Iodine is rare in other country?

[sucahyo]

Iodine is important trace element for health.

I just found this article:
The Miracle Of Iodine And It's Nearly Free - Share The Wealth

Which mention the usefullness of SSKI. What I found weird is the need to purchase it. In here, in Indonesia, goverment require every salt manufacturer to add iodine in table salt, known as "garam beryodium" program of President Soeharto. This called after plague caused by iodine deficiency.

I also read that lack of iodine may even cause cancer.
Iodine - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia

Also found that it is lined after copper and silver in atom classification at chapter four of "occult chemistry", for me it is an indication that it can kill bactery and should have very good effect on human.

Also found other use here:
http://www.energeticforum.com/health...e-flusher.html


Don't other country have salt with iodine too?

[ImBill]

Yes, most processed salt has iodine added to it all over the world. In the United States, salt has been villainized to some extent for no good reason that I can see. Some say it causes high blood pressure and other bad things, so a lot of people limit their intake of salt (even though it is a very important nutrient that our body needs). Other people, like me, use unprocessed sea salt. However, most processed food has added salt, too, so most of us get a healthy dose of salt. I have no idea what the concentrations of iodine are in table salt nor what the body needs and how the two correlate, in other words, I don't know if our bodies get enough iodine from the small amount in a pinch of salt.

[wpage]

Iodine optional here in NJ USA

Salt sold here can be purchased with or without for same price...

[sucahyo]

I see. Thanks to you all for the answer .

There is never report about bere bere anymore after goverment force salt to contain iodine. I guess we don't need plenty. According to this site:
Seberapa Efektifkah Garam Beryodium? | Chem-Is-Try.Org | Situs Kimia Indonesia |

100g salt contain 2.5mg KIO. Where fish contain 0.0002% KIO. People need 2.5ug everyday. The article also mention that Europe custom of eating fish on each friday is enough.

How can a simple salt be villainized?

[wantfreeenergy]

I tend to keep refering to this site, but it seems that I find lots of good info there from individuals that like to share the truth they have found in health. I'm not affiliated with that site other than perusing around looking for ideas on healthy living. If you do a search for lugols iodine you can find quite a bit of good info. It may have it's own forum too. Alternative Medicine Forums, Blogs & FAQs on CureZone.com

I personally don't have any experience with iodine. I haven't ordered any from the internet and that's probably why I haven't tried it yet. But there's lots of good info from people that have used it on that site.

[sucahyo]

Ok, thanks.

I search around on that site and found some info on unrefined and refined salt. Still confused why a dirty salt is better than white salt when both is extracted from sea water which contain heavy metal and oil pollution. Kind of pollution that is not a problem in previous decades.

If white gold is what essential, then no method preserve it.

[sucahyo]

Iodine info from
http://curezone.com/upload/Doc/Iodine_Talk.doc

Iodine Intake in Japan

The first thing I checked out was Japanese iodine consumption. Seaweed is a potent source of iodine, and the Japanese eat a lot of it. More than 95 percent of the iodine they consume comes from seaweed, which includes kelp (brown algae); nori sheets (red algae), with sushi; and chlorella (green algae).

The nutrition section of Japan’s Bureau of Public Health did a study on Japanese food consumption, published in 10064, and found that they eat 4.5 gm of seaweed a day. [11] Saltwater fish contain iodine, but one would have to eat 15-25 pounds of fish to obtain 13 mg of iodine from this source.

According to health department officials, Japanese consumption of seaweed in 2001 was 14.6 grams a day. Assuming similar iodine content, this amount contains 43.8 mg of iodine. [12]

Studies measuring urine concentration of iodine confirm that the Japanese consume iodine in milligram amounts. [13] Residents on the coast of Hokkaido consume 200 mg of iodine a day. [14]

Iodine Intake in the US

The average daily intake of iodine in the U.S. is 240 ug—a quarter of a mg. This is half the amount Americans consumed 30 years ago, when iodine was used more widely in the diary industry and as a dough conditioner for making bread. Now it is only added to table salt, and 45 percent of American households purchase salt without iodine. Furthermore, since the 1980s those who do use iodized table salt have decreased their use of it by 65 percent. As a result, 15 percent of the U.S. adult female population, 1 in 7, suffer from iodine deficiency and have a urinary iodine concentration less than 50 ug/L. [15,16] The same percentage of American women, it turns out, will develop breast cancer during their lifetime. [17]

Health Comparisons: U.S. and Japan

The incidence of breast cancer in the U.S. is the highest in the world, and in Japan was, until recently, the lowest. Japanese women who emigrate from Japan or consume a Western style diet have a higher rate of breast cancer, decreasing the likelihood of there being a genetic component in the low incidence. [19, 20]

Life expectancy in the U.S. is 77.85 years, and in Japan, 81.25 years, the highest in the industrialized countries but slightly behind such places as San Marino, Singapore, and Hong Kong.

