How to make healing, hydrating water, inexpensively? Information overload!

[sucahyo]

I try to post this saturday but failed.

The magnet I used was North pole (feminine side), not South. However, the back end of the magnet was on the steel bar so it was magnetizing the bar to South, but the North end is much more powerful than the South on the bar. In fact when you set a cylindrical magnet onto steel the magnet actually pushes out more gauss than before by itself, I use that in my work every day. I'll try it again and see what happens but it did help me sleep thats all I care about is SLEEP!

That is interesting.

I once use magnet as fuel booster. When I start experimenting with cemenite as fuel booster, I found that the power increase more if I take out the magnet. I use three ceramic and one neo. The boosting power of one cemenite felt stronger than all 4 magnet.


I think you should remember that magnet produce influence not just from its polarity but from its material too. And Neo is toxic.

Also Neo field is strong. It is possible that when you are exposed by north field, you are actually also being exposed to the south field too. They do not cancel each other, so you may actually receive both kind.

I'll try to find a good link on structuring water, your best bet is to buy Dr. Jhon's book that I posted a link to, but it may be hard to get where you are.

Thank you for the link and explanation .

I think penta around diseased organ may not means the penta shape is the cause, it can also be the effect.

Do you know how Dr. Jhon observe water shape?

I looked at my distilled water ice and the Penta water ice, the freezer is also cracking the ice, maybe its the cups, the distilled is milky, the Penta has more clear areas, so maybe there is some structuring from what they are doing. My bottle with a few layers of aluminum and paper is full of tiny bubbles on all the bottle walls, I need to make some more layers when I have time.....then see if it makes clear ice....

Interesting. I also observe many tiny bubble, but on water on room temperature. I wonder if that is a good or a bad sign.

BTW, I found that sometimes the water kept liquid after two days, when I tap it or touch the surface I see it froze later.



About north and south. I believe that while south can boost plant growth, excessive use will be bad. Some energizing power is good, too much can produce bad effect. There was actually research with plant, and boosting power should never be excessive or will produce opposite result.

Exposing plants to south should only be done in limited time. See this:
Robert A.Nelson: Hemp Husbandry ~ Electro-Culture (Ch 5)

I would only use energizing energy at work and use only calm energy at home. Less arguing in the house is a good thing .

[Crystalguy]

I don't know about neo being toxic energetically, I'd have to see proof of that one I think. Physically yes its toxic if you burn it or break it into pieces and inhale some of the powder, bad stuff.

The Biomagnetics Ray Davis magnets are sold here, they are expensive and they don't say if they are ceramic or neo, I'm not sure ceramic can have such a high gauss and I don't think neo's were available in the 70's when they wrote their books.
Our biomagnets have been used in decades of research by Davis and Rawls
I've been reading more of their early book and they did experiments with baby animals, that I touched on before. But, it got even more interesting. Fertile chicken eggs exposed to North and South before birth and afterwards yielded astounding results. The South pole chickens were very agressive, they killed females during sex, they became CANNABILISTIC, they attacked dogs and cats. Their nests were filthy, they weren't very smart. They had to lock them up because they were so agressive and stupid. The North pole chickens were skinny, didn't eat much, very nervous and sensitive, very smart, their nests and grooming were spotless. They lived longer than the South pole chickens. The South pole chickens burned themselves out with agressive sex, eating alot of food etc. Unfortunately they did no experiments with using BOTH poles on a third group of chickens. They did experiments on small rabbits and mice and the effects were identical. I wonder if maybe the healthiest water would be both North and South pole treated, as some are doing. Or if you need a boost drink some South pole and to relax drink North. Very fascinating subject and I have not finished the book yet.

I don't know about one pole leaking into the water with the other pole towards the water. Ray Davis proved that the north pole lines of force DON"T move down to the South. The North pole force moves to the center of the magnet and loops back up to North. South does the same thing. In the middle of the magnet there is a dead zone where you get no gauss readings, I have known this for years, and using magnetic viewing paper you can see there is no magnetism in the middle between north and south poles. So its very unlikely that any north pole field would be project down the South side.

