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  • #31
    HI

    Hi All,

    I am really grateful for this thread, cuz I was really dissapointed when i got confirmation on the BL forum being for paid customers only...

    I read the book about a week and a half ago, and have been really angry ever since and have had some really wierd things happen for me, and some really scary feelings come to me..... like what is the point of all of this if nothing really means anything....

    recently i have been soooo, angry.... alot around nothing being real and OMG i have spent so much time and energy on things that really don't matter.
    that is keeping it short..
    I can see how this works, I am frustrated and thrilled with what i am experiencing since reading this thing...
    Torn and in awe

    yes, what you were saying Zartgirl about having the tool to apply to uncomfortable feelings... but not wanting too,

    it's like when an uncomfortable feeling comes up... one of who knows how many things happens for me...
    anyways i will resist cuz i don't know what will happen next, and since i have to go to work or whatever is going on... pretty much don't want to make waves in what is set out in front of me (like i have control, or at least that kind...cuz it's all an illusion anyhow)
    or i find as i am applying the process that i am resisting and have to repeat a few times, and i become aware that i am enjoying the experience... just like how in the book he talks about the reason we read a book and watch a movie... cuz of the emotional experience we get... although we are aware of how these are not real as we are doing them....

    so it is not to say that i am enjoying these things really, cuz i do want my power back... Hmmmmm, so then in phase two perhaps i can create what i want to experience and it's on purpose opposed to being driven by an unrsolved issue...or simply put a ...... lost the thought, kiddo was talkng to me...
    anyways must go eat.... but i have more,
    this is soooo different than anything and yes very challenging to what has been life and my life and beleifs about life, yet things just never seemed to fit for me...

    So much hit home with me in BL and ME and CWG.... i happened to be reading CWG 3 at the same time too... OMG

    these three really seem to meld together very well, and have validated so much for me.. and i have been going uh huh uh huh uh huh... stuff i knew and saw and felt.


    Originally posted by adam ant View Post
    well Stephen it is good to meet you.

    actually, i ordered both books before you posted the response above.

    i started reading the ME thread, and your excitement, along with Arioch's posts are intoxicating.(i havnt even finished the second page of that thread yet)
    my desire to read these books goes way beyond curiosity, because some of the descriptions match my life (or mentality) to a "T". i have always been detached from this place, and even though i get along with everyone, i never really feel connected either.

    ive been down quite a few different rabbit holes, but this one is really intriguing.
    hi, you said in this post about being detatched and never really feeling connected....meeeeeeeeee toooooo

    and it was mentioned somewhere in book 1 or 2 of CWG
    about not connecting or something along those lines...

    ok, chow time...
    later...Adrienne
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    • #32
      I'm back

      ok, dinner is done and kiddo is in bed...

      well, in regards to what's been said about law of attraction, i saw the movie and what really stood out for me was that i got the sense that letting go and acceptance were huge things in making it work for you... didn't really look into it to much though just was hoping to get it through osmosis...lol... by watching the movie... but did get my wheels spining for sure.

      but the thing that has come to me now in reading this thread is that those two things i got out of it, were and are very signinficant, cuz they have been a struggle for me, and therefor a block in my creating what i desire, or however one wants to term it, so for me the journey carried on.... this all started for me with meeting someone who came into my life and was introducing 'the secret'
      'PATHS' and pretty much much of what i have gotten interested in and curiouse about in the last 10 months.

      I never looked into it or tried it enough to see how it was flawed or not...what ever.... although for now it seems very true for me that what I think, creates how i feel, and therefor creates what i manifest or experience in my life... not sure if that is solely a LOA thing or not...but i see it to be true for me all over the place.... and am also aware of how i am so unaware of thoughts that are going on in my head. Although, i may work my ass off at trying to manifest what i want in my life...my subconsciouse (which works behind the sceens) is sending out opposite messages than i am or may be consciously putting out there...
      I think i may have gotten a wack of this info in Bruce liptons 'Biology of Belief" so therefor i need to deal or shatter the root cause of my negative thinking...
      whether this could be put into the context of Phase one or not.. haven't given it to much thought really.. (got maxed out with busting loose)... either way i find it all intriguing

      And then into the busting loose process....Hmmm....
      well, when i apply the process, i can't even begin to describe what is happening, but i know something is totally happening, cuz i feel it. things being released, I feel different inside... and i want to share about how so many amazing things have been happening, and it is almost like the appreciation is automatic too...cuz i actually notice the awesome things where at one point I sluffed things off....
      back to what i was saying.... I have spent years, literally years doing counselling, and recovery stuff, and emotional healing... and never have i noticed such dramatic differences..... so fast, BOOM...BOOM..just like that...

