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  • #46
    Adam Ant

    Originally posted by adam ant View Post
    "be in the now" now im really going to have fun with your head...

    if there is no such thing as "time" then define "be in the now"
    You are going to have fun with my head? Sorry I don't mean to laugh so hard, but well as I always tell Stephen who talks about intellectualizing... I have an advantage because I don't have an intellectual particle in my body! I don't know if it is because I am an artist who lives in her own little world or because I am blond clear to the root...
    Trust me I have frustrated more than a few!

    Here is the deal, I was trying to explain this to someone else and even my 13 year daughter that you have to read BL and the Power of Now and books like that with your heart not your mind. If you try to read with you mind then you will analyze every little part of it.

    I think the real reason I do not intellectualize is because as a kid and a very creative kid, I was what they would today label with a learning disability... Well I actually learn differently than most do. I finally just got frustrated with school and learning and checked out. I was already a creative spirit, so I found it easier to go to what I thought of as my safe place, where I could create my world anyway I wanted to. I would then draw that world out on paper, and later paint it on canvas. I learned quickly to get the smart kids to do all my homework while I would draw pictures. My smart friends still talk about this and laugh! I promise that I did not beat them up or anything!

    Do you have a favorite music that touches the heart? It moves inside your spirit as you listen to it. That is how you want to read these books. I read all books this way. If it does not touch my spirit, then I put the book down till it does, or I don't read it! If you read these books with your spirit and not your mind you will come to understanding much quicker and find that inner peace. Eventually, you will also reach that point where your hologram starts to take on the image of what your true self really wants for you!

    For me the NOW is not about time... It is a place where I find peace and understanding about things I have never understood before! It is really hard to put into words that which you know intuitively. It is something you have to feel and experience for yourself.

    For me life is about dancing to a different beat. It is about speaking to the spirit and feeling, touching, experiencing words instead of reading them. This journey for me is to return to that place where I can create my own world. This can not happen in the mind, but has to happen in the spirit!

    Love and Gratitude zartgirl sj

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    • #47
      two excellent replies! thank you both.




      my point of that was to bring attention to the ME method of time travelling.
      if time can be "observed" in numbers going backwards, then it should also work forwards. imagine you are starting guitar lessons. you should be able to two point with this intention "how would my guitar skills be if i practiced everyday for 1, 2, 3, 4, 5, 6, 7, 8, 9, 10 years?" or something of that nature.

      is this subject broached in the seminars?

      -b

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      • #48
        You're welcome Adam Ant

        Originally posted by adam ant View Post
        two excellent replies! thank you both.
        my point of that was to bring attention to the ME method of time travelling.
        if time can be "observed" in numbers going backwards, then it should also work forwards. imagine you are starting guitar lessons. you should be able to two point with this intention "how would my guitar skills be if i practiced everyday for 1, 2, 3, 4, 5, 6, 7, 8, 9, 10 years?" or something of that nature.
        is this subject broached in the seminars?
        -b
        You are CORRECT!

        I have used M.E. this way several times!

        The subject is broached I'll say, YES!

        Interest piqued a wee bit more, hmmm?

        In gratitude!

        tephen

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        • #49
          ya, my mind never stops, and i dont think i would want it to. ive read both books, just trying to perfect technique... errr resume the results i was getting at first.






          -b
          Last edited by adam ant; 10-14-2007, 04:53 AM. Reason: added smiley

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          • #50
            Please!

            Originally posted by sterlingpg View Post
            You are CORRECT!

            I have used M.E. this way several times!

            The subject is broached I'll say, YES!

            Interest piqued a wee bit more, hmmm?

            In gratitude!

            tephen
            Aren't you being the tease now, Stephen!

            Might you not be willing to say more? Please? You've certainly piqued my interest! For what purposes might one do that? I'm having a little trouble getting my creative thinking cap on.

            Thanks,
            Chris

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            • #51
              Adam Ant / Brian

              Originally posted by adam ant View Post
              my point of that was to bring attention to the ME method of time travelling.
              -b
              Umm... Well I have not bought the ME book or studied any of the ME yet. I am very interested in both ME and CEM...

