Colloidal silver generator , different approach

[sucahyo]

The taste is very slight ... almost not noticeable. I have set it outside on the direct sunlight with NO affect on anything ... color or taste, etc.

Is it dawn sunlight? It should produce the same as putting water on top of north pole.

Did you check out my video showing the cone and laser?

Cool .

With my mechanical method, the water should not matter. But for ionic CS (made with electricity) I think the less stuff in the water is better.

I wonder if people thousands years ago that make silver colloid with distilled water...

Are there comparation on different type of CS effect to people?

To make comparation fair I think all should be exposed to running cellphone for at least 15 minutes. That way no one using orgone kind of cheating. And also eliminate the possible difference of distilled water way of processing. Distilled water should be processed around big machinery that produce all kind of electrical polllution isn't it?

I've build the circuit attached to control the current, even it is dc works really good. It is very simple and cheap.

Nice . I wonder if it work for radiant electricity too...

[bolt1]

i been making silver for many years. I use a laptop PSU 19volts and a 1k resistor it works perfectly. I heat the water up in the microwave first just once then i take the brew up to a very light straw color this is between 10-15 ppm. Any more than straw yellow thru dark yellow and beyond i don't drink it but use it for anything else. I can make 4 pints in 2 hours. I use 6 stage reverse osmosis and the TDS is always less than 2 so its pretty much 100% pure water.

NEVER use tap water or bottled water. Most bottled water has more **** in it then tap water.

Silver is EXCELLENT for direct contact problems. Its good for athletes foot, burns, colds squirt up your nose rids a cold or flu within 12 hours and you can do this every couple of hours literally within minutes nose unblocks, sores, spots, ear infections, nose, sore throat, itchy scalp, psoriasis , sore eyes and eye infections, gum disease, bad breath, tooth infections and via nebulizer for chest infections and anything else where you can get direct contact.

Silver is not so good for internal body problems its never really gets to where its required. Better to use beck zapper, pulser, and MMS chlorine Dioxide and either MMS2 plus DMSO this is a major cancer treatment. There isn't really a one glove fits ALL but with a few tools to hand you overcome almost anything.

Don't be put of by the "blue man" its a hoax no one goes that blue and to do it you need silver nitrate salts around 1500 PPM for years!

[gmeast]

current

I've build the circuit attached to control the current, even it is dc works really good. It is very simple and cheap.
I use the 32 dc wall adapter from a hp printer for 1 hr to get arround 10ppm, at the begining the measure volts between electrodes is almost 31.8v, after 1 hr drops to 8 or 9v.
But the important thing is the constant current, in my case I set the circuit up for 0.0008a/in2. And the water is completely clear.
Regards to all.

Hi,

Yes ... Great ! The 334/234/134 used as a current source is great ... one of the first circuits I made into a field programmable one. Unfortunately it is also a good temperature sensor without any TC and as you know is why the TC diode and resistor is needed when used as a current source. I am using a new, dedicated current-source IC that is TC compensated internally, making it much easier to turn into a programmable device.

I see you are at 0.8mA/in2. I have been at 1mA/in2 and can easily turn it light yellow (too easily).

I'll drop to 0.8mA/in^2 and try that. As is well known ... the quality of the distilled water is sooooooo important ... varies from vendor to vendor ? how does that work ? thought distilled water is distilled water !

Have a nice weekend,

Greg

[charly2]

I'll drop to 0.8mA/in^2 and try that. As is well known ... the quality of the distilled water is sooooooo important ... varies from vendor to vendor ? how does that work ? thought distilled water is distilled water !

Have a nice weekend,

Greg

Well, about water, I allways use medical grade water this is because is the only destilled bottled water I have found near my house. I have never tested another one, but definitely the water quality is very important (and of course the silver).
Reading the article CS Chemistry, in the 2nd method it is mentioned that the water must be almost boiling to produce true CS. Here I got a question.
Do you know if is possible to get this true CS by just boiling the common ionic silver?

And Suchayo, for the radiant electricity, I dont know if is possible using this component, I was thinking more in something like a modified PWM to produce pulsed controlled current, just an idea.

Regards.

[sucahyo]

And Suchayo, for the radiant electricity, I dont know if is possible using this component, I was thinking more in something like a modified PWM to produce pulsed controlled current, just an idea.

If you add coil to PWM, you get radiant. The result may change though.

[jacek]

FWIW, attached is an untested schematic and the dual-layer PCB artwork of a colloidal silver generator with a built-in current limiter. The design has been created with EAGLE 5.9.0 for Linux, but the Windows version should work too. It features polarity auto-swapping (approx every 15 minutes), determined by the R5 potentiometer. The R6 pot limits the current flowing through the silver wires. The DPDT relay is a Radio Shack part# 275-249.
12VDC Coil DPDT Miniature PC Relay - RadioShack.com
Current limiter part of the schamatic was 'borrowed' from this page:
Power Supply Current Limiter Circuit :: Radio-Electronics.Com
I have built a similar, auto-swapping generator a while ago, however this schematic has not been tested yet. My gen's current limit is set to 1 mA (milli Ampere) when two silver wires are shorted together. While the colloid is being brewed, the current levels off at 800 uA (micro Amperes).
I do not have any PCBs made for this design yet.

Happy experimenting!

P.S. The attachment file is a ZIP file, so you must rename its extension from DOC to ZIP before unzipping. Apologies for the confusion, but I was unable to upload this file with its original ZIP extension.

P.S. The C3 capacitor has been erroneously marked as 'tantalum' type, a regular electrolytic one should work too.