      OK, granted this just may be happening at a time of huge change anyways????? duh...lol

      in all these other ways it never really seemed to dissolved anything.... at least not effectively... lots of residue always left over.... or something

      now my mind is becoming boggled cuz, there is so much I struggle with in concieving right now...
      My intellect has been maxed out.....lol
      which really is good, cuz intellect has been a survival skill for me...and gosh darnit I desire to grow and exspand.

      so intellect has been shut down.... like an out dated computer.... can not compute, warning.... will self destruct..... lol..... this is a very good thing for me.... cuz i could always come up with something....lol
      now i am at a loss.... and only have my feeling to direct me.
      wierd thing too is that, my head hurts if i even attempt to understand this...it will come to me when i am ready to understand it...Sigh...

      Am in a dormant/processing mode right now.... and since my head is out of the game... have my heart/gut/feelings and my handy dandy tool kit...hehe

      very new place for me...
      k, thanks for listening....
      Glad ya'll are here........Adrienne
      Last edited by Adrienne; 10-10-2007, 04:06 AM.
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      • #33
        wow Adrienne, thank you fro sharing your story. I think i ll venture into reading BL book too . I loved the ME book.....
        Work and live in Slovenia - the country that hasn´t been touched by economic crisis. 10 000+ employees needed

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        • #34
          Major breakthrough...

          Ooooh! this is sooooo cooool! I had this major breakthrough of understanding today! It started with my cell phone ringing... I was laying on my bed wimpering cause I had a major migraine, and when the cell phone started ringing... Well you can imagine my responce! It was a dear friend from here Grace! Well suddenly the cell phone ringing was a exciting and not well... You know what I mean!

          She had called me to answer a question I had asked on the CEM thread, and while talking to her she said something to me that clarified soooo much for me! She said "That in between the physical matter is God!" Wow! A light bulb went off in my head! Well I know in the book it says that, and I know Stephen has told me that a number of times... It says in the Bilble that I have studied intensly that God Dwells in ME, but well I just had never gotten that "GOD" actually is the matter in between all the physical matter, like the glue that holds me together! GOD had always been something OUT THERE... okay I knew he was omnipotent here, there, and everywhere, but like how? Oh you should know I come from a Pentecostal background, so we deal in the spirit all the time, but I still did not get the whole spirit thing completely, because to me the Spirit was distant... Someting out there that I was not conected to, but should somehow be connected to!

          So today when Grace told me that GOD was in between the physical matter, it HIT ME BIG TIME! That is how we are all one, that is how all of this works! You know the extended self (spirit) and the physical self, and everyone being connected as Stephen is always telling me we are all one conciousness! Suddenly it all made sense! Hmmmm! I spent the rest of the day driving around and doing what I felt I needed to accomplish today totally engrossed in the thought that GOD lives in between the physical matter in me, in the car in front of me, in the person in front of me, in everyone here! We really are one conciousness... I get this NOW!


          Love and Gratitude
          Sallyjane zartgirl

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          • #35
            wow

            very cool Sallyjane
            thanks for sharing....Adrienne
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            • #36
              Sallyjane, thank you for sharing that with us! It is amazing how some people can pick up on a concept explained one way....and others need it explained another way! This makes perfect sense for me as well!

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              • #37
                I got game!

                Hi Folks!

                Just wanted to pop in (lol, into your hologram) and give greetings and salutations!

                The BL phenomenon is rather incredible if we step back and take a moment to Observe what is going on 'round here.

                You get this book - simple matter, words typed on pages. Yet, you start to read it and WITHOUT actually DOING anything, your 'world' starts to change. Things you once thought were outside of you, shift and change. VERY uncomfortable scenarios of your worries, fears, 'issues' aka OOZE, suddenly pop up in your life en masse. WTF?