OK, I did another experiment and made a bunch of small copper coils that are insulated, 22 gauge solid core wire from Radio Shack. Wound them on a rod about the same size are you did 1/8" and wound them clockwise, cut them different lengths but not very long and just threw them in a glass of bottled water, no salt no treatment. I got similar but more dramatic effects like the Penta water (Penta is a brand name of water sold here in the US). The water is very clear but in the middle is like an explosion starburst of long bubble trails radiating out from the center. The Penta water did this but not as much and not as clear water. I didn't taste the water but will treat another glass and try it out tomorrow. Maybe the healthiest water is coil treated, is it orgone? I found out I can use paraffin wax in organite experiment, will try to do tonite, I always have a big pan of paraffin wax here for my work so heating it up now. I'll be making one of those orgone blasters and using a quartz crystal with right hand coil around it and aluminum shavings from my lathe. Got some 12 gauge copper wire to use for the coil.

Here's some photos of the coil water....how would you tell whether this water is good or bad? We have WiFi wireless here and wonder if the coils are picking up that energy....

[Crystalguy]

I noticed something cool as the ice was melting in the sink. The coils were laid out in kind of a "C" pattern. I noticed that the cloudy area and the radiated bubble spokes FOLLOW the layout of the coils. Pretty cool.....
BTW I noticed I had wound these little coils counterclockwise not clockwise as I had thought....

[sucahyo]

People who make orgonite mention that neo make the energy chaotic. But that is from psychic point of view. The physics side unknown to me. My ice experiment show nothing:



The effect of magnet to chicken is very interesting, thanks for sharing. The thin part is interesting, but I feel weird with the very nervous and sensitive part because it seems to be conflicting. I think only magnet produce that kind of effect.


Very interesting ice result. I get spiky one too recently, but happen because I let bubble trapped on top of the freezing water:



If the water expanded then it is male. It would have energy. Good or bad depend on use I guess.

The C shape may happen because energy is circulating around nearby coil.

Your coil has the same wound as mine. But I cut each 2 loop/wound, not 8-10 loop like yours.

When you make orgone blaster. Can you separate the alumunium one from the insulated copper one? A friend mention different reaction from piece made from alumunium and piece mad from insulated copper.

[Crystalguy]

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All water expands when it freezes, all of it does, structured or not. In fact if it didn't expand there would be no life on earth, oceans would freeze from the bottom up killing all life. Water expands when it freezes and becomes less dense than water so ice foats.

Water gets more dense the colder it gets, and forms hexagonal bonds, these bonds allow the molecules to pack more tightly together. This is why structured water feels thicker in the mouth. Once it hits just past freezing though, for some mysterious reason it expands. No other substance in its class does this, or many other things water does that makes no sense. I read that if water behaved like other substances similar to it, all water would evaporate at normal temperatures and would only exist as water vapor. Scientists really don't know everything about water at all.

I am going to set the little coils upright sticking straight up and freeze and see what happens this time.

I quit drinking magnetized water for now until the Vitalizer shows up, maybe its not so good, though Ray Davis people say drink North magnetized water for health. The Vitalizer has been used by many people for years at a time with good benefits so I'll definitely be using that every day.

These people did experiments with plants only and also used N and S treatments on the same water, as well as N treatment and S treatment, very interesting:
The End of Old Age

I made my little blaster but didn't have enough aluminum shavings, I have some coming in the mail soon. But I filled about a third of the cup with aluminum shavings, and have the copper coil around a crystal and its filled with paraffin wax. Put it under my bed, NO effect at all, same old insomnia, slept for 2 hours and couldn't sleep, same as usual. I do have alot of steel/iron dust from my bandsaw so will make some orgonite with just that and epoxy resin and see if there is any effect. With your cementite and your small coils under your bed can you feel anything coming from it? Does it help you sleep and stay asleep all night?

[sucahyo]

Yes, the ice expand upon freezing, but the rate is different between male and female influence. With influence of male, water expand more.


Thanks for the link .

I believe, to restructurize things, we need to destroy it and then recombine it, male then female, south and then north.


Did you mix alumunium shaving with copper coil?

