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  • Ionized water and Magnetized water

    Ok folks.

    I just spent the last hour searching this site and the web in general on "magnetized" water and ionized water.

    From what I could read they are two completely different treatments of water.

    Magnetized organizes the water for better absorption

    Ionized water increases the alkalinity to above 7 ph

    If I have this wrong, someone please correct me.

    For decades I have used crystal energy treatment for water that I drink, this appears to do much of the same as the magnetized water...again, please correct me if one or the other has more benefits.

    However, with the crystal energy (Flanagan micro clusters) it is only practical for glasses of water, not showering, gardening, etc. So if the magnetized water does all, or more that the micro clusters do, I would like to migrate to that. Not only could I use it for all water needs, but I would not have to constantly be putting the drops in glasses of water that I am going to drink.

    I am ashamed to say it, but I have known the benefits of having a more alkaline balance in what I eat and drink for who knows how long, I simply have not taken the steps to make it happen.

    All that said, I have a few questions that I hope some of you have answers for.

    1. Can the same water be both magnetized and ionized?

    2. I live in a house that has a well, I would like to have the water coming out of all my faucets both magnetized and ionized (if both are possible)--- are there some plans/instructions on how I can build devices to accomplish this? Or am I going to have to shell out some $ to buy already mfg. equipment?

    Thanks in advance for any, and all, advice/information.

    Kevin

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  • #2
    ionized and magnetic water

    Kevin,

    If you want alkaline or negatively charged anti-oxidant water, Kangen
    is probably the best machine and one of the more expensive. I don't
    believe there is anything better than the Kangen machine.

    You can get a cheaper Korean one called Jupiter and there are others
    so depends on how much you want to spend.

    I think both have options to make both alkaline water for internal use and
    can make acid water for external skin use and cleaning.

    I also think both have options to drop in mineral tablets to infuse calcium
    and/or other minerals into the water for example but with well water, you
    might not need those tablets.

    Neither are magnetized but they are negatively charged and literally turn
    the water into medicine, which will neutralize free-radicals.

    Crystal Energy is good and I used to use it. It wets the water and I
    think it has negatively charged hydrogen, which does not turn into an
    anti-oxidant after it gives off its electron like most anti-oxidants. That is
    the big benefit always touted. And each ATOM of hydrogen donates an
    electron instead of a MOLECULE of vitamin C for example, which is
    gigantic compared to a hydrogen atom.

    I used to use Microhydrin more than Crystal Energy.

    Kangen water and Cyrstal Energy added to water both neutralize free
    radicals and each at their own level. You can probably search for their
    ORP reading or Oxygen Reduction Potential - basically the ability for it
    to neutralize anything that is an oxidizer or positively charged free radical.

    Pound for pound, Crystal Energy or Microhydrin probably has a higher
    ORP reading than Kangen water but I've never checked. In any case,
    long term, you will probably save money, time and effort by having a
    Kangen water machine and never have to worry about adding stuff
    to the water.

    I do not have one myself but that is where I'd spend my money for an
    anti-oxidant water machine.

    My personal water goes from my mainline through a 7 stage water filter good for
    1.4 million gallons of water at 99.999% purity then when that pure water
    makes it to my kitchen sink, I have some diverted to an under counter
    filter that does an extra 3 stage purification and that goes to a water
    spigot. As far as being chemically clean, there is nothing that can touch
    what my system does as it has been through 10 stages by the time it
    touches my drinking glass.

    As far as energetics, it is only magnetized. I have magnets around my
    water lines, which like-charges the mineral clusters and when they're like-
    charged, they repel each other and precipitate back into the water as
    ionized minerals (much smaller pieces) meaning I have greatly reduced
    the water hardness to much softer water meaning I'll have less mineral
    buildup on dishes, in the pipes, in hot water heater, etc...

    Magnets can make the water wetter by lowering the surface tension by
    breaking mineral clusters into smaller pieces. So if water is wetter,
    wetter water is more easily absorbed and therefore, magnets can make
    for better absorption.

    Most magnetic configurations around water pipes are scams and very few
    geometries work.

    Magnetizer is a bit spendy but they have the #1 magnet product for
    water lines and spending it anywhere else is a waste of money in my
    opinion. Magnetizer®

    When you see the prices, be careful thinking you can do it much cheaper
    by just buying cheaper ceramic magnets and doing it yourself. You can,
    but they simply have it figured out. They use the right geometry that is
    the ONLY geometry of a magnetic configuration around water pipes that
    even the dept of energy even claims works and I have the documentation
    to prove it. In any case, Magnetizer is the only company to deal with for
    water magnetization in my opinion.
    Sincerely,
    Aaron Murakami

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    • #3
      Aaron,

      The magnets you have around your pipes...are they the Magnetizers or some other option?