P.S. the 12 V regulator is Radio Shack Catalog #: 276-1771 (max 35 VDC input): +12V Fixed-Voltage Regulator 7812 - RadioShack.com

[caril]

I found this:


This is rather a discouraging find.
It seems that ionic silver particles are somewhat effective for bacteria and other large pathogens, but the particle size is too large to do anything about virus's.
So the trick then is to determine what precisely is the method for making a true colloid of silver which has a consistent particle size of less that 100 nanometers (preferably less than 10 nm) and no simple electrolysis method seems up to the task.

This is good source of info about colloid silver. It will be useful for me for writing blogs....

[CosmicFarmer]

does it HAVE to turn yellow? With vigorous stirring and only 7 volts I need to clean the electrodes every third hour, but I let it "cook" for about 10 hours and even after years in storage, it never changes color but the tyndall still shows a very slight haze... The polarity swap would be nice but I think a simple DPDT switch might do the same trick, if you have the time to bother your CS every now and then while its being made. The current limiter looks nice too, but proper handling during its production would do the same.

I don't think you should microwave your water. Water is alive and the nuker kills it. Look at
Microwaved Water - See What It Does To Plants
Other side
How to Water Plants With Microwaved Water | eHow.com

There is controversy but I can tell you when I eat food that has been microwaved it all tastes like plastic and I get tired after eating it.

What does heating the water do, except allow more current to pass ? (Hot lightbulb theory)

[gmeast]

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I wonder if people thousands years ago that make silver colloid with distilled water...
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Hi sucahyo,

I'm not even sure they knew what "colloidal - anything" was, at least in the sense we do. They certainly did not make it with two 9 volt batteries, 2 pieces of .9999 % silver wire and some alligator clips. And I seriously doubt that anything along the lines of a 1500PPM or 3000PPM solutions ever existed back then ... that's ONLY modern day stuff requiring modern technology and/or chemistry. Yes they had that 'black' silver solutions in the late 1800's and early 1900's for external medical uses but you didn't ingest the stuff.

I think it was more like boiling water in silver pots, eating with silver utensils, and maybe collecting and drinking spring water that has percolated down through silver-rich deposits. These sources of colloidal silver were likely not even known to be 'colloidal' but rather simply passed down as 'grandma's tonic', or a traditional cure or something similar.

That's why I like:

... my 'rockajar' colloidal silver:


... a laser pen illuminating the sub-micron particles


... a Tyndall Cone seen by shining an LED light through the silver colloidal solution


This stuff is mechanically made ... just pure silver bars burnished against one another with a gentle rocking motion. The resulting colloidal silver solution is non-conductive and non-ionic ... maybe a TDS of 1 or 2 if you used distilled water.

Just sharing,

Greg

[sucahyo]

Thanks for the photo .

I still believe that there were time when people have high tech and have electricity at ancient time.

I found someone who suggest spring water, can't name it, sorry:

I wouldnt use any colloidal silver from anyone else in the world except the "colloidal silver transmuter" made by Joe.. I sell these..

so Joe's colloidal silver transmuter... actually transmutes the water into silver... so there are no side effects like blueing of the skin.

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the type of water is important even with this rocking silver unit.... I would suggest spring water from the top or side of a mountain that naturally comes out of the ground and tastes sweet

[gmeast]

Thanks for the photo .

I still believe that there were time when people have high tech and have electricity at ancient time.

I found someone who suggest spring water, can't name it, sorry:

Quote:
I wouldnt use any colloidal silver from anyone else in the world except the "colloidal silver transmuter" made by Joe.. I sell these..

so Joe's colloidal silver transmuter... actually transmutes the water into silver... so there are no side effects like blueing of the skin.
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the type of water is important even with this rocking silver unit.... I would suggest spring water from the top or side of a mountain that naturally comes out of the ground and tastes sweet .
Quote:

Who was the above quote from ?

thx

[sucahyo]

Who was the above quote from ?

thx

google "colloidal silver transmuter".

[noises]

There's only one google result for the first sentence of that quote, this thread.

I wouldnt use any colloidal silver from anyone else in the world except the "colloidal silver transmuter" made by Joe" - Google Search

there are, however, two results for "colloidal silver transmuter". One is, of course, this thread, the other points me to a forum I have to sign up to to even just read the post No thanks.
"colloidal silver transmuter" - Google Search

So could you just tell us who the quote is from please?

[sucahyo]

So could you just tell us who the quote is from please?

elpressiedente

you can read it from cache too.

reach him from here:
Colloidal silver [Archive] - David Icke's Official Forums

[plumber]

different approach, rockajar

Hi all,

I just wanted to add that as well as grizli's proposals, it seems important that whatever you do, if you are using electricity you need current control based on 1/2 the area of your silver. So you need a programmable current control

Hi gmeast, I really appreciated your research. I realize this post is old, but thought I'd try anyway. When you said absence of free oxygen...did you mean on a simple level (sealed container), not worrying about what is already trapped inside the container? Or vacuum? Will the water continue to donate oxygen to the process? Does this apply to method 2 as well as the rockajar method? I find the rockajar concept most intriguing...have you discovered anything new about this friction process since this post? sounds very good. Particle size control would concern me though. How could one be sure of proper nano size? Sorry about all the questions. My health might depend upon it. And finally... method 2... if the chemistry is in fact correct, wouldn't you say that it blows the lid off of the ion/particle controversy? To be able to convert S. oxide back to elemental silver particles would mean the layman could produce true colloids and probably ramp up ppm by running it through again, or maybe longer? Any input would be great plumber.