn't question him.

My father had to go in for an X-Ray, not sure what it's called but it X-Ray's every level of your body. Then we heard nothing from the hospital for awhile, only to be told some 3 months later that they had misplaced the results from the X-Ray, so when we finally managed to get an appointment, they told my dad is was too late, that he would only have a couple of months to live. My father walked into the doctors office, feeling confident, and some 10-15 minutes later came out from the office a beat man, he had lost all confidence in his chance of surviving this.

They expected him to live to around August/September, but my dad said; 'I will spend Christmas and my Granddaughter's birthday (my daughter) as well as New Year with you all.... he 'died' on January the 5th.

Had they told him to look for alternative treatments (he wouldn't have listened to us about this, but he would've listened to his doctor), it truly could've made a difference.

Fast forward: My sister was diagnosed with lung cancer in December 2004. She was diagnosed with the 'worst' kind, something she did'nt realise, something that is seen as 'incurable' (curable from within) but as I had a look at the diagnosis they gave on the Internet, I got some additional information. At the time I was told by a friend to give my sister Essiac Tea and Apricot kernels, which I did, and suddenly things changed within her. The doctors couldn't understand why her tumors suddenly disappeared and asked her if she did some additional treatments. She told them about the tea and kernels and they said, whatever you're doing, keep it up.

My sister is going for her last major X-Ray in October, and after that, 5 years later, she will be 'declared' cancer-free.

In my opinion, I don't believe it has to do with whatever treatment you're going through, I believe it has to do with our mindset/beliefs, and honestly, I really don't care, as long as it works. I'd suggest everyone to read The Holographic Universe, as well as looking into Matrix Energetics, Theta Healing and Chinese Energetic Medicine, among other things, and above all, to trust that our bodies know how to heal!

Moria x

[ImBill]

Hmmm, which would I rather take?

Lycopene: Benefits, Side Effects, Sources and Supplements

Avodart Side Effects

EXACTLY! After just a little research yesterday, I found that I can get several months' supply of selenium, vitamin C, vitamin E, saw palmetto, zinc, and beta-sitosterol for less than one month's supply of Avodart or Flowmax or pretty much any of the drug companies' medicines. Even the "natural" remedies are more expensive than buying the components separately. All of these, when taken in moderation, have little or no side effects for anyone and most are stuff I should probably be taking anyway.

[ImBill]

Moria,
Sorry to hear about your dad and overjoyed for your sister. It's hard for us to overcome this illusion of separation as we have invested so much time into it. Every day I find myself getting closer to oneness but also realizing at the same time how much effort it's going to take to reach that goal. It's so easy to egoically say or realize that there is only one thing in the entire universe and, at the same time, so overwhelmingly difficult to abandon the ego and embrace the oneness. Thank me (and you) we've put so many useful tools in our hands and minds to make the transition possible. I quite often find myself wishing there was a switch, though.

[DrStiffler]

Exceptions Exist

@All
At some point in the history of our existence, 'profit' became primary to all desires. This is a strange statement when the world population escalates at such a high rate, but maybe we must consider where this is happening and why, like under educated third world, sorry did I say USA.

Anyway the medical profession is like the police. Cover your partners ass. There are more people killed, yes killed by doctors and hospitals than any other cause. Why? well they never release that do they and if they do does the media supply it to you?

Doctors (MD's) have a valued place in our society, we would not be where we are if they did not exist, (But) the idiots must be cast from the profession, period.

If some MD tells you he/she knows best, run like hell, its your body and you have a right to determine what happens. Now if you are not capable of making decisions, you need to find the right help.

People, its like 'Tech Support', they live by script. Prepared education and you the receiver are the dot at the end of their sentence.

I am not an MD, but yes I fight them tooth and nail. Its you and your body that heal 99% of the time.

[Kevin]

People, its like 'Tech Support', they live by script.

Very good analogy. It is as if all common sense has been purged from their thought process, and all that is left is the script.

Most all of us have experienced it when calling a tech support line.


As I have done in many other posts on this subject....I do give western (allopathic) medicine BIG KUDO's in the Triage arena, and of course there are exceptions with Medical Doctors....BUT, they are the exception.

[future pather]

It is as if all common sense has been purged from their thought process, and all that is left is the script.



I don't blame the dr.s as much as I do the pharmaceutical companies funding the "research" which establishes the norms in our health care industry.

I'm sure most or maybe all dr.s study medicine with the sincere desire to help others. Then they must invest a ton of time and money, so busy learning what they must to pass that they don't really have time to consider other ideas.

Then when they get into practice, they find that they are too busy for anyone's good and also not equipt with very good solutions to offer to sick people. They may put off diagnosing someone for that reason plus how insurance can get more expensive and be harder to obtain once a diagnosis is attached to someone.

And if they make suggestions outside of the script, they can be sued and possibly lose their means of survival. They can be sued for following the script but it's much easier to defend a malpractice case when you are just doing what everyone else does.

I understand the frustration with the current situation. I just think most dr.s have good intentions and are victims themselves.

[Kevin]

It is as if all common sense has been purged from their thought process, and all that is left is the script.



I don't blame the dr.s as much as I do the pharmaceutical companies funding the "research" which establishes the norms in our health care industry.

I'm sure most or maybe all dr.s study medicine with the sincere desire to help others. Then they must invest a ton of time and money, so busy learning what they must to pass that they don't really have time to consider other ideas.

Then when they get into practice, they find that they are too busy for anyone's good and also not equipt with very good solutions to offer to sick people. They may put off diagnosing someone for that reason plus how insurance can get more expensive and be harder to obtain once a diagnosis is attached to someone.

And if they make suggestions outside of the script, they can be sued and possibly lose their means of survival. They can be sued for following the script but it's much easier to defend a malpractice case when you are just doing what everyone else does.

I understand the frustration with the current situation. I just think most dr.s have good intentions and are victims themselves.

Jessica, I believe your analysis is pretty close to the bullseye.

It is a catch-22 for doctors, who for the most part start out with good intentions, but then get in so deep they either have to risk the investment of their education/income for the good of their customer, or be good sheeple and follow the rules, many times at the expense of their customer.

Some of the docs may be so brainwashed that they actually believe they are doing the best possible....these are the ones that have lost their common sense/reasoning ability.

Other docs know what they are doing, but choose, sometimes at the expense of the health of their customer, to protect their own livelihood.

It is our individual responsibility to NOT turn over our health to a doctor, but to use their knowledge as a resource in taking care of ourselves. Yes, we may sometimes use their services, but knowing that they are in a catch-22, we would be fools to trust them with our health.

It may seem like a crude analogy, but if you think about it, it is really pretty accurate....they (docs) are like mechanic for the body. If my truck starts acting up, I am going to probably get several mechanics to look at it and get some sort of consensus between them and my own knowledge/research before I let one of them start working on it.

[rhozzi]

for Moria...

Moria, What was the Essiac tea and apricot protocal? Drink how much every day? Take how many apricot kernals ( I take it those are inside the hard apricot seed shell) a day? On empty stomach, etc.????