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Not a Prob ... it is a pleasure .... as you bring inspiration to this discussion .... the same goes for all the active members of this discussion .... and the passive ones as well
for instance there are 15 passive members right now
Ahh, yes, these song lyrics did pop into my head, the white princess, two paths (kundalini spiral).
Thanks for the indulgence MrM
Not a Prob ... it is a pleasure .... as you bring inspiration to this discussion .... the same goes for all the active members of this discussion .... and the passive ones as well
for instance there are 15 passive members right now
Hi, sorry this is a bit off topic, but I wanted to share the following lines from a Sanskrit text Megha Duta by Kalidasa: (I am going out on a limb here! ) so please be forgiving
"And if Siva were to cast off
his dark snake bracelets
and hold Gauri's hand
While she wanders on foot about that mountain of fun you should arrange your body
into a series of waves
and steady the water within
becoming a stairway soft on the feet
for her climb."
There is much debate as to how these texts should be translated, so my thoughts were related to dealing with energy within the body. I know that in Urdu 'gauri' means 'white princess'- I have a Norweigian friend who has this name and she told me the same meaning- ahh the interconnectedness of language- the Druids and the Brahmans- more serpent cult links, the serpentine being symbolic of the life force within (kundalini)
you should arrange your body
into a series of waves
and steady the water within
I think these lines could be/may be a reference to the Kundalini and possibly how to activate it?
There's a lady who's sure all that glitters is gold And she's buying a stairway to heaven
When she gets there she knows, if the stores are all closed
With a word she can get what she came for
Ooh, ooh, and she's buying a stairway to heaven
There's a sign on the wall but she wants to be sure 'Cause you know sometimes words have two meanings
In a tree by the brook, there's a songbird who sings
Sometimes all of our thoughts are misgiven
Ooh, it makes me wonder
Ooh, it makes me wonder
There's a feeling I get when I look to the west
And my spirit is crying for leaving
In my thoughts I have seen rings of smoke through the trees
And the voices of those who stand looking
Ooh, it makes me wonder
Ooh, it really makes me wonder
And it's whispered that soon if we all call the tune
Then the piper will lead us to reason
And a new day will dawn for those who stand long
And the forests will echo with laughter
If there's a bustle in your hedgerow, don't be alarmed now
It's just a spring clean for the May queen Yes, there are two paths you can go by, but in the long run
There's still time to change the road you're on
And it makes me wonder
Your head is humming and it won't go, in case you don't know The piper's calling you to join him
Dear lady, can you hear the wind blow and did you know
Your stairway lies on the whispering wind?
And as we wind on down the road
Our shadows taller than our soul
There walks a lady we all know
Who shines white light and wants to show
How everything still turns to gold
And if you listen very hard
The tune will come to you at last
When all are one and one is all, yeah
To be a rock and not to roll
Jimmy Page and Robert Plant have gone on record by talking about Led Zeppelins’ songs being channeled through occultic “automatic handwriting”. Plant said that the lyrics for “Stairway to Heaven” were written while he was oblivious to what was happening through him:
“…Robert described the “automatic” nature of the lyric: ‘I was just sitting there with Pagey in front of a fire at Headley Grange. Pagey had written the chords and played them for me. I was holding a paper and pencil, and for some reason, I was in a very bad mood. Then all of a sudden my hand was writing out words. 'There's a lady who's sure, all that glitters is gold, and she's buying a stairway to heaven.’ I just sat there and looked at the words and then I almost leaped out of my seat’”* (34).
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“He [Robert Plant] often remarked that he could feel his pen being pushed by some higher authority”* (35).
Hi, sorry this is a bit off topic, but I wanted to share the following lines from a Sanskrit text Megha Duta by Kalidasa: (I am going out on a limb here! ) so please be forgiving
"And if Siva were to cast off
his dark snake bracelets
and hold Gauri's hand
While she wanders on foot about that mountain of fun you should arrange your body
into a series of waves
and steady the water within
becoming a stairway soft on the feet
for her climb."