              I am still working on the Power of Now book. You said your mind never stops! Mine never really got started! I think it is an Artist thing, because we tend to naturally tap into the creative spirit naturally instead of into the brain. That said... It takes me a long time to read some books, because they overwhelm me! I literally have to set them down and just let my heart process the information at its own pace. My mind never even knows why I have to set it down and not read for awhile! I am not even sure what I got hung up on in the Power of Now or why! I just know I had to put the book down for a while. The bonus to this is that once it enters and is processed... I go into a hyper growth spirt! My ES shows me emence amount of truth about who I am and reclaims huge amount of power for me!

              So, I know that you are probably still trying to figure out how to apply the process without an agenda! LOL Thats okay! It took me a while too!!! I feel the need to challenge you to try to attempt to turn off the brain for a while! Intellectualism will keep you banging your head up against the wall and may be the reason why NO AGENDA is so hard for you! In the Power of Now it talks about how the constant running of the brain or mind is actually counter productive to acheiving all that you are trying to achieve. For me it meant turning off the constant chatter of memes or negative thoughts like "you arn't worthy" and that kind of thing... But for you it will be that constant analyzing of every word you read!

              I have noticed in your posts that each post I answer for you, you come back and one word has triggered a whole new thought pattern, and your brain is now off and running in a new direction. This is your minds way of distracting you and keeping you from the Real Magik that Stephen talks about! Stephen would be a good person to talk to about this as he has told me, that this was the thing that really slowed him down!

              Now the way you do that is to become an observer of this pattern. When a single word triggers the mind to start running in a new direction, sit back and watch it with your spirit. Observe every moment of the analyzing, and look at where it is taking you! Is it distracting you from the real message that your ES was trying to show you? Probably! Your mind wants you to listen to it and not to your ES. So when your mind picks out a word and starts to run with it, observe it and also observe what it is trying to distract you from. You have a lot of information in your mind, but now it needs to go to the heart, so you can feel it and experience it, and live it!

              Remember, that you are creating both me and Stephen here to tell you some of these things. I find it interesting that you picked an intellect and a creative spirit to work together! That was some awesome creation on your ES's part! Although Stephen is an intellect, he has learned to shut down the mind and feel it like I do naturally! I tell you it will make all this so much easier when you shut off the mind and tap into the feelings, and actaully start to experience it and live it! You think this is exciting now! Just wait till your mind is out of the picture. The book "The Power of Now" is a book I would recommend to you to read. It will really help you to turn off that constant running of the mind that is distracting you from the magik you want to experience!

              Love and Gratitude
              zartgirl Sallyjane
              P.S. you are an amazing creator, because over the last few days I have been dealing with a head cold (applying the process to regain the power from a pattern of chronic discomfort over the years). I have to tell you I believe the only coherrent thoughts I have had were the ones I wrote to you! I had a problem even applying the process to this discomfort, because I would forget what I was doing in the middle of it! So to be able to write out anything coherent... Is and amazing creation! LOL!

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              • #52
                i have purposely developed my brain to be somewhat "one tracked" to help me stay more focused. the only problem, as you pointed out, is that i cant always pick what track im on!! but here is the good news, eventually i always come back to the original topic... as i seem to keep them always at hand. i imagine this is sort of like a train, with the Engine as the current thought, and all others i want to address get organized behind it like the rest of the cars. once i exhaust the engine, it goes to the back and the next thought comes up.

                amazingly, these last two years i have been able to run "multiple trains of thought" at the same time. it gets very tiring after awhile though.



                artistic... hmm, if i were to class my artsitic abilities, it would be like that of van Gough or Pablo Picasso. (intellectual artists)
                my family on my moms side is all artists... my grandfather is an accomplished painter, my uncle owns a huge Graphic Design studio in Chicago(which i also studied for a while), my other uncle used to draw flawlessly, his sons are drawing experts, and even my mom is into interior decorating.
                im not good at freehand art like painting or drawing, but as far as design goes, i can hold my own, and i also do natural and abstract photography.