                To me, this is the greatest 'proof', if some is needed, that the BL model of life is at least one significant step closer to the 'Truth'. However, it comes with great responsibility, namely, YOUR OWN, that YOU are creating it all, as observed from your perspective.
                The beautiful thing about acquiring your X-ray vision, and having your Expanded Self bring you the self-limiting eggs, is that you have the TOOLS, to do something proactive with it!!! Yes, the Process is extremely powerful! I haven't had too many Eggs brought to me lately, it seems that most were dealt with within the first month or two of Phase Two awareness, but a doozy came the other day. What a experience diving RIGHT INTO THE MIDDLE OF THE 'PAIN' and TELLING THE FREAKIN' TRUTH ABOUT IT!!! I FELT the waves of 'energy' pulsing through me. And just because I like to change things up a bit, , I also made sure I was aware of the Observer watching 'me' and these feelings/egg (Power of Now stuff). To put a sweet cherry on top, and get a little crazy, I threw in some M.E. with a magick circle to leave that 'Self' out there to experience the rest of the Process while I continued on with the rest of the day's activities. However, the last two aren't necessary for you to make the BL 'work'!

                I am very GRATEFUL for becoming aware of the Busting Loose ideas!
                I am extremely GRATEFUL for YOU, all my wonderful, perfect, awesome ACTORS! You ALL deserve OSCARS and I love you all!

                May you enjoy the world I am creating anew to reflect the very BEST, which is all there truly is, of my Expanded Self!

                In gratitude and love,

                tephen

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                • #38
                  you know Stephen? i think this post answers one of my questions from the ME thread in regards to the traffic issue.

                  i have had an extremely ACTIVE life, even though i just turned 30. every aspect of my life has had huge amounts of turmoil, resulting in many many large power eggs. well that day in traffic, they all seemed to come back at once. i hate traffic with a PASSION!!! i was reclaiming power from all sorts of eggs, but results were not coming fast enough. i kept saying to myself "if this BL is really true, why isnt the traffic going away?!?!?!?"




                  and now i see the relationship between MatrixE and BustingL.... each of them represent one half of the universe!! the first half is Busting Loose in that we are the creators in our universe, but it steers us in a reactive sense.

                  Matrix energetics balances out BL by giving us proactive tools to work with...
                  this means we have defensive powers AND offensive powers.

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                  • #39
                    Adam

                    Adam...
                    Also remember that when you apply the process... NO AGENDAS! In other words apply the process in the traffic regain the power that is stored in those eggs completely (as much as is possible at that time) and then move into gratitude towards yourself for being soooo powerful and creative to actually have created a traffic jam enroute to whereever you are going! GRATITUDE is major in this equation.

                    Well I don't really ever have to deal with traffic jams here... Although I do come across the more than occassional tractor slowly moving down the highway! I have always been really good at creating these tractors in areas of the highway where there is just NO place to pass them! Oh yea! LOL! More importantly for me, I have this desire to move back to my California where I was raised. Before I had read BL... I absolutely hated living where I am in Walla Walla Washington! LOL! Since reading BL and processing a great many eggs and reclaiming lots of power... Walla Walla really isn't all that bad, actually don't tell anyone, but I am actually starting to appreciate the beauty of the Walla Walla Valley! That is a major secret though!!! That does not say that my desire to move back to California isn't still there, but I am okay staying here till my ES allows that move or whatever move is in my future... I am learning not to limit the ES because it may have much more awesome plans for my life.

                    I use to really get frustrated with traffic and tractors... But I have learned that sometimes my ES puts those road blocks up in front of me for reasons! In 1989 I was supposed to be on the Oakland bridge when the big earthquake hit, but I wasn't because something else happened and I ended up not being in SF that day... I was still in the Bay Area, but I was not on the sections of road that collapsed. But most of the time our ES creates these situations so we can have an opportunity to reclaim power from those eggs.

                    You know if we could just "Poof" away a traffic jam, or "Poof" a new hologram such that... Say I could be living in a home of my own and not in a shelter... "Poof" all the discomfort away... Where is the fun in that? Stephen asked me that the other day? Although I am still trying to find the fun in living in a shelter and sharing one room with both of my kids... LOL Let me tell you as this hologram changes it is going to be soooooo awesome!!!! I am going to be sooooo grateful that I have a home to live in and an awesome life! This "Process is awesome in bringing us to a place of healthyness! So next time you are sitting in your car in a traffic jam that may be going slower than my tractors travel out here in the sticks! HEHE

                    Tell the truth about it!
                    Reclaim the power!
                    Then bask in the Gratitude of the fact that you created this traffic jam!