There is much debate as to how these texts should be translated, so my thoughts were related to dealing with energy within the body. I know that in Urdu 'gauri' means 'white princess'- I have a Norweigian friend who has this name and she told me the same meaning- ahh the interconnectedness of language- the Druids and the Brahmans- more serpent cult links, the serpentine being symbolic of the life force within (kundalini)
you should arrange your body
into a series of waves
and steady the water within
I think these lines could be/may be a reference to the Kundalini and possibly how to activate it?
good reading you Michael C , found the following but have not explore it as i was about to post another info that caught my attention ..... quite philosophical
In his treatment of the human soul, al-Farabi draws on a basic Aristotelian outline, which is informed by the commentaries of later Greek thinkers. He says it is composed of four faculties:
From unity we went to duality to quaternity. The Four Elements are a quaternity as it is said that they are interrelated, they cannot exist without one another. They come forth out of unity and they dissolve into unity. The Four Elements are the foundation out of which the entire universe is built.
The resulting diamond shape brings forth some interesting things:
The diamond shape is related to the number four and quaternity, but it brings forth the triangle within, and thus trinity, and the cross which produces a fifth point. So we have the numbers 3, 4 and 5, and this is the mathematical expression of the right triangle having 30°, 60° and 90° angles, of which the legs are 3 and 4, and the hypotenuse 5. It is the only triangle of which the hypotenuse will be a whole number when the legs are whole numbers too.
In his treatment of the human soul, al-Farabi draws on a basic Aristotelian outline, which is informed by the commentaries of later Greek thinkers. He says it is composed of four faculties:The appetitive (the desire for, or aversion to an object of sense), the sensitive (the perception by the senses of corporeal substances), the imaginative (the faculty which retains images of sensible objects after they have been perceived, and then separates and combines them for a number of ends), and the rational, which is the faculty of intellection.[60] It is the last of these which is unique to human beings and distinguishes them from plants and animals. It is also the only part of the soul to survive the death of the body. Noticeably absent from these scheme are internal senses, such as common sense, which would be discussed by later philosophers such as Avicenna and Averroes.[61][62]
Special attention must be given to al-Farabi's treatment of the soul's imaginative faculty, which is essential to his interpretation of prophethood and prophetic knowledge. In addition to its ability to retain and manipulate sensible images of objects, he gives the imagination the function of imitation. By this he means the capacity to represent an object with an image other than its own. In other words, to imitate "x" is to imagine "x" by associating it with sensible qualities that do not describe its own appearance. This extends the representative ability of the imagination beyond sensible forms and to include temperaments, emotions, desires and even immaterial intelligibles or abstract universals, as happens when, for example, one associates "evil" with "darkness".[63][64] The prophet, in addition to his own intellectual capacity, has a very strong imaginative faculty, which allows him to receive an overflow of intelligibles from the agent intellect (the tenth intellect in the emanational cosmology) ( Pineal Gland ). These intelligibles are then associated with symbols and images, which allow him to communicate abstract truths in a way that can be understood by ordinary people. Therefore what makes prophetic knowledge unique is not its content, which is also accessible to philosophers through demonstration and intellection, but rather the form that it is given by the prophet's imagination.[65][66]
In his twenties, Maimonides wrote a Treatise on logic (Makalah fi-sina'at al-mantik in Arabic). The work illustrates the essentials of Aristotelian logic to be found in the teachings of the great Arabic philosophers such as Avicenna and, above all, Al-Farabi, "the Second Master" to employ Maimonides' words, the "First Master" being Aristotle.
In Islam, the mithrab is the prayer doorway to Mecca and the inner mysteries of Mohammed's revelation. In many Sufi sects, the mithrab has the geometric pattern of the Tree of Life, without Malkuth, inscribed in its niche. This is usually coupled with the Light Verse from the Qu'ran - Sura 24, verse 35. To the Sufis, this verse exemplifies the very idea of illumination. Idries Shah called the verse "the essence of Sufism," and goes on to suggests that it "conceals the nature of the cognition of the extra dimensions of the human consciousness which comes beyond the intellect."
Ajna / Jannah
Function
Ajna translates as 'command', and is considered as the eye of intuition. When something is seen in the mind's eye, or in a dream, it is being 'seen' by Ajna. It is a bridge that links gurus with disciples, allowing mind communication to occur between two people. The sense organ and action organ associated with Ajna is the mind in both cases.
