I want to learn TRV? But it seems so expensive..

[krzysiek]

Hey guys,

I do a lot of reading on here, decided to make an account though as all of my questions cannot go unanswered!

I am on PATHS at the moment, started about 3 days ago, and although I have not experienced any improvements from what I can tell, I am still optimistic.

I would DEFINITELY like to look into TRV but I cannot afford it. I have had a look at PSITechs website, and the courses are around US$1200, convert it to Australian dollars and it just seems much too high for me to even give a thought. If i had the money, I would - but I don't have the money,

... but I still want to give it a try!!

Any ideas on how to learn TRV (or other comparable forms to TRV like LRV etc) would be highly appreciated!

Krzysiek

[Aaron]

PATHS and TRV

Hi Krzysiek,

PATHS takes time like anything else but is actually quicker to produce
results than most other self help methods. The first thing to do is to
make sure you're taking at least 4 grams of spirulina a day and email the
office with what kind of difference in sleep you can tell. It is important to
make sure sleep is working - that is usually the "litmus test" to see how
fast you respond.

For TRV, you can try these exact two links:

Technical Remote Viewing Generation II Basic Training System

And

Technical Remote Viewing Advanced Training System

The first lets you get TRV Basic Gen II kit for a couple hundred - usually
used but there is no difference from a new kit.

[krzysiek]

Hi Aaron,

I have emailed the Paths office for some help. But I have only been on PATHS for about 3-4 days right now, so I am not sure if I should even realistically be expecting any result just yet (even with my sleeping?)

However, I have emailed and told them that I have set sleep to 12AM and wake to 9AM but these do not seem to be having any effect at all, as I am still going to bed around 1AM or 2AM every morning (I have bad sleeping patterns that I want to correct, I am hoping the sleep booster will correct them for me)

I have also not noticed a difference from PATHS yet, but I have been taking about 6g (two teaspoons) of Spirulina powder mixed together with Ribena cordial that I make. I hope this does not effect it.

Thanks,
Krzysiek

[Ingram]

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Ingram the TRV lurker pops in


Hi Fella's!

[Kevin]

I learned TRV from the tapes... as Aaron pointed out, they can be had for much less than $1200

Let us know if you decide to learn TRV....you would think there would be 10's of thousands of people learning it, but we are really quite a small community.

[krzysiek]

Hi,

I went and got a copy of the Ed Dames remote viewing course, I am only up to about 60 minutes on the first DVD disc, but I am definitely going to need more practise.

My first two attempts and a quick symbollic 15 second sketch did show some accuracy, as both times I did get some sort of symobillic connection in what I put down on paper to what later was revealed to be the target. Although, I did not get a lot of the other stuff.. hopefully this is normal. Very interesting, I just hope I will be able to find material to practise on.

I still don't understand the concept of issuing the two sets of 4 random numbers to a target? What If I wanted to eventually remote view SOMEONE or what they were thinking, or doing etc, how would you go about issuing a 4 digit random number to them? Would it matter?

Thanks

[Ingram]

To be clear, what Ed Dames teaches is NOT TRV.

However, to answer your question in trv terms, the cue is developed and numbers are assigned to it, ergo your target is a limited as your creativity.

[Gary]

Well, Ed Dames used to teach TRV. I actually initially learned from his tapes many many years ago, and then moved to Gen II/TRVU..

I wonder what he teaches now...

[Aaron]

leaving out steps

I have a copy of one of Ed Dames latest courses.

He goes from the ideograms almost straight to s2 without doing
any decoding of the ideograms whatsoever.

That is like teaching someone how to paint without paint.

It seems highly bastardized for some reason but I don't know why such
a blatant disregard for what is considered to be THE most important step
in remote viewing.

[Kevin]

Hi,

I went and got a copy of the Ed Dames remote viewing course, I am only up to about 60 minutes on the first DVD disc, but I am definitely going to need more practise.

My first two attempts and a quick symbollic 15 second sketch did show some accuracy, as both times I did get some sort of symobillic connection in what I put down on paper to what later was revealed to be the target. Although, I did not get a lot of the other stuff.. hopefully this is normal. Very interesting, I just hope I will be able to find material to practise on.

I still don't understand the concept of issuing the two sets of 4 random numbers to a target? What If I wanted to eventually remote view SOMEONE or what they were thinking, or doing etc, how would you go about issuing a 4 digit random number to them? Would it matter?

Thanks

The answer to your question should be in the course...if it is not, then it is a highly incomplete course.

A few comments (but by no means a complete answer) on your questions.

There are hundreds of millions of targets at your fingertips....many of my initial practice targets were simply pictures cut our of national geographic magazines.

It is ez to cue a target on what someone is thinking or doing....

xxxx/xxxx
John Doe/current conscious thoughts

It does not matter what the two 4 digit numbers are

[krzysiek]

Hi,

Thanks for that reply.

I really at this stage cannot afford another DVD set, and I didn't like the idea of buying the PSITECH VHS set as I think VHS does not last as long etc - not to mention, I don't have a VHS player at home anymore, only a DVD player.

I will try and continue on a bit more with Ed Dames course, even though it seems that the odds are against him and the course he provides, as it is all I have.

[Gary]

I have a copy of one of Ed Dames latest courses.

He goes from the ideograms almost straight to s2 without doing
any decoding of the ideograms whatsoever.

Thats interesting, I have never tried that and probably won't but I guess whatever works for you.

Decoding the ideogram is what gives you ideogram contact without sitting and thinking about it. I would imagine going right into s2 and cutting that valuable time spent in contact with the ideogram might lessen target contact significantly.

[Ingram]

It seems highly bastardized for some reason but I don't know why such
a blatant disregard for what is considered to be THE most important step
in remote viewing.

I suspect that the divergence from PSI-Tech and it's proprietary process is the genesis of that change Aaron.

I will try and continue on a bit more with Ed Dames course, even though it seems that the odds are against him and the course he provides, as it is all I have.

Personally I am an advocate of personal motivation based on belief and I suspect that if you presume the premise (RV) is faulty then it is going to undermine your dedication to the application of the technology. Ed is one of the founders of the civilian application of RV and may indeed have a valid technique. Frankly however, I'm rather a TRV purist and so am unable to speak to the accuracy (or lack thereof) of other RV processes as I don't practice them.

[krzysiek]

Well, given you guys are replying quite frequently..

And, yes, I Am willing to accept I may be considered silly...

But do those claims of 'winning the lotto' and various other claims that sound just as silly have any truth to them?

[Kevin]

I have read the reports of how to get numbers thru RV. I do not know that it is really possible.

Traditional training in TRV is that numbers are not consistently available as data.

However, I do personally know many people that make money using TRV to find the winner of sporting events....and they bet $ on that and win consistently.

I, myself, have TRV'ed a number of sporting events and accurately determined the winner in advance.

krzysiek, I know that a good TRVer can make as much $ as they want on sporting events....sorta doubt success in the lottery though.