The infant mortality rate in Japan is the lowest in the world, half that in the United States. [21]

[Athena]

The iodine added to table salt evaporates; therefore, it's a poor source of iodine. Transdermal application, in which Lugol's Iodine is applied to the skin, works better according to what I've read. As for myself, I've just started using Nascent Iodine...a few drops in a small glass of water and sipped through a straw.

Some of you might be interested in reading Iodine: Bringing Back the Universal Medicine, the e-book by Mark Sircus, Ac., OMD. Or Dr. David Brownstein's book, Iodine: Why You Need It, Why You Can't Live Without It. The latter is on my ever-growing wish list on Amazon....
The link to the first book is here.

I do make my own bread, using unbleached flour (King Arthur brand); use non-fluoridated toothpaste, cook with stainless cookware instead of teflon-coated pans, and drink filtered water, so I do what I can to minimize iodine displacement by chlorine and fluorine.

One thing that worries me is how sucralose (Splenda) is touted as a terrific sugar-free product for diabetics. It contains 3 chlorine atoms covalently bound to a molecule of sucrose instead of the usual 3 -OH groups. Surely, this will create an overload of chlorine in relation to iodine. Not only that, when chlorine is covalently bound to an organic* compound, that is known as an organochlorine, something quite nasty. Many pesticides are organochlorines.

*Organic in this context refers to compounds that contain a carbon chain, not a method of farming.

sucahyo--Once you've tried Celtic Sea Salt, common table salt tastes bitter in comparison. The gray salt is harvested off the coast of Brittany by salt farmers using traditional methods and that area is considered pristine.
That's the only salt I use and I think you will like it as well.

[sucahyo]

The iodine added to table salt evaporates; therefore, it's a poor source of iodine.

Do you have a source for this? Are you saying that people eating table salt will not have iodine detected in their urine?

I found my table salt as a good cure for sick tooth. Apply ample salt to the sick part and leave it there. It work much better than pain reliever and it won't hurt anymore the next day or week. I once try betadine (bayer?) in a despert attempt to reduce the pain of my sick tooth, it help a little. However, I later found table salt to be much much better cure for sick tooth .

Using salt water as a mouthwash is a traditional way to reduce bad breath isn't it?

Some of you might be interested in reading Iodine: Bringing Back the Universal Medicine, the e-book by Mark Sircus, Ac., OMD. Or Dr. David Brownstein's book, Iodine: Why You Need It, Why You Can't Live Without It. The latter is on my ever-growing wish list on Amazon....
The link to the first book is here.

Thanks .

I do make my own bread, using unbleached flour (King Arthur brand); use non-fluoridated toothpaste, cook with stainless cookware instead of teflon-coated pans, and drink filtered water, so I do what I can to minimize iodine displacement by chlorine and fluorine.

Ever thinking to upgrade to copper cookware? Some say it is much healthier and better than stainless, although maybe much more expensive. At least plant do not like stainless steel, they are healthier with copper/brass.

I wonder why there is no copper/brass table ware anymore. I remember seeing one when I was little...

One thing that worries me is how sucralose (Splenda) is touted as a terrific sugar-free product for diabetics. It contains 3 chlorine atoms covalently bound to a molecule of sucrose instead of the usual 3 -OH groups. Surely, this will create an overload of chlorine in relation to iodine.

I think any artificial sugar is unhealthy. I see people use artifical sugar with 50% less callory and consume 4 times as much. I think we should do fasting if we want to avoid sugar that despert. It help stomach rest during the day without interrupted by too frequent meal.

About chlorine and iodine relation, I guess balance are important. Table salt which contain iodine have more Chlorine source than Iodine (NaCl + KIO).

sucahyo--Once you've tried Celtic Sea Salt, common table salt tastes bitter in comparison. The gray salt is harvested off the coast of Brittany by salt farmers using traditional methods and that area is considered pristine.
That's the only salt I use and I think you will like it as well.

Thank you. Thankfully, salt farmer here use traditional method. I live 5 km from the salt making farm. They still use sun and wood tool to process the salt. If I want unprocessed salt, it would be easy but I still worry about iodine defisit.

