The Energy Cleaner ... personal experiences

[Dupe]

Electronic healing device

Thanks for sharing the information.

Maybe your device is not healing the root problem. And there is some warning that altering a radionic kind of device may change its operation to the point of making it work the reverse.

Hi Sucahyo, thanks for your reply. My back pain returned during the period without the device in use... perhap I have miss led you. The circuit polarity timming has two setings instaed of switching every 20 mins, I can switch either every 20mins or every 5 mins. The device stays the same otherwise. I still have the back pain now it's back in use however. Dupe

[Dupe]

Electronic healing Update

I have for several months been exprimenting with my version of the "Lee Crock" type healing device. I am convinced this device does seem to have a positive influence on general wellbeing. My Wifes agrivating arthritic pain has diminished. My aches and pains on awakening have all but disappeared, and energy levels have increased. Some of the arduous tasks I always struggled with in the passed due to muscle aches and back pain, I find far easier to handle now with relative ease. The results are encouraging but not instantaneous. Experimenting with alternative time switching periods and battery cell combinations is difficult finding the right combinations that work best. I did read a while back that the older you are the longer it takes to appreciate any effects. At well over 60 that's probably true.

[sucahyo]

Thanks for the update.

Maybe you should try direct connection to body too. Also see high frequency healing thread about the Joe Cell method of healing with battery.

For timing, I think you should try longer negative. With minimum time of length 2 minutes. For instance 2 minutes positive and then 1 hour of negative.

I think you should pay attention to any crossing wire too, where it should be as minimal as possible.

[Dupe]

Thanks for the update.

Maybe you should try direct connection to body too. Also see high frequency healing thread about the Joe Cell method of healing with battery.

For timing, I think you should try longer negative. With minimum time of length 2 minutes. For instance 2 minutes positive and then 1 hour of negative.

I think you should pay attention to any crossing wire too, where it should be as minimal as possible.

Thanks for your suggestions, my present design has a 3 position time period selector switch... 15 mins, 12 mins, and 5 mins, time periods. In the off position the screen is left connected to the 4.5 volt batteries negative. I can reprogram the micro controller for other timming periods / combinations.

[sucahyo]

Thanks for your suggestions, my present design has a 3 position time period selector switch... 15 mins, 12 mins, and 5 mins, time periods. In the off position the screen is left connected to the 4.5 volt batteries negative. I can reprogram the micro controller for other timming periods / combinations.

Thank you.

I am sorry if you already answer this before. Have you use the device on your bed?

Have you notice change of sleep when you connect the device with off position to your bed?

I like to compare it with my radiant sleeping aid, and intend to try to use it lee crock way.

[Dupe]

Thank you.

I am sorry if you already answer this before. Have you use the device on your bed?

Have you notice change of sleep when you connect the device with off position to your bed?

I like to compare it with my radiant sleeping aid, and intend to try to use it lee crock way.

Hi sucahyo,
I only use it on my bed. I have a 1mtr square fine mesh stainless steel screen... placed between the boxed spring bed base, and a memory foam pad over the top which we sleep on. I normally unplug the screen from the control unit, but I'm now leaving the screen plugged in while switched off. In the off position the screen is connected to the 4.6 volt battery -ve polarity (taking note of your comments) I will post comments again if I notice any difference. Incidentlly... I'm not sure if the foam pad makes any difference placed between the screen and the body It was suggested that it could act as an insulator to the field!!
As I have mentioned I'm still experimenting with different versions. My first design was 3 volts.. 10 x "D"cells, 15 mins time period. The present design is 4.5 volt... 6 x "D" cells. 15 mins, 12 mins and 5 mins time periods. Both of these designs use relay switched output. I also have a none relay output version directly switched from the controller output port. As I have already mentioned it's difficult to ascertain which design gives the best results.
For one... I'm trying to find the reason behind using so many cells, as Lee Crock did? It can take some time before any noticeable changes seem to take effect. Well...can In my case anyway! .. but I'm conviced this device can bring worthwhile benifits.

[sucahyo]

Thank you.

I connect my radiant sleeping aid to my bed metal. I use spring bed, so there is spring inside the matras. The interesting part is, the sleep effect seems to be stronger on top of the matras then when we touch the bed.

I usually set the output between 40V to 50V. Bed connect to negative, the positive to ungrounded water.

If you interested, see if yours produce stronger effect if the other polarity is connected to water that must not connect to ground. If the water is grounded the voltage is not lower and I get headache or nightmare.

Off device has negative connect to ground and positive connect to ungrounded water. You may need relay with two contact point because diode may change result.

Hi sucahyo,
I only use it on my bed. I have a 1mtr square fine mesh stainless steel screen... placed between the boxed spring bed base, and a memory foam pad over the top which we sleep on. I normally unplug the screen from the control unit, but I'm now leaving the screen plugged in while switched off. In the off position the screen is connected to the 4.6 volt battery -ve polarity (taking note of your comments) I will post comments again if I notice any difference. Incidentlly... I'm not sure if the foam pad makes any difference placed between the screen and the body It was suggested that it could act as an insulator to the field!!
As I have mentioned I'm still experimenting with different versions. My first design was 3 volts.. 10 x "D"cells, 15 mins time period. The present design is 4.5 volt... 6 x "D" cells. 15 mins, 12 mins and 5 mins time periods. Both of these designs use relay switched output. I also have a none relay output version directly switched from the controller output port. As I have already mentioned it's difficult to ascertain which design gives the best results.
For one... I'm trying to find the reason behind using so many cells, as Lee Crock did? It can take some time before any noticeable changes seem to take effect. Well...can In my case anyway! .. but I'm conviced this device can bring worthwhile benifits.