Hindus believe that spiritual energy from the external environments enter their body through this gateway and hence take utmost precaution in protecting it with spiritually positive protecting forces. The various religious marks one sees on the foreheads of men and women belonging to the Hindu faith (like holy ash,namam, vermilion etc.) are thus the blessed spiritual prasadam of their respective form of the Hindu gods.
Meditation upon Ajna supposedly grants the following siddhis or occult powers: to quickly enter anothers body at will; to become omniscient; he realizes unity with Brahman; and he has the ability to create, preserve and destroy the three worlds.
The crop circle and the drawing of the hexagon isn't shaped exactly the same. The crop circle resembles more of the shape of the tree of life.
If the angles of the crop circle's 'flattest' edge is 51*, 51 min 51 sec it's time for a nice cup of tea! And the triangle pattern might learn us something more about the tree and flower of life.
good reading you Michael C , found the following but have not explore it as i was about to post another info that caught my attention ..... quite philosophical
The crop circle and the drawing of the hexagon isn't shaped exactly the same. The crop circle resembles more of the shape of the tree of life.
If the angles of the crop circle's 'flattest' edge is 51*, 51 min 51 sec it's time for a nice cup of tea! And the triangle pattern might learn us something more about the tree and flower of life.
when referencing a chapter / sura from the bible or the Quran ...... I only reference the title and number of the mentioned chapter .... not the verses it contains ( they have their own function ....analogy oblige ) unless it is mentioned ....
45:XXXIII CIRCUMLOCUTIONS.--"Every time you find in our books a tale, the reality of which seems impossible, a story which repugnant both to reason and common sense, then be sure that tale contains a profound allegory veiling a deeply mysterious truth; and the greater the absurdity of the letter the deeper the wisdom of the spirit." RABBI MOSES MAIMONIDES .
you know what will be hard for some to grasp ( myself included ) is that like any Sufi Mystic knows :
To the eye of the seer every leaf of the tree is a page of the holy book that contains divine revelation, and he is inspired every moment of his life by constantly reading and understanding the holy script of nature.
When man writes, he inscribes characters upon rock, leaf, paper, wood, or steel. When God writes, the characters He writes are living creatures ( see also CODEX OF LOVE ) .
THE SCALE OF AMAZING: A slow but dense solar wind stream hit Earth's magnetic field on Dec. 1st, 2012
WOW! From zero to 100 in 5 minutes! The sky has been clear for several days without a trace of any auroras here in the north, but tonight all this changed in an instant. From a thin pale arc stretching from east to west to one of the most powerful coronas in a long while with an exceptionally distict band of purple-pink from excited nitrogen molecules at the lower edge.
Hui-neng said: “The Truth is understood by the mind (hsin), and not by sitting (ts’o) in meditation" (Suzuki, The Zen Doctrine of No-Mind, 36).
If one expects to see what the Buddha saw it will be with a well trained mind; not the ability to sit for long periods of time stewing in Mara the Evil One’s psychophysical (pańca-skandha) machine. In this regard, we have the capacity to see beyond our embodied condition—we shouldn't rest content with it.
One hour's meditation on the work of the Creator is better than seventy years of prayer.
in nature you'll always have pole positive / negative , Red / Blue , Centrifugal / Centripedal , Emit / Receive , Male / Female , Hummingbird/Flower .... and in the middle the Child who has not gone through his / her " Puberty" .... androgynous .... Purple
known to Ancients as the Middle Path
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just so you know ... i don't sit like the drawing above and sing Aum all day .... .............. I think and listen to that " child's voice" and search .... my kind of meditation + music and a nap
its closer to the music i listen to .... that does not mean other ways don't work .... let's not forget
A: It signifies the extremes.
Q: I inquired about the middle way; why do you say it signifies the extremes?
A: Extremes are only valid in contradistinction to the middle way. If at first you do not postulate extremes ( principle of Polarity ), from what can you derive the concept of a middle way? This middle you are talking about was first used in relation to extremes. Hence we should realize that the middle and extremes owe their existence to their mutual dependence and that all of them are transient.
