Colloidal silver generator , different approach

[shawn]

So, to be accurate, this thread should be entitled ionic silver generators.

[shawn]

Some good info found here:
Frequently Asked Questions (FAQ) - Purest Colloids
But they do not discuss any of their manufacturing details.
So, the how is still a mystery.

[sucahyo]

This is rather a discouraging find.
It seems that ionic silver particles are somewhat effective for bacteria and other large pathogens, but the particle size is too large to do anything about virus's.

This may misleading. If you read Rife's work. Virus can change shape as big as bactery sometimes. And also, it do not have to choke the virus mouth to kill it. There are publication that mention copper will kill bacteria in its surface in two hours. Silver is better than copper, and surely kill it too on sight. It may even work without having to ingest it.

[shawn]

You may be right sucahyo, but that doesn't address the issue of ionic silver being unstable and highly reactive.
So when ingested it can react with numerous other compounds in your system and it changes rapidly, thus providing limited benefit as a result.

So the true colloidal silver would seem much more efficacious than ionic silver.

Ionic gold, as it turns out is actually a neuro-toxin which is the opposite of what colloidal gold is.
I was planning on making a generator, improving on the old design I used before, but this new data has caused me to rethink that and I would far more prefer to determine the methodology behind making a true colloid as opposed to an unstable and potentially harmful ionic solution.

[sucahyo]

"facts" are conflicting....

[shawn]

"facts" are conflicting....

What do you mean?

[sucahyo]

What do you mean?

Everyone use word "facts" for their argumentation. Fact that eating silver is save, fact that eating silver produce disease. Fact that eating silver help, fact that eating silver do nothing. Fact that you need to produce in colloid form, fact that you need molecular, fact that you need ionic, fact that you only need crude granulation.

They all have witness and testimony.

From computer technician point of view (me), don't fix thing if it work, you may break it .

[shawn]

Everyone use word "facts" for their argumentation. Fact that eating silver is save, fact that eating silver produce disease. Fact that eating silver help, fact that eating silver do nothing. Fact that you need to produce in colloid form, fact that you need molecular, fact that you need ionic, fact that you only need crude granulation.

They all have witness and testimony.

From computer technician point of view (me), don't fix thing if it work, you may break it .

That is a fact
Personally, I would like to weed out the distortions and the misinformation so that I actually am working with facts, as those are the only things of merit.
I have bought plenty of snake oil in my life as the hype was good and they had all the props (meaning testimonials and such).
So now, I think more about things before I do anything with them.

One fact I have learned is that I live on a planet which is full of many kinds of liars.....some don't really know they are liars as they are passing on heresay with good intention that they themselves have believed in their gullibility and naivety, and others are lowdown sneaks who are fully aware of what they do.

So it is good to verify things fully before you commit to a project or spend large sums.

That is where interactive forums can be very helpful...depending on the people involved.

[sucahyo]

Yes, we learn that legit may actually scam and scam may actually legit. Reference from someone we know is always better than any commercial .

[gmeast]

confusion

Yes, we learn that legit may actually scam and scam may actually legit. Reference from someone we know is always better than any commercial .

Hi,

I've become very interested in CS of late and have come across many good and not so good references and countless conflicting references. I found the following article ringing fairly factual when it comes to chemistry. The article is on one of my sites here:
http://02d1852.netsolhost.com/plasma...rChemistry.pdf

I also have a picture of a 'Metallic CS Generator" I made that relies more on the way mother nature might make CS. That picture is here:
http://02d1852.netsolhost.com/plasma...r/rockajar.JPG

The 'rockajar' is exactly what it appears to be. There are two small black granite smooth river stones and 4 silver bars made from two ingots each sliced down the middle. The stones just keep the silver moving better as the jar 'rocks' back and forth. The teeny, tiny colloidal particles are generated by 'burnishing', iow - the silver bars gently rubbing across one another. You run it for about 4 days and then centrifuge out the work-hardened silver flakes. You end up with a very clear, silver colloid ... and it is absolutely Metallic colloidal silver. Of course you can't use a TDS meter to test the PPM because it is totally non-conductive. But shine a light through it or shoot a laser and you'll get a strong Tyndall cone and very heavy Brownian Particle Motion as seen illuminated by the laser. It has a slight but noticeable metallic taste to it.

My escapades in the kingdom of CS is somewhat documented on my YouTube channel. Just type "gmeast" in the YouTube search bar and all of my videos will pop up. The latest ones show the metallic stuff.

Greg

[sucahyo]

The stones just keep the silver moving better as the jar 'rocks' back and forth. The teeny, tiny colloidal particles are generated by 'burnishing', iow - the silver bars gently rubbing across one another. You run it for about 4 days and then centrifuge out the work-hardened silver flakes. You end up with a very clear, silver colloid ... and it is absolutely Metallic colloidal silver.

Very interesting method .

A bit worry about metallic taste. Would exposing it to sunrise/sunset reduce the taste?

I think the water need to be researched too. Do distilled really much better than original spring water?

[gmeast]

nothing affects it ... real cool stuff

Very interesting method .

A bit worry about metallic taste. Would exposing it to sunrise/sunset reduce the taste?

I think the water need to be researched too. Do distilled really much better than original spring water?

The taste is very slight ... almost not noticeable. I have set it outside on the direct sunlight with NO affect on anything ... color or taste, etc.

Did you check out my video showing the cone and laser?

Have a nice day,

Greg

[gmeast]

water

Very interesting method .

A bit worry about metallic taste. Would exposing it to sunrise/sunset reduce the taste?

I think the water need to be researched too. Do distilled really much better than original spring water?

Hi,

I know you don't want any silver compounds that form from the silver and any minerals in the spring water. But then again, what if spring water from some special place contained a mineral, or combination of minerals, when electrolyzed produced a miracle substance that cured everything ??

With my mechanical method, the water should not matter. But for ionic CS (made with electricity) I think the less stuff in the water is better.

Greg

[gmeast]

...also my programable current control device

Hi all,

I just wanted to add that as well as grizli's proposals, it seems important that whatever you do, if you are using electricity you need current control based on 1/2 the area of your silver. So you need a programmable current control to do that.

So, to sum up, the things I view as significant from my research are summarized by the following:

http://02d1852.netsolhost.com/plasma...rrentmagic.JPG
http://02d1852.netsolhost.com/plasma...rChemistry.pdf
http://02d1852.netsolhost.com/plasma...r/rockajar.JPG

thanks for viewing

Greg

[charly2]

I've build the circuit attached to control the current, even it is dc works really good. It is very simple and cheap.
I use the 32 dc wall adapter from a hp printer for 1 hr to get arround 10ppm, at the begining the measure volts between electrodes is almost 31.8v, after 1 hr drops to 8 or 9v.
But the important thing is the constant current, in my case I set the circuit up for 0.0008a/in2. And the water is completely clear.
Regards to all.