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                • #53
                  One tracked...

                  That is cool that you have that design instinct... I also believe that you could learn to draw and paint... My guess is that you judge yourself to harshly! You try to make it perfection... I am guessing this just from reading your posts. One thing I learned early on is that nature is not perfect (well it is in the fact that it is nature and made the way it is, but..). Take a flower... Not every leaf is shaped the same, and flowers are not perfectly symetrical either. When I was little I use to try to draw them symetrical and perfect, but it was not till I just allowed myself to draw the imperfections of the flower that the flower looked perfect! Does that make sense?

                  Hmmmm... So what does this have to do with busting loose? Everything! You said you would be an intellectual artist one who spends great deal of time planning and organizing a painting... I find it interesting that you chose Van Gough... The man went MAD! I am not sure if it was from trying to reach perfection or licking / cleaning his brushes in his mouth (Lead poisoning) or a combination of both. The point being that striving for perfection with the mind is insanity!

                  When I paint I paint from the heart... Yes, I have an idea of what I want to paint, but it is not till I start to put the paint on the page that the true idea comes to life. I do not see a completed painting when I start. I do not see a completed design when I start with my illustration or graphic design. I start to work and the image or story starts to come to life on the page. Sometimes I paint with my right hand and sometimes I paint with my left hand... Whatever strikes my fancy! Sometimes the original message changes completely with my paintings. What is interesting is that if you were to look at my work you would say I spend endless hours on details, but in actuallity my paintings look detailed but are not...

                  The reason I am telling you this is to get back to the idea of turning off the mind and really focussing on the feelings and the heart! I know this is going to be hard, because you have trained yourself very well to trust your mind. You have invested a lot into your mind, but in this journey it is about learning to trust your heart and your feelings and shutting down the mind... Not like becoming dull in thought, but to the point of turning off the ego and the constant chatter in your head that distracts you from connecting with your conciousness in a deep way. Trust me you will still be able to have awesome discussions! Stephen and Grace and my friends here all do! I believe more so, because we are not tied to the minds chatter and control!

                  The mind wants to control and limit us! Keep us away from our conciousness and unlimited abundance that is out there for us in every area of our lives. To get back in touch with your true self / Extended self the mind has to be shut down and the power reclaimed from it.

                  We are back to observing the mind and all its workings... And applying the process without agendas and reclaiming as much power as is absolutely possible. Here is the cool part when we get to the point of Busting Loose, we will then be in a place to create anything we want to create in our lives. As the author says "Play with any idea or concept we want to play with for the fun of it". You can then have appreciation (money) just appear in your accounts, or you can create a business model to create the appreciation. You get to choose how the actors in your hologram act when interacting with you... You will be in full charge of your world, in a way that goes way beyond what your mind is offering you. Your mind is actually controlling you not you controlling your mind (even as hard as you try to control it, it still controls you). Your mind is part of your ego, and it does not want to loose control of you so it is going to do everything possible to keep control of you.

                  Hmmmmm... just in case you are wondering... I don't sidetrack easy! Because, I work from the heart... It will not let me get off track when working with you. Your ES created me here to tell you this and because I am working from the heart... I am led to just keep on this same subject till it sinks in or I get led to another subject or person to keep going on. Now you have a choice to choose to do what I am talking about or not! That is the awesomeness of all of this... We have a choice in it! I am still learning too, and I have only been here for a short while soaking up the information from others. So when I started answering your posts it was definitely a heart thing because my mind still does not think I know anything! I think I will keep it that way, because then I can not depend on it!

                  Love and Gratitude zartgirl Sallyjane

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                  • #54
                    HI

                    thank you for all that you have all shared.