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The Diamond Sutra
The Diamond Sutra says: "If their minds grasp the Dharma, they will still cling to the notion of an ego (a being and a life); if their minds grasp the Non-Dharma, they will still cling to the notion of an ego. Therefore we should not grasp at and hold onto the notions either of Dharma or Non-Dharma." This is holding the true Dharma. If you understand this doctrine, that is true deliverance. That, indeed, is reaching the gate of nonduality.
Coordinates :
Lat (WGS84) N51:01:21 (51.022383)
Long (WGS84) W1:15:48 (-1.263467)
Hira has various meanings, depending on its country of origin. Hira in Sanskrit means "diamond" and is used for either a boy or a girl. The Muslim name Hira is used only for girls and means "darkness." The girl's name Hira in Hausa means "chatty," while in Arabic it means "a young palm shoot."
it is also related to Cats = kitten [hurairah] = = cat [hirrah] = Bastet
Hira (Arabic: حراء Ḥirāʾ) or the Cave of Hira (غار حراء Ġār Ḥirāʾ) is a cave about 2 mi (3.2 km) from Mecca, on the mountain named Jabal Al-Nūr in the Hejaz region of present day Saudi Arabia.
It is notable for being the location where Muslims believe Muhammad received his first revelations from God (Allah) through the angel Jibreel, also known as the angel Gabriel to Christians.[1]
btw: I think i can give you my take on 12 / 21 /12 ..... I just think it is a wave worth riding ... in Soul Surfer Term .... some will understand ..... it is one of those Special Wave ... for now i keep it as my prime theory .... will evolve as time gets closer
Personally, I dont believe in any doomsday or apocalyptic events, but I do believe something will happen that lies between apocalypse and sentimental newage nothingness, something in the middle. It frustrates me when people say nothing will happen at all, and that nothing will ever happen at all, and etc, yet how long have all of us been here on this planet for? probably no more than a few decades if any. Some folks say, "it is arrogant and foolish to believe something will happen." I am saying then it is arrogant and foolish to believe something wont happen. So many cultures, ancient cultures that is, have put significance on this date, deep down many of us feel something about that date, something unusual not felt before. How many thousands of years, even hundreds of years have we lived on this planet to say by experience nothing will happen? Few of us are even that old at all really, from what I gather our age ranges from 20-60, so thats not a whole lot of experience on earth to know for a fact Dec 21st will just be another day.
btw: I think i can give you my take on 12 / 21 /12 ..... I just think it is a wave worth riding ... in Soul Surfer Term .... some will understand ..... it is one of those Special Wave ... for now i keep it as my prime theory .... will evolve as time gets closer
(Phys.org)—A team made up of members from several European countries has published a paper in Physical Review Letters describing a technique they've developed for using fractal geometry to build structures that maintain their strength despite weighing significantly less.
The researchers began their study by noting that many structures in the world already demonstrate some degree of fractal geometry. The Eifel Tower for example, they note was essentially built using a single type of metal rod that is replicated in different sizes throughout the tower to minimize weight. What's not been the case however, they add is a predefined way to implement fractal geometry into structures in general. To rectify that, they have come up with a process that allows for creating metal beams that take advantage of fractal properties.
The first step is to create a hollow metal beam of the size desired for a given project. Next, reengineer the beam by changing its diameter and thickness such that the beam weighs as little as possible but is still able to withstand the weight or pressure it will be subjected to as a final structure. Once that is achieved, label it generation-0 ( MINERAL ). The next step is to create a larger beam made out of generation-0 beams arranged using triangular subdivisions. This next beam is labeled a generation-1 beam ( VEGETABLE ). Generation-2 beams would be constructed by replacing all of the generation-1 beams with full scale versions of itself, only in a larger construct ( ANIMAL .... ALL IS ANALOGY ). Theoretically, the process can be repeated as many times as is desired or is possible, depending on scale.
The resulting structures weigh less than those made with solid steal because they contain less of it – the more generations used, the lighter the structure becomes proportionally to one made of solid steel. As an example the researchers suggest that a solar sail made with a solid metal 100 meter boom (not that anyone is proposing that) could be made to be 10,000 times lighter if a generation-3 beam were used instead.
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