                    Then in five minutes later when the traffic still has not moved 5 or 6 feet, and you feel that frustration level rising... Start all over!

                    Remember, Stephen tells me this all the time when I am all upset and stuff that the traffic is not BAD or EVIL or what ever.... Try to not judge it! Trust me I know how hard this is! I am about to start my third month living in a shelter! You created the traffic to create a situation that would reveal to you EGGS! So rejoice in that!

                    I am starting to think that when I started my agendas got in the way of my true self, and so now I am learning to not apply agendas to the process and just let my ES take back the power and determine what my new hologram will look like! I don't know if it will get rid of the tractors or not.... Maybe I create those tractors as a way of spending more time with myself! You know it is like the car that insists on going the speed limit in front of you... I create those probably to slow myself down so I don't get a ticket... I am sure someday I will be able to create the drive with out the police cars there if I want to! Heheee!

                    Love and Gratitude zartgirl Sj

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                    • #40
                      so then how do you apply intent without having an agenda? isnt that contradictory?


                      as you say your ES stopped you from going onto the bridge before the earthquake... didnt your ES also CREATE the earthquake in the first place?
                      Last edited by adam ant; 10-12-2007, 04:16 PM.

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                      • #41
                        Agendas

                        Hehee, Yea! That is the tricky part Applying the process without an agenda! When I first read that in the BL book... I was like "WHAT? HOW? WHY?". Well he explains it quite well in the chapter that he introduces you to the process of Why.

                        To be honest until I started to read "The Power of Now" by eckhart Tolle I really had a hard time doing the process without an agenda! That and a lot of time spent talking with Stephen and Grace on IM and phone. The only way I can apply the process without an agenda, is to be in the NOW. For me that was hard, cause I did not like the NOW as my hologram is not the way I wanted it to be. Well I still want my hologram to change in a major way, but I have given up on determining how it will look exactly!

                        Now you are probably thinking but if you give up on how it will look then how will you create what you want in your hologram. I trust my ES! My ES knows what my true self wants more than I do. When you give up YOUR AGENDA (which is future thinking and placing an oppinion or judgement on what ever is making you uncomfortable), then you just apply the process, and observe (from the power of Now) all the chatter going on in your head (a major part of that is your agenda) you neutralize the slow vibrations and allow the process to work and your true self to reclaim power from the eggs.

                        But when you apply the process with an agenda... You are actually placing limits on the process and less power can be reclaimed. In the book it says that an agenda will nulify the process, because you are passing judgement. I believe that when we have an agenda we are actually reinforcing the eggs instead of collapsing them.

                        Trust me! This was a major blockage for me! It really held me back in my journey through phase 2. One reason was that my agenda was limiting, but 2nd was that when my hologram did not change to exactly what I wanted as you said the traffic did not get out of your way, I got really frustrated and angry and thought this is not working! You can ask Stephen who patiently talked to me and got me turned back around until the next time I did not get it Poofed into my hologram. It was both Stephen and Grace who have been working with me as a tag team, walking me through this and teaching me all this. It was not till this week that I did not get the job I wanted and everything I was thinking it would provide for me, that the big breakthrough came. Okay I have also been attempting to read the Power of Now... Attempting, because it is hard for me to read... Not as in I don't understand it, but it scares me a little bit, but I am starting to soak in what I am reading... I think I about ready for the book now! LOL!

                        Let me tell you something though... When you give up your agenda, and just apply the process. Learn to observe your self chatter going on in the mind, and start blasting those memes out of the mind... You come to this place where Walla Walla can be beautiful, and sitting behind a tractor going very slow on a highway is an awesome opportunity to enjoy your own company or that of your families. I find it a great time to sit an observe my self chatter, and you know what as you learn to observe you start to neutralize the negative memes that are self defeating. They begin to make no sense at all! There is a peace in this life when you stop living with agendas and start to let life just flow.