                    I am not going to work today cuz my boy is fighting a chest cold, and he need mom to take care of him..

                    well, or i created this so that the HUGE egg that is here could comeinto my hologram and show itself...which is more likely...
                    I get pissy when things don't go my way... and when things are interfering with my AGENDA... which yes the agenda in it self if it actually worked would make life seem easy and fluid...... but i guess it's all the stuff in between that matters, and that is where god/ES is....
                    The Power of NOW, was recomended to me by Pamela and stephen and now it is pasted all over these posts....

                    Darn library....lol Someone else has my book

                    I would love to hear more about the diving into the uncomfortable feelings, as that I think i am/have felt uncomfortable most of the time... and therefor to hear of ones process of doing this would be helpful i hope.

                    thank you SallyJane for posting on the ways of reconnecting to self... that has helped me be on the moment more... like siting in silence and listening within the silence... been doing that everynight since you sujusted it... and also listening to music that touches my soul... I am working on the creative stuff...
                    have bought the ingredients for my favorite cake...
                    almond cherry bunt cake...YUM
                    and am also getting the art supplies for my son, he's excited about that...
                    Crazy thing is...I find that my ego or whatever it is, is constantly side tracking me...

                    In the moment, In the moment, In the moment
                    It's the only thing on my mind right now...
                    can't wait to get "The Power Of Now"

                    What i find helps me too, is that when something happens to me...lol...OK, in my hologram, then i tell myself that this doesn't give me identity, it's not who i am....

                    and it doesn't make me whi i am... those things are illusion created by me to convince me that i am the opposite of who i am....And Holy COWFISH... they seems so damn real... wow am I ever powerful to have created this.....

                    Although when convinced of it's realness, it sure has been difficult to come back to that or even wrap my mind around it.

                    thank, love and gratitude......Adrienne
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                    www.paths-makeithappen.com

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                    • #55
                      I find it interesting that you chose Van Gough... The man went MAD!
                      yup


                      Take a flower... Not every leaf is shaped the same, and flowers are not perfectly symetrical either. When I was little I use to try to draw them symetrical and perfect, but it was not till I just allowed myself to draw the imperfections of the flower that the flower looked perfect! Does that make sense?
                      yes, it makes perfect sense, according to your specific perception. i do see the illusion of the beautiful flower(my favorites thinsg to photograph) but i REALLY like the cells, DNA, and atomic structures... which are perfectly symmetrical.

                      i bounce back and forth between the two, trying to find that perfect balance between symmetry and asymmetry, chaos and order, good and bad, light and dark, Yin and Yang... at the same time.

                      after all, to observe one doesnt make the other go away, they both are still there regardless of it being a hologram, light, frequency, ether or whatever.

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                      • #56
                        The music in the silence

                        Adam Ant (I believe is Brian, right?)

                        I was reminded of something in Adriennes post...

                        The Silence! Can you stand it? When people ask me what my favorite music is or song... I always say the same thing "The MUSIC in the SILENCE" it is not performed by any human band, it just is there when you sit quietly in he silence tuning out any noise that man might make where you are. Most people can not stand silence as it drives them nutty. They have to have their MP3 players or stereos or whatever making noise drowning out the silence. To me there is music there that is more beautiful than anything the human mind can make! It is so totally awesome! It is in the silence that I paint my best paintings, and it is in the silence that I write my best creative short stories, and it is the silence that I often get the answers to my toughest questions, or where I left my keys... It is there in the silence that you can hear what I have always called that small still voice (that is a bible reference, because that is my training), but what you really find or hear is GOD, your ES, the Field, the Universe, or whatever you want to call it. It is in the silence that you can be in the NOW, and really listen to your intuition / heart / whatever you call it...

                        Argghhhhhhh! Again, it is in the silence that the mind screams the loudest, and that is why most people do not have the courage to brave the silence and want to avoid it at all costs! In the Silence is a place where you can really just sit and observe your mind and see it for what it is! The reason your mind will scream at you is because it does not want you to hear that small still voice, your true self calling to you to remember ME! It has to desparately fight against the silence, because the silence is not silent at all, there is beautiful music in the SILENCE!