[Dupe]

Thank you.

I connect my radiant sleeping aid to my bed metal. I use spring bed, so there is spring inside the matras. The interesting part is, the sleep effect seems to be stronger on top of the matras then when we touch the bed.

Would that be the frame of the bed or to the matress springs? My matress is sprung but there is no continuity between all the springs. I will try your idea of... short duration, say... 5 mins +ve cycle to 1 hour of -ve cycle, repeated through the night. Regards

[sucahyo]

Would that be the frame of the bed or to the matress springs? My matress is sprung but there is no continuity between all the springs. I will try your idea of... short duration, say... 5 mins +ve cycle to 1 hour of -ve cycle, repeated through the night. Regards

To bed frame. From what I know my matress spring is connected together with steel, separate from the frame though.

I will look forward for the result. At least using negative would reduce blood pressure .

[whwm01]

Glad I stumbled across this thread here, I was starting to believe by reading the far outdated websites that had discussed Lee Crock's Energy Cleanser and MexiStim, that this whole topic were dead. I first stumbled upon Keelynet's article roughly a year ago and had interest in building this. By looking at the diagram, it seems to be fairly simple? - though I have very little experience in the electrical field. I refuse to spend the money that they're requesting to have one personally built and shipped here from Mexico, especially for something that really isn't proven to work. With that said, I still have a great interest in putting one of these together and giving it a go-round.

Before giving this my first shot, could you guys help me with a few questions regarding parts?

- What kind of timer would be good in building this?
- What would be a good DPST relay?
- Would I be able to order the above on a site such as Ebay?
- Are there any special types of wire that is supposed to be used?

Basically, the timer switches the relay which switches the main wire connected to the screen from negative to positive right? Like I said, I'm new to this, yet highly interested. Any help would be greatly appreciated!

[Dupe]

Before giving this my first shot, could you guys help me with a few questions regarding parts?

- What kind of timer would be good in building this?
- What would be a good DPST relay?
- Would I be able to order the above on a site such as Ebay?
- Are there any special types of wire that is supposed to be used?

Basically, the timer switches the relay which switches the main wire connected to the screen from negative to positive right? Like I said, I'm new to this, yet highly interested. Any help would be greatly appreciated!

Hi whwm01,
I will be more than pleased to offer what help I can for you with the technical issues. I am an electronics engineer, and I have designed several versions of this device... however the basic principle is very straight forward to understand and I'm sure you can put a basic circuit together. Let's first take a look at the original "Lee Crock" device which uses a combination of 10 x "D" cell batteries, these cells are 1.5 volts each so two connected end to end (top pip of one to flat bottom of another) = 3 volts... by connecting 5 pairs side by side (all top pips together for positive 3 volts) and all flat bottoms together for negative 3 volts) You can purchase 2 x "D" cell battery holders, or as I have done make up a simple box to house the cell's. You can either use "D" cell battery springs or cheap plastic clothes pegs with the springs removed to form battery negative contacts. Next you need a screen to which a single length of multistranded copper flex is connected. The other free end connects to your cell pack and is made to switch + and - every 15 mins. Now how you provide the switching depends on your level of skill and facilities to hand. If you can find a mechanism which either provides a facility to switch every fifteen mins, or will give a single shaft rotation every hour, then a disc fitted to this shaft could be fashioned to provide 15 min segments able to operate a mechanical micro switch. You need to give this some thought of course. Should you choose to use a relay one that can operate from between 9 volts to 12 volts would be ok. (remember though in the quite of night they click when switching!)... So OK so far shouldn't have any problems with parts and very cheap to put together. As I have mentioned I have several built versions to experiment with that provide alternative modes of operation. I have posted in other forums in the past and have had a good responce from other experimenters using these simple working devices.
Your most welcome hear, do have ago for yourself... as I'm pleased that somebody new has found this thread. Don't be afraid to ask questions if you don't understand the technicalities etc. Kind Regards Dupe

[whwm01]

Thanks for the quick response Dupe! I plan on working on finding some of the parts today and try to put it together within the next few days. I'll post pictures and I'll post back with any problems or questions I have along the way.

[jackdone]

Thank you for your answering machine Lee has developed apparently produces the same alternative CCW and CW motion without the use of a human operator to produce the same power flush and refill.

[Dupe]

Energy cleaner diagram

Just to add to my simplified build instruction, I have included this attachment of a simple assembly diagram using a 1Hour per rev clock type motor. Observe electrical safety standards if using an AC powered motor!!

[whwm01]

Dupe, your Energy cleaner diagram never showed up.. I think I have a general understand of what I'm doing here, that is until the whole timer system. I'm still fairly confused with that. Generally speaking, I'm just not sure what type of timer/relay or 1 hour per rev clock type moter that I'm supposed to use. I have found the wiring at home here so I'm good on that, I plan on buying the screen and battery holders tomorrow.

What type of metal am I looking for when purchasing this screen?

I plan on using Ebay to order the remainder of parts needed unless Home Depot surprises me and would happen to have anything else needed.