Living vs dead water. It is easy.

[Jetijs]

I made a test with silver and it turns out that silver increases the positive charge in water, making plenty of positively charged oxygen ions that kill the bacteria and is good for disinfection.

[Slovenia]

Thanks

Thanks Jetijs for sharing this thread with us!!

I made a test with silver and it turns out that silver increases the positive charge in water, making plenty of positively charged oxygen ions that kill the bacteria and is good for disinfection.

[conradphd]

A basic understanding

I looked and found what should be the easiest to understand as it speaks of the free radical which is what is what you would want to remove. Even though the article speaks of supplements - water can be interchanged for the sake of conversation.

I would question the actual results of these water products without seeing a complete analysis as I do not see where pollutants are being removed and are rather modified in many possible ways which may do more damage than good.

The production of water products in this way can result in many unknowns that are indeed dangerous. Take for example the reaction of plastics with heavy ion concentrations and what about the filter material and the electrodes?

This is worth study and does indeed have a potential benefit yet only if precautions are taken. My big fear for this is the presence of Cl, F, Li and Fe that will change through this process.

Not damping anyone's idea here - just adding a word of caution and hey be careful with the electrodes as you might have to audition for the "Blueman Group"

Understanding Free Radicals and Antioxidants

[blochwall]

Magnesium Pencil Anode

Hi Jetis,

Thanks for the info, I was wondering if a magnesium pencil anode such as this would be a good choice to alkalise water?

Thanks

[Jetijs]

I am not sure. It says :
"Material Type Zinc"

Should be magnesium

[theremart]

RE: treating water.

This is an awesome way to go, I did this about 2 years ago, but I must caution that you need to insure high quality electrodes. I used electrodes I made from old kitchen stainless steel.

YouTube - Video 95 PH Acid Base Water plants Alkaline.wmv

I found that I was creating a poison..

hexavalent chromium

It was very destructive to my plants.

I do believe in this method of treating water is very helpful when done with the right electrodes, but I just want to caution against doing this on the cheap.

FYI

[blochwall]

I am not sure. It says :
"Material Type Zinc"

Should be magnesium

I think I out did myself this time


Maybe I should just ask if a solid magnesium rod is all thats needed. I'm guessing yes but I just wanted to confirm.

[sucahyo]

I used electrodes I made from old kitchen stainless steel.

YouTube - Video 95 PH Acid Base Water plants Alkaline.wmv

I found that I was creating a poison..

hexavalent chromium

It was very destructive to my plants.

Thanks for the info .

I guess I have to withdraw my suggestion for kangen water for common people. Better suggest something without power...

[noises]

Also do you remember Joecell? The cells also needed to be charged for several days and retained their charge only for a limited time. Joe talked about charging his cells with negative energy, but no one really understood what he meant by this. I am certain that this is exactly what he meant. Remember Joes secret power supply for precharging water before putting it into the cell? No secrets in that anymore, he had a variac with a rectifier on the output, the positive of the rectifier was dumped in the ground and the negative of the rectifier went to the cell. Well it is now obvious what he did and why so many, including me, have failed. In order to make the joecell work you need to get the water as negatively charged as possible. This should be also super good for the health. So I encourage everyone to experiment with this.
Thanks,
Jetijs

You're 100% right, this is exactly what Joe is talking about when he talks about negatively charged water, however, once in a working cell, the negatively charged water holds it's charge for much, much longer than it can outside of the cell, in any other type of container. It seems the function of the cell has a secondary effect of slowing the loss of negative ions in the water inside a working cell. There's a video with Joe talking about the cell, (the one in the white suzuki 4WD, that won't shut down,) in which he gives quite a bit of focus to the negative charged water. (He's playing with it, setting it alight, arcing DC electricity across it, talking about how he charges it etc etc etc.)

The "secret" power supply was an old PMG (Post Master General) rectifier used in old telegraph and phone exchanges. It's the same thing Joe uses to "charge you up" when you go to visit him, and he's a bit coy when it comes to explaining why it's different to other rectifiers. As best I can tell, it's not anything unique about the components, rather the way they are arranged on the board. I think Joe has an unfair advantage in that he perceives electro-magnetic fields in much the same way we see solid objects, and is therefore cheating outrageously

A lot of people failed to replicate the cell. In some cases, it's their intention that's the problem, in others, the fact they don't listen, and simply assume "oh it works like this." and then the only thing they want to know when you show them how they got it wrong is "how come it won't work the way I want it to work?"