                        I challenge you to sit in the silence and observe your mind and listen for the music in the Silence! It is Freakin' Awesomeness!

                        When I was still in my house with my x, I lost my ability to hear the music in the Silence (Field), because all I could hear was his voice telling me awful things about who I was, but since I have left I can now sit in the Silence and listen to the music there! Let me tell you, the Silence never tells me that I am awful or bad or anything else negative! The Silence sees Awesomeness in me!

                        Adrienne was telling me that when she sits in the Silence and listens to it, it is easier to apply the process of the Busting loose. I think she is right! Even when I am driving with my kids in the car and need to apply the process, I have to ask my kids for Quiet time, so Mom can Process this discomfort! It is also easier to stay focussed on the process and not get distracted and forget what you were doing.

                        Love and Gratitude
                        Sallyjane zartgirl

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                        • #57
                          silence... i could stand for some of that. i have tinnitus in my ears from working with heavy weapons in the military. there is no silence for me.
                          when others talk about hearing the "HU" all i hear is a solid tone, like one would hear in the classic "This is only a test of the american broadcast system" doooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooo

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                          • #58
                            Ouch!!!

                            Brian, that would be very uncomfortable! I personally can hardly stand that sound when they test the emergency testing system!

                            Remember how I told you a few posts up that I have frustrated more than a few... (mostly men don't know why?)

                            Okay here is my suggestion...

                            Hmmmm... remember in the book how it says to process any discomfort? Well I believe this qualifies as serious discomfort!

                            So as you feel this discomfort (which is probably all the time apply the process... Now here is the deal apply the process without an agenda
                            Yea I know it seems logical to want to apply the process to get rid of the ringing in the ears, right? But instead just apply the process while being in that place we call the NOW! Don't worry if it shuts off the ringing right away or not... Just keep applying the process! The point is to reclaim the power that the discomfort holds from you. Eventually, as you reclaim more and more power from that egg, and other eggs healing comes. As you start applying the process to that issue, it might bring about more issues from the time you spent in the service...

                            For me when I first started I was applying the process to all the discomfort I had from my divorce and custody issues. I was applying the process all the time! Ofcourse for a while I had an agenda to get what I wanted from the situation... Nothing happened! Then I finally came to the understanding that I could have NO Agenda! 1. because it was interfering with me reclaiming the power from the eggs being shown to me. 2. What I wanted is most likely a lot less than my ES wanted to give to me. So just apply the process and know that a total transformation will take place in you. It will be more awesome than you can even imagine!

                            Here is another thing... Watch what you say and how you say it. For years I HAD a chronic sinus and bronchial problems. So when I started to feel my sinus discomfort this last week, not only did I apply the process but I started rephrasing what I said about it. Notice that I said here that I HAD a chronic, because I do not want to give power to the egg I was processing. So start to rephrase any statements that refer to the ear discomfort you had in the past, not that you have it still.

                            Well enough harping on this subject! Like I said I have frustrated many!

                            Love and Gratitude Sallyjane zartgirl

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                            • #59
                              WOW, BL is really mind blowing. It will take awhile to accept all that. I started to practice The Process at the moment I ve read about it as I got so many issues comming directly to me like a big truck . But I got the power from the Eggs.
                              I think Phase 2 is a foundation for building a new life - better game to play.

                              Do you think ME is a tool to help you in The Process or is it a Phase 2 tool, when you allready bust loose?
                              How do you think PATHS relates to Pahse 1 and Phase 2 tools?
                              As I see it and understand the book, everything what is important is the Process and getting back the power with no agendas to play the Human Game and to make it more fun and all other tools are obsolete....
                              Huh, I get more questions with every chapter....now I understand how most of you felt...
                              Work and live in Slovenia - the country that hasnīt been touched by economic crisis. 10 000+ employees needed

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                              • #60
                                Like I said I have frustrated many!
                                no frustration here, i dont have any desires to change you.




                                as for the rest, i have been getting better and better at this and the ME processes. Busting loose for defense(reactive) and ME for offense(proactive)

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