      Is it replicable?

      Thanks for all the other info...I am plowing through the sites right now.

      Anyone else have thoughts, experiences, info on this?

      Kevin

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      • #4
        This is kind of a depressing topic because you have to throw a lot of money at it to solve.

        Even then, I'd prefer natural water that was unpolluted with good minerals still in it to anything else.

        It's frustrating but I've had to result to drinking Fiji Water. Which, sigh, has to be bottled and shipped. That sucks. At least the company is carbon neutral, or even carbon negative.

        And then of course there's all the exposure through my shower. I have a filter but that's not going to work for fluoride.

        This is why the Fluoride Action Network deems fluoridation of public water an income discrimination issue, since it costs so much to remove it.

        Hopefully the crystals being planted in special places in the earth according to prophesies and instructions from elders past by Little Grandmother are doing something to help all of earth's water. . .
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        • #5
          I believe that magnet and crystal produce same some kind of energy. However I also believe that crystal produce it differently on different distance.

          I think crystal is stronger than magnet. However, I also think we should not use the crystal as is. I believe that we should try to obtain clear ice if we freeze the water.

          Both bellow show how different bubble in the water transform on different face position, using a quartz wrapped with special coil.




          I believe that to get healthy water, it should produce clear ice with air helix in it.

          For comparison between magnet and crystal based device, see this video:
          YouTube - HEXAGONAL WATER Vitalizer plus ALKALINE pH Test Amega Sensei Wand Structured HOLO Water Generator

          Notice how both can complement each other.

          I now build mine from copper wire since I still not sure how to completely change crystal energy to produce clear ice all around. The coil I use in previous photo is good for polarizing the crystal more but do mediocre to suppress the unneeded energy.

          It seems to taste good, not sure because it already added with sugar:


          On vehicle, my piece work much stronger than neo.

          If you have non ferromagnetic pendulum, you should be able to tell which part of the crystal emit same energy as magnetic north, not completely the same though. I think magnet polarity is more pure.

          For plan:
          make some small copper coil wound exactly like this:


          Make a hundred or so, then solidify it with resin or something. After it cured wrap it with a coil exactly like the black coil in this video:
          http://www.youtube.com/v/TsGz2Kri8Sc

          The video show pendulum reading. Show how I get different rotation out of many thing. the one with gold is called orgonite, which I think an example of bad orgonite because it has the same reading as a cellphone. That orgonite produce foggy ice.

          See if you have clear ice in your freezer with the result.
          Last edited by sucahyo; 10-25-2010, 05:10 AM.

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          • #6
            pm

            Originally posted by Kevin View Post
            The magnets you have around your pipes...are they the Magnetizers or some other option?
            Check your private message
            Sincerely,
            Aaron Murakami

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            • #7
              you can remove fluoride

              Originally posted by future pather View Post
              This is kind of a depressing topic because you have to throw a lot of money at it to solve.

              Even then, I'd prefer natural water that was unpolluted with good minerals still in it to anything else.
              Jessica,

              Here are THE water filters to get. These are for purification and don't
              do anything for the energetics. The CLEAN the water.
              Welcome to Vitasalus/Equinox Products - We bring wellness to life!

              I'd recommend this for you for your kitchen sink.
              Equinox EQ-10 Countertop Water Filter

              Then fill your own bottles and save a LOT of money!

              Get the countertop and screw it onto your faucet. You will have purified
              water. That unit is good for about 5000 gallons. After 5000 gallons, if you
              test the water, it will be MORE pure than just about any other system
              brand new out of the box.

              Again, when these filters are recommended to be thrown out, they still
              out perform just about all other companies new filters!!!

              I don't remember the retail of the countertop but it came out to 5 cents
              per gallon of 99.999% pure water! Cleaner than any bottle water you'll
              ever get.

              5 cents per gallon!! In the stores you pay 99 cents for like 16 ounces or
              so. People complain about gas prices at $3 per gallon but people routinely
              pay WAY more than that for bottled water!

              When I used to sell these filters from the same manufacturer, the NSF
              (national sanitation foundation) had only given like 7
              approval/endorsements for water systems ever - and our filtration line had
              5 of those 7! That speaks volumes as to the quality of these filters.

              At $94 for one countertop, that is WAY lower than we used to sell them
              for!

              I have the undercounter model with its own spigot and the showermate
              on the shower head.

              In the basement, I have this on my mainline:
              Vitasalus/Equinox Products PureMaster V-750 Premium Whole House Water Filtration System

              There is nothing like bathing in water that is more pure than bottled
              water and every tap in the house is purified. Washing clothes in
              purified water means less detergent and less buildup and clothes last
              longer.