BTW, some people here believe that rain is happen less on my area because salt farmer prevent rain happen to their farm. I am sure they don't use cloud buster, they use something much older.

[Athena]

Do you have a source for this? Are you saying that people eating table salt will not have iodine detected in their urine?

Yes, it says that in the first paragraph of chapter 6 in the book written by Dr. Sircus. A trace amount of iodine will remain, but since iodine deficiency is common, then that trace amount must not be enough meet the needs for many people. Since I rarely eat fish (Hg contamination) and use Celtic sea salt instead of iodized salt, I decided to supplement with Nascent iodine--it works if taken orally or applied to skin. Since you mentioned your sick tooth, you find it interesting to know that there is a testimonial in the book where a man used a few drops of Nascent iodine on infected tooth.

I always keep Betadine on hand...it's great for washing wounds if one of my chickens gets a cut. Messy, but effective.

Copper cookware is incredibly expensive here as well and not found in most stores that sell cookware. Sometimes, we have to pick the lesser of the evils when it comes to selecting pots and pans. I do have a enameled cast iron pot that is wonderful for making soups & chili and even that type of cookware isn't found in most stores. I subscribe to Mercola.com's newsletter and remembered Dr. Mercola posting about cookware so I hunted for what he had to say regarding cooking with copper.

Copper is an alternative that provides even heat distribution. However, I recommend that it never has direct contact with your food. When you use cooper as your cooking surface, it can leach out in excessive amounts. If enough leaching occurs, you could potentially experience digestive discomforts. Therefore, most copper pans come lined with other metals, creating the same concerns noted above.

The rest of the article is found Here

No, artificial sweeteners for me either, yet I have family members that still believe it's safe to use those. I've tried different brands of stevia and even grew a stevia plant....yuck, it was just too weird tasting for my diabetic husband or me. I stick to organic, raw sugar or xylitol and raw, unfiltered honey.

[sucahyo]

I see. Thanks for the info .

This link bellow suplement the coper toxic info:
Copper toxicity - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia
Copper - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia

I guess ceramic is still best material for cooking.

[rhozzi]

I have hypothyroidism and have been on Armour thyroid (no longer available)for years. I've been checking out the Curezone website and found out about iodine supplentation and bought a pint of Lugo's iodine (for internal use) and have taken it off and on for months (5 drops twice a day) but when I bought another type of iodine (Magnascent) and added it to my regime (2 drops per day in 8 oz. glass of water twice a day, and still taking the other 5 drops of Lugo) my energy levels increased a lot. I also bought a bottle of minerals that has 325 mg. of boron (we don't get enough of that either) and selenium, etc. Now I'm getting more done because I have the energy and motivation. What a difference it makes to get enough nutrients into our bodies. We're evidently not always getting it in our food.

[Athena]

I have hypothyroidism and have been on Armour thyroid (no longer available)for years.

Another example of FDA acting in our best interest and another freedom of choice taken away.

rhozzi--I'm glad to know the Lugol's and Nascent iodine, plus the bottle of minerals, is helping you. That's wonderful!!

[sucahyo]

I have hypothyroidism and have been on Armour thyroid (no longer available)for years. I've been checking out the Curezone website and found out about iodine supplentation and bought a pint of Lugo's iodine (for internal use) and have taken it off and on for months (5 drops twice a day) but when I bought another type of iodine (Magnascent) and added it to my regime (2 drops per day in 8 oz. glass of water twice a day, and still taking the other 5 drops of Lugo) my energy levels increased a lot. I also bought a bottle of minerals that has 325 mg. of boron (we don't get enough of that either) and selenium, etc. Now I'm getting more done because I have the energy and motivation. What a difference it makes to get enough nutrients into our bodies. We're evidently not always getting it in our food.

Do you have to keep that kind of dosis or you can reduce it after a few month?

How do we know we lack of those factor?

Anyone know a good reference that explain the symptom of lack of minerals in our body? Most of them only mention we lack of mineral from our food but most do not describe symptoms.

Something like wiki info on hypothyroidism.
Hypothyroidism - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia

[rhozzi]

I eat most of the foods listed that say certain minerals are in them but I still had diffeceincy or my body wasn't absorbing them. As to how long to take certain minerals...I don't know. I'll keep taking them as long as I feel a benefit. The internet should have info. on mineral dif. symptoms somewhere. I'll look and report back.