I have different opinion from most orgonite maker, I believe that alumunium produce male, and copper produce female. robur mention this recently:

: ALUMINIUM vibrates negativly with orgone field you put aluminium based orgonite to here you just make the fuse SHORTER
: ALUMINIUM is negative metal. it's vapour is a poison if yu breath it. if you make a poison into as machine to collect such energy as ORGONE you AMPLIFY THE POISON.
: ALUMINIUM CAN PRODUCE MORE POWER
: question is do you want a lot of bad power?
: i got a sentitive guy in bangladesh you know what aluminium based orgonite did?
: IT NEARLY KILLED HIM
: ALUMINIUM ORGONITE VIBRATES NEGATIVLY
: YOU PUT IT NEAR PV TV ETC IT CREATES DOR
: DOR IS still orgonite but it is negative it is like a gas
: invisible undetectable exeot those who can sence it
: but it is an energy
: it is a poisonous energy
: but it is still energy

I believe him, because of some previous experience conclusion.


My wife has sleep problem, she had to use doctor prescription to sleep. And I really hate sleeping drug because of side effect I watch my self. Now cemenite is strong enough to replace sleeping drug. Much better than off the self sleeping drug.

I use around 300 two loop coil in a hand fist size cemenite. It help my family to sleep. My son no longer wake after 10pm, my wife sleep in 10 minutes, I sleep later only because I watch TV. I also give it to my parents and it seems to help them sleep as well.

[Crystalguy]

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Odd, I posted a reply and it has disappeared?

Water doesn't need to have its structure "destroyed," the water from the tap and bottled water are already destroyed. The hydrogen bonds are extremely unstable and change bonds constantly in millionths of a second, so fast it can't be seen.

I got the Vitalizer Plus, it works well. The magnets are both North and South, so it does a balanced magnetizing in vortexing water. I like the water.

I froze water with those small coils stuck in wax so they can stand straight up. I'll post photos later, but I did not get as dramatic effect as the exploding bubble trails from before. I think energy from the coils comes out the sides, not the ends, from that experiment. I also made one long coil and wrapped it in a circle on the bottom of the cup, some effect but not like the dramatic one. Also froze water from the Vitalizer Plus and got some of the exploding bubble trails but not as dramatic as the first one. I am going to repeat the small coils lying in a circle from the dramatic photo to see if this is reproducible.

I also made some epoxy organite with aluminum shavings I bought. I think it did have an effect under my bed, and had very vivid dreams all nite. I am still using my little neo magnet aimed at my head with N pole and it helps me sleep. I just made epoxy organite with steel dust and will try that tonite. I think I might have used too much dust. I don't have any copper dust or shavings to try, I expect the effect would be softer energy. I used to build pyramid frames out of aluminum and it was preferred because of its high energy, I never had any negative effects from it. Aluminum makes up 7% of the Earth's crust so we are surrounded by it all the time ;-)

I am still reading the Ray Davis books on magnets, I ordered two more they wrote that aren't in print anymore, they really did some good work that is very fascinating to me. Just the fact that a N pole neo helps me sleep without using sleeping pills, amazes me. I ordered some of their magnets and devices to experiment with. I may get some books on Schauberger, I keep running into mentions of his work and know little about him. I'll post photos later....

[sucahyo]

I had dissapearing reply too that can be solved by logout and then login again.


I think you should not associate the effect of standing copper coil with spiky exploding bubble effect, because I only get it if the water contain bubble during freezing time, because the top freeze first. Maybe a alumunium coil would get you spiky exploding bubble effect.

With a insulated selenoid I get this:


Unpredictable result, the middle of the coil is clear, the end are foggy. I am replicating slim spurling coil with arbitrary length



I also found alumunium produce stronger energy. But 7% of alumunium in the world do not all exist as alumunium molecule isn't it? I think different molecule produce different results.


The vivid dream you experience is common on what I consider as male orgonite.

Nice to hear you can get more sleep with north pole. I think you can get same effect with 12V battery negative pole.

[Crystalguy]

I don't get exploding bubble trails with anything except energized water. The standing upright coils didn't have any of this, the lying down ones I got alot of it. I don't know what it means but, the Vitalizer water, and the Penta water both had those trails in them. Distilled and untreated water had none of that. I wonder if because the standing up coils were embedded in wax if the wax blocked the energy or something.

I will repeat the lying down coils experiment to see if it happens again. I don't get any bubbles when freezing.

So here's some new photos, standing up coils, one long single coil lying down, and Vitalizer water with no coils, treated only 9 minutes, trails but not alot...

[sucahyo]

Interesting, especially the laying copper one .