Anyway, just wanted to say, with the ORP meter, you can also observe how food comes in both live and dead forms, same as water. For example, an orange picked from the tree will rate about -200mV and the same orange half a day later will be getting closer to -10mV, and the following day will be +100mV. As you correctly pointed out, the negative millivolt reading you find in "living water" indicates massive health benefits. So fresh produce and fresh picked raw foods naturally have significant negative readings on the ORP meter, and are much better for the body than dead foods, picked two months ago and left to decay on a supermarket shelf.

The design is so very simple, but the quality , purity and charge of the water is CRITICAL to a working cell. And bare in mind, water is also receptive to the thoughts and intentions of people around it. You don't want to be thinking thoughts of doom and gloom, or worse, crass financial gain, when you're in proximity to a cell. All you'll do is kill the water and the cell won't work. Intention is easily 30% of the equation with the cell. Try explaining that to people who want to build one to debunk it, or build one to make a billion dollars out of it even though it's not their IP... they don't want to hear it! Well, bless 'em anyway.

[Jetijs]

Thank you noises
great info

[noises]

Practical application of the living vs dead food. I habitually pick a pinch of parsley, or a mint leaf, or anything at all, from any living edible plant I pass and pop it straight into my mouth. Knowing it's live food, I love it, chewing slowly, enjoying the flavors and the vitality of FRESH food, even if it's just a morsel.

If you understand what the ORP meter tells you, and apply it to your pH levels, then it makes sense that just a tiny bit of fresh, living food makes a considerable difference to your overall health and energy levels. If I walk past something green, growing and edible, and pick a morsel three or four times a day, I'm not eating for nutrition, I'm eating for my pH balance, to keep myself alkaline, cancer free, energised, sharp witted, smiling and ready for action. And I don't have to worry about getting the right metals for cathodes and anodes Just pick a leaf and chew.

Fun little weekend project, if you live in the burbs and can't have a herb and vege garden, get a window box growing, cultivate some parsley, bit of mint, sage is nice, lemon grass maybe, whatever's easy. Then once it's established, pick, nibble and chew with much appreciation, and tend with much love. Window boxes should be mandatory, have I done that rant here? Anyway.

And some people might have picked up on the vocabulary used to talk about the live food. KNOWING it's live food i LOVE it ENJOYing the flavors etc. Feeling gratitude for that good food, being in a happy place while I eat it, consciously appreciating it as a sensual delight, specifically, the senses of touch, taste and smell. If you ask me, being in that state of mind while I eat is even healthier for me than the food with negative ORP values. Even though I'm eating less than a mouthful of food, I'm LOVING it.

[Savvypro]

This is an awesome way to go, I did this about 2 years ago, but I must caution that you need to insure high quality electrodes. I used electrodes I made from old kitchen stainless steel.

YouTube - Video 95 PH Acid Base Water plants Alkaline.wmv

I found that I was creating a poison..

hexavalent chromium

It was very destructive to my plants.

I do believe in this method of treating water is very helpful when done with the right electrodes, but I just want to caution against doing this on the cheap.

FYI

You beat me to it as I was going to suggest the video that was shown in your video (DIY Acid Alkaline electrolizer for plant diese - see here: YouTube - DIY Acid Alkaline electrolizer for plant diese)

[jhon]

Hey buddy, You have posted very nice one and informative one post out there about water and filtration process. Always take great care of your foods as well as drinking water... Now in this age the water got muddy and not pure coming from the tap's.... Always use the filtered and pure water for the sake of your good and healthy life.....

[Albert10]

Hi,,,
Thanks a lot for sharing this informative post on the living vs dead water.The pure difference between the two is that the the acidic is the so called dead water and the alkaline water is supposed to be the living water.

[Savvypro]

@Jetijs

The Magnesium you used, where did you get it from. Do you know what the purity was/is.

I can get Magnesium ribbon with 99.8%, quite easily - even a 1 kg block (99.8%).