              For fluoride, you can get this:
              This is one of the few systems that remove fluoride:
              Vitasalus FluorideMaster Whole House Fluoride Water Filtration System
              You can have fluoride free water on every tap in your home.

              I haven't done it yet, but the only thing I'd add to my normal water
              filtration system in my home is the UV system to kill any potential bacteria
              coming in the mainline.

              For other enhancements, I'd do the Kangen water system.

              For magnets, I'd buy magnetizer because it would work better than my
              own version with cheaper magnets.
              Sincerely,
              Aaron Murakami

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              • #8
                Very good to know, thanks Aaron.

                I thought I also might mention that iodine helps the body flush out fluoride very well. I take a daily kelp supplement, which is a source of natural iodine.
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                • #9
                  Thanks for posting this orgone device plan, Sucahyo! You certainly have a more exacting, scientific approach to the subject, which is refreshing.

                  Originally posted by sucahyo View Post
                  For plan:
                  make some small copper coil wound exactly like this:


                  Make a hundred or so, then solidify it with resin or something. After it cured wrap it with a coil exactly like the black coil in this video:
                  http://www.youtube.com/v/TsGz2Kri8Sc
                  How should the copper coils be arranged before cement is poured? What form or shape of mold works best? If it is supposed to be feminine, perhaps roundness is most appropriate?

                  Do you use pure concrete or does your cement contain sand? If so, you've got small quartz crystals in there anyways.

                  Keep up your good works!

                  - Godfrey

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                  • #10
                    Originally posted by Godfrey View Post
                    How should the copper coils be arranged before cement is poured? What form or shape of mold works best? If it is supposed to be feminine, perhaps roundness is most appropriate?
                    I put the copper coil randomly.

                    For shape, square is male, hexagon is female. A pyramid with a square base and four triangle with same side on top can be seen as energy shooter, maybe male from the point and female at the bottom.

                    In CSE, tubular house of wasp produce male, and hexagon house of honeybee is female.

                    However, I found that form has less influence than material mix.

                    David from CSSP suggest 48.195 mm copper length for male, so I think we should try 36.14625 mm for female. I still not sure if it represent length of coil or length of wire.

                    Originally posted by Godfrey View Post
                    Do you use pure concrete or does your cement contain sand? If so, you've got small quartz crystals in there anyways.
                    Pure concrete. I found that I get male with iron sand or salt. I still get nightmare with quartz powder or quartz stone even if it read as female.

                    Absolutely no crystal, no stone, no sand, not even salt.


                    Try the basic first. let it dry completely.

                    Bubble or hole in the cement is sign of male energy. Clear ice with cement piece near is sign of female energy.

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                    • #11
                      to everyone that responded to this post.

                      Using the info posted here, and other parts of the forum, and a substantial amount of other research, I have learned quite a bit about water, and how to conveniently and economically improve it.

                      I have posted some of my findings here, and will be posting more in the coming weeks.

                      Again,


                      Kevin

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                      • #12
                        It's sheer quackery.

                        The best water is distilled. But filtered tap water is nearly as good, unless the water in your area is particularly nasty. Then whole-house reverse-osmosis filtered water would be best.
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                        • #13
                          avoid distilled water

                          Originally posted by Alex Boby View Post
                          It's sheer quackery.

                          The best water is distilled. But filtered tap water is nearly as good, unless the water in your area is particularly nasty. Then whole-house reverse-osmosis filtered water would be best.
                          I've never seen animals lick moisture out of the air. We aren't designed to
                          drink distilled water and this is why nature does not provide distilled water
                          to animals. Fresh water is what most animals drink and it has dissolved
                          minerals in it from the Earth.

                          Distilled water is good for stripping the minerals out of the body and
                          causing digestive disorders. It is only good for bringing down certain
                          mineral buildup but is not for regular drinking.

                          Reverse osmosis is another way to take almost all the good minerals out
                          of the water, which is undesirable.

                          Multi-stage filtration of tap water is better than either one since it cleans
                          the water of contaminants but leaves the healthy minerals that we need.

                          Many people have touted distilled water for a long time as being the
                          best water to drink but it is completely contrary to natural facts and
                          basic biology.

                          Especially in the day and age where almost all common food has no more
                          minerals in it because the farmlands are depleted, we need all the minerals
                          we can get.
                          Sincerely,
                          Aaron Murakami

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                          • #14
                            It will be also an advantage to put into water Ozone gas or Browns Gas.

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                            • #15
                              Ionized water

                              A water ionizer splits water into ionized acidic and ionized alkaline fragments. The ionized alkaline water is rich in anti oxidants that flushes out the toxins from our body and balances the acid-alkaline body pH. Alkaline Water also cleanses the skin to prevent premature aging.
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