I think you should try flat spiral coil too.

[Crystalguy]

Yes a flat spiral and coils layered, but will have to do that in epoxy then charge water on top of it. I also noticed in the coils standing up that the top of the ice in the glass sort of exploded upwards, not sure if this is just a coincidence or not...

[sucahyo]

Ok. I don't think you need to epoxy it. I notice very different ice pattern from different side of insulated wire flat spiral coil.

[Doggettall]

Try this for free

You can make healing water for free, I suggest watching (on YouTube) at least 1 video on masaru emoto's work with water & how he showed the crystallization that occurred when positive words & thoughts were used to 'influence' the water & the type that occurred when negative words & thoughts were used. Just watch for understanding. If it makes sense first, you'll understand how yours WILL work for you. Skepticism is a negative energy so you're better off without it if you want to heal.

THEN, watch this much simpler video I came across that shows you how to make your own with music & words. I'd like to add that once you're done, you can also spray this water IN your mouth. In this video he talks of spraying it on yourself but I suggest ALSO spraying it in your mouth. YouTube - How to Make Healing Water ~ Quantum Physics

Best Wishes

[blackchisel97]

We have WiFi wireless here and wonder if the coils are picking up that energy....

I used to have a wireless network and got rid of. It is convenient but you have another source of electrosmog and the nasty one. This is high frequency transmitter radiating in every direction. If you're sensitive person it will affect you more than others. Fluorescent lights are another source of hf vibrations.

There is a video about the guy making hemp oil in NS, Canada. Despite being arrested on couple occasions for growing possession of controlled substance he is still helping others by giving them small portions. There are people in this video which were diagnosed with cancer and some were told to get their personal stuff in order and prepare to die. They still live and cancer free. Skin cancer was on the list as well.

I've read testimonies from people having skin cancer (melanomas) dried and gone with MMS treatment. I use MMS for the past 2 years and it works as claimed. It helped to get rid of flu, cold, inflammation (including abscess tooth which doesn't cause discomfort after 6 months), helped to heal cuts, burns and works great as natural deodorant.

I have built multilayer ORAC and tap water taste like a water after overnight. There is no placebo effect in place since it was tested with 4 people and it was blindfold test. However, I strongly believe that much better results could be obtained with copper foil instead of aluminum.

I did some tests with copper coils (cones) and water samples placed under the cone. Those tests are not finished yet, as well as other ones described in Pyramid thread.

Water will energize while being in motion and much faster in vortical movement. I didn't get this test done yet but I believe that magnetic field will play important role. I believe that magnets should be placed on the opposite sides of the glass (not lead glass!) jar or tube. Magnets should be in attractive mode and aligned with Earth magnetic field. I have intentions to try several ideas myself when time permits.

This is very interesting thread


Vtech

[borowka64]

Hello,

Does anybody have an idea for purification of water from radioactive fallout? I don't so I decide to ask here. Prognosis are rather bad and it seems that we'll be in much worst situation than 25 years ago and this is getting more global than just local problem. Before we'll be exposed to the toxic food basket we should have something allowing us to hydrate our bodies in safe manner. I did survive Chernobyl suffering couple miscarriages but lost my father and few friends. I was living within couple hundred miles from Chernobyl at that time. I developed a habit of boiling water regardless of source and while moving from Europe/ States and various places in Canada I noticed my kids responding with diarrhea, every time I forgot to do so. We simply lost a habit of drinking unboiled water. We're not camels and there are other alternatives such as coffee, tea and juices. I decided to ask this question after reading Crystalguy remarks. Usually I don't do this without asking permission first but this time it was involuntary. I "visited" you and scanned your environment. I'm not a doctor to diagnose. More like a child seeing pictures but I saw something similar in past while scanning people and I also have hyper acidity. I don't want to describe here any details but I would suggest not to drink "raw" water, even bottled or refined. Your stomach have different tolerance and you live in different climate than Sucahyo, therefore you may not benefit from any enhancement or refining of water which hasn't been boiled first.
Back to my question, is there anything we can do to limit absorption of radioactive compounds throughout the fluids which we need as much as we need air to breathe?
I was listening to Tom Bearden talking about ways of neutralizing radiation by transmutation but this isn't easy to comprehend and I'm not a "technical" person.

Thanks

Elzbieta