What goes on in some hospitals.

[life4living]

This report refers to Australian and UK hospitals. No doubt it goes on in hospitals all around the world.

Warning: Explicit language. We apologize for the extremely explicit nature of this story, but we feel that publishing this truth, no matter how repulsive, is in the public interest and serves the greater purpose of informing patients about what can happen to them while under sedation at hospitals. Do NOT read this article if you are easily offended, grossed out or otherwise disturbed by explicit language in a medical context. The information contained in this report is NOT appropriate for children. It is, however, true. This is not a hoax.

Learn more: Doctors in training taught to physically violate unconscious patients (explicit)

[Aaron]

duct tape

Edit: deleted so it isn't taken the wrong way.

I'm writing an article that is currently 9000 words and it references
this abuse by medical students. I'll post it later when I'm done.
The focus is actually on vaccines.

[Gary]

being that they have Lawyers in America ready to sue a doctor and hospital if they look at the patient wrong, I'd doubt much of that goes on in the states.

I will say that in a place where rest is supposed to be important, the nurses bust in at any hour banging things around and waking patients up. I knew someone getting an anti-rejection IV for a transplant that was making them terribly sick and they fell asleep with an hour to go alleviating the misery. I had to practically tackle the nurses coming in to prevent them from waking the person up.

[life4living]

You surprise me, Aaron. Schoolboy humour about degrading abuse committed by elite-trained doctors on ordinary people. I wonder if you would have used the same joke if someone you loved had suffered like that.

Gary, I hope you are right. I am not sure about that though. The same insurance/compensation exists in the UK. But the medical establishment can afford the best lawyers. The same people who rule the medical establishment rule the media too.

But, as I say, I hope you are right.

[Aaron]

medical students

Sorry you took it that way. I think it is despicable what the students
are doing. It was poking fun at the stupidity of the violators.

I do not think it was funny what happened to the victims.

If it happened to my loved ones, I'd take it into my own hands to
see that the perpetrators would be unable to do so for the rest of their
lives.

[Aaron]

non-thinking medical students

It is possible the medical students wouldn't do that in America, but
I wouldn't put absolute confidence in that.

American medical students are just as naive and untethical in what they are willing to
do to patients and will do whatever the instructors tell them to do.

This is evidenced by the fact of how they "practice" their medicine on a
daily basis with vaccines, meds, you name it. They obviously learned that
these ineffective and unethical means as first treatment are the way to
help people.

[life4living]

Sorry Aaron - a knee-jerk reaction

I would like to apologise to Aaron Murakami.

I have now discovered in what context Aaron wrote his post (2nd post in this thread) and am disappointed in myself for wrongly judging a man that I have long known to be a tireless worker against the abuse of human beings and the perpetrators of it.

If one good thing has come out of my error (not an error of judgement because I knew Aaron's character and motivations when I reacted. No it was one of immature knee-jerk reaction. The old 'bad day at the office' syndrome) it is having a mirror held up in front of me showing something in me that needs attention.

Onward and upward.

Sorry Aaron.

[Gary]

A lot of people, me being one of them have looked at lawyers in America as being part of the problem in these strange times, but the way corporations and governments are treating people these days I am starting to reconsider.

In the pursuit for the dollar at any costs, many people are being absolutely trampled, and sometimes your only hope is clipping the transgressors for a few million.

I didn't mean that no abuse goes on in hospitals. I would hate to see what happens to people who are no longer physically able to protect themselves or identify things that happen, I am sure it is awful. I meant that I doubt there is any systematic or premeditated plan to have 20 students do a rectal exam on a patient without their consent while they are unconscious.

I'd imagine they would all face jail time and huge civil suits should it be found out.

[future pather]

I think I'm too squeamish to read the link but I think I get the gist from the comments...

Regarding attorneys, the law is very complicated because we try to take everyone's rights into account and that can get complex.

Attorneys are simply ones who have familiarized themselves with the laws and know how to use them.

They are more like a tool (no pun intended LOL) which can be used for good or bad, rather than bad in and of themselves.

There are great civil law attorneys who work tirelessly to preserve human rights (but there are also ones who work to represent the rights of corporations for example).

I could be wrong but I would guess all the lawyer jokes and the bad rap they get were likely the result of a smear campaign by powerful people who did not like people who knew how to use the law to protect rights.

Because if you are rich and powerful you don't really need law to help you, you just steam roll everyone.

But attorneys can stop that if the law allows.

[Aaron]

abuse by medical students

I would like to apologise to Aaron Murakami.

No problems - was not enough there probably to tell what I was getting
to.

Anyway, I removed it from the post and replaced it with this:

Edit: deleted so it isn't taken the wrong way.

I'm writing an article that is currently 9000 words and it references
this abuse by medical students. I'll post it later when I'm done.
The focus is actually on vaccines.

I apologize for any misunderstandings.

[future pather]

Speaking on vaccines. . .

It's really troubling to me that people never see the "package inserts" or the VIS (vaccine information sheets) associated with the vaccines that are done. The VISs are supposed to be given out by federal law but I bet most drs offices don't even know what they are.

It's a good stalling tactic though for anyone who's dr. is trying to convince them to get a vaccine. "Sure could I see the package insert and VIS on that and take some time to look them over at home?"

I have looked up the info online and found MSG, formaldehyde, and mercury to be among vaccine ingredients.

I have heard several stories in person of people getting way sicker than the flu ever made them after getting flu shots.

This year I have one friend who had a flu shot and now has had a bad flu on and off for about three weeks and one relative who had a pneumonia shot and just got diagnosed with pneumonia.

(I stick with my zicam cold remedy (zinc) and beat any sickness that comes my way.)

[Gary]

(I stick with my zicam cold remedy (zinc) and beat any sickness that comes my way.)

yes, I agree if you can naturally keep your resistance up, you are probably much better off than getting the flu shot. I wonder if they keep stats on how many people actually get sick right after getting it. I hear about quite a few.

For me, the key is sleep, get enough sleep, don't get sick..

Attorneys are simply ones who have familiarized themselves with the laws and know how to use them.

True, but they are also the only ones allowed to legally practice law, unless of course you are defending yourself.

Similar to Medical Doctors who have paid enough money into the schooling system to allow them to write you a prescription for something that you could locate for yourself on Wikipedia. I guess if you sit in front of a pharmacy in Mexico with a laptop you are the equivalent of a US General Practitioner.

Specialist of course in most cases are a different story...

[life4living]

Speaking on vaccines. . .

It's really troubling to me that people never see the "package inserts" or the VIS (vaccine information sheets) associated with the vaccines that are done. The VISs are supposed to be given out by federal law but I bet most drs offices don't even know what they are.

It's a good stalling tactic though for anyone who's dr. is trying to convince them to get a vaccine. "Sure could I see the package insert and VIS on that and take some time to look them over at home?"

I have looked up the info online and found MSG, formaldehyde, and mercury to be among vaccine ingredients.

I have heard several stories in person of people getting way sicker than the flu ever made them after getting flu shots.

This year I have one friend who had a flu shot and now has had a bad flu on and off for about three weeks and one relative who had a pneumonia shot and just got diagnosed with pneumonia.

(I stick with my zicam cold remedy (zinc) and beat any sickness that comes my way.)

I totally agree.

Here's a link to a report on what many doctors (those with a conscience and some courage) reveal about vaccines http://www.naturalnews.com/SpecialRe...eReport-EN.pdf