                        Today, I thought it would be good to take my Washington Drivers test, and get my Drivers licence moved from Oregon to WA. This afternoon I have a deep desire to take my teenager for a long walk around the park. In between I will work on some tests for the temp job agency. I am starting to just let my ES lead me to where I need to be. It is actually quite fun and adventurous, but relaxing. My ES knows exactly where my good job is, and it knows exactly what I will do beyond that! Today is just about today.

                        zartgirl sj
                        P.S. I know this is hard to swallow, but your ES has much bigger more awesome things in store for you than you do!

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                        • #42
                          Wonderful Sallyjane

                          This brought tears of joy to my eyes:

                          Let me tell you something though... When you give up your agenda, and just apply the process. Learn to observe your self chatter going on in the mind, and start blasting those memes out of the mind... You come to this place where Walla Walla can be beautiful, and sitting behind a tractor going very slow on a highway is an awesome opportunity to enjoy your own company or that of your families. I find it a great time to sit an observe my self chatter, and you know what as you learn to observe you start to neutralize the negative memes that are self defeating. They begin to make no sense at all! There is a peace in this life when you stop living with agendas and start to let life just flow.
                          Thank you SO SO MUCH!

                          You have an incredible gift in how you write. You have an amazing way of both explaining the more technical but also sharing the feelings (the more important part) behind the experiences you are having!

                          Love and light,

                          tephen

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                          • #43
                            "be in the now" now im really going to have fun with your head...

                            if there is no such thing as "time" then define "be in the now"

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                            • #44
                              actually im having a much easier time with BL than i am with the Two point.

                              when i Tell the Truth, it is easy to think "this is not real" and then reclaim the power. but as a passive technique, it is frustrating when you want to move forward instead of reclaiming eggs from your "past".

                              i am having fun with all of this right now, and my wife looks at me funny when im deep in thought and then burst out laughing for no apparent reason.

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                              • #45
                                Time to share a thought about time!

                                Originally posted by adam ant View Post
                                "be in the now" now im really going to have fun with your head...

                                if there is no such thing as "time" then define "be in the now"
                                I love to have fun with my head, so why shouldn't you?

                                Time, as shared in The Power of Now is either Psychological Time or Clock Time.

                                Psychological time is CREATED by the Ego-mind for its own reasons of survival. Living in the past and creating an identity of 'self' based on experiences, events, acquisitions (materially or otherwise) is the goal of the ego-mind.

                                The ego-mind also creates the idea of Future by living in a future. A future where there is 'Salvation', namely, 'if I can only have, do or be this, then I will be 'happy, fulfilled, complete'. This is also the place of energy-wasting worries, wherein no benefit is received except by the ego-mind's resulting further entrenchment of a false 'self'.

                                Psychological time is an illusion and false, for there is no other place but the Now. As I will share, even the 'Now Moment' as it is often called, is not TIME.

                                First though, Clock time is something created by consciousness, illusory as well, for the use of experiencing life SITUATIONS. Your 'life' is not the same as your life situations. Your LIFE goes beyond time and space and exists, it just IS. Clock time is useful and allows for a temporary experiential existence on the physical plane. Beyond this plane, where there is no time experience, things are perceived all at once, like a big wide schmear of events, as opposed to the perception of linear time, the step by step,existence that is what we are normally accustomed to.

                                So for me, being in the Now is stepping out of time. In that place of BEing and an awareness of all that IS, is where the Ego-mind dissolves. It is a very INSECURE entity. And entity is a pretty accurate description. IT is NOT YOU. The ego has some value, but not when it runs your whole life including all your perceptions. This is the source a particularly insidious insanity that affects human life on the planet today. Living without awareness of the Ego-mind is living unconsciously, giving up your power of choice to unconscious programming that at some point, you (just a general 'you' here, not picking on YOU lol) may decide no longer serves you.

                                Bringing about the Observer to simply put attention on the Ego-mind, in the Now, dissolves it and all its games. This is INCREDIBLY POWERFUL and cannot be overemphasized. However, one has to be ready to embark upon this course. The Observer is like the proverbial big flashlight on the alleged criminal who is undergoing interrogation. Shining that flashlight of the Observer brings out the Truth of what is going on!

                                I believe the Now moment is out of time because I ask: Just how long is the 'present'? A second? A millisecond? A picosecond? How small do we go to say 'this is how long a moment is? I say that it is not measureable, for it is not 'in time', at least not by any means I am aware of.

                                In Gratitude,

                                tephen

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