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  • What ever happened to Eneregy Inventor Rory Johnson?

    This is the guy who invented a special motor for Greyhound Bus Lines that the government would not let them buy. Does anyone have any updates on this?
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  • #2
    Plans

    Originally posted by EXCELERATOR View Post
    This is the guy who invented a special motor for Greyhound Bus Lines that the government would not let them buy. Does anyone have any updates on this?
    Excelerator,

    At one point I received what looked like a complete set of blue prints for the Rory Johnson, self running electric motor. It was really complicated and operated on a theoretical basis I did not understand. I probably still have the plans somewhere in my mess, but I have never heard of anyone else even trying to replicate his work.

    Sorry,
    Peter
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    • #3
      Originally posted by EdwardFranklin
      Peter this is no way to answer . . if you have conflict with some one you can politely tell them
      Can you explain it please more, where you see something like a Conflict in P.L's Answer or that this Reply is not polite?

      Its a clear Statement, that the Schematics look complicated, and at a theoretical Basis.
      What is your Problem here at your Post #1.
      Theorizer are like High Voltage. A lot hot Air with no Power behind but they are the dead of applied Work and Ideas.

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      • #4
        Sorry for the Confusion

        Originally posted by EdwardFranklin
        Peter this is no way to answer . . if you have conflict with some one you can politely tell them
        Dear Edward,

        I apologize if my previous post was too short for you to understand, so here is my second attempt.

        1) Dear Excelerator, yes I have heard of the Self-running engine invented by Rory Johnson.
        2) Six or seven years ago, one of my colleagues sent me what appeared to be a complete set of blueprints for the construction of the Rory Johnson electric motor. It included a brief explanation of its operating theory.
        3) I believe that I even took the plans and showed them to John Bedini at one point. This must have been sometime around 2006.
        4) The theoretical explanation of how the machine worked was unique, and I had never heard of any other system running on it's principles.
        5) After studying the plans for a while, I didn't really understand why the machine could both self-energize and convert the electric currents into mechanical energy. Apparently, I did not understand the theory.
        6) I am not saying that it either worked or didn't work. I am saying the theory was unique and unfamiliar to me and the plans showed a very complicated design, and that I did not feel competent to evaluated it.
        7) Since then, my office has been moved 3 times, and I currently don't know where the plans are, as I don't have all of my files out and available.
        8) Beyond this, I have never heard of anyone ever trying to replicate Rory's work.

        I hope that makes things clearer.

        Peter
        Last edited by Peter Lindemann; 04-10-2012, 03:08 PM.
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        • #5
          spammer

          Originally posted by EdwardFranklin
          Peter this is no way to answer . . if you have conflict with some one you can politely tell them
          I think he is a spammer simply here to post 5 links to the same website in his signature line. I'll delete it after you all see this.
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          • #6
            Originally posted by EXCELERATOR View Post
            This is the guy who invented a special motor for Greyhound Bus Lines that the government would not let them buy. Does anyone have any updates on this?
            According to Rex Research, he passed away.

            Rory Johnson: Magnatron engine

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            • #7
              The Rex Research article sure makes it sound like the motor was harvesting its own back EMF spikes produced via wide mica spacings in its commutator, and using it to increase its own power. The larger than usual "off" time allows the BEMF spike to be generated and harvested. Probably where most other motors need to go.
              Bob

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              • #8
                Originally posted by Bob Smith View Post
                The Rex Research article sure makes it sound like the motor was harvesting its own back EMF spikes produced via wide mica spacings in its commutator, and using it to increase its own power. The larger than usual "off" time allows the BEMF spike to be generated and harvested. Probably where most other motors need to go.
                Bob
                There must be more to it than this...otherwise Peter would not comment on his lack of knowledge on how it worked.

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                • #9
                  Thanks for update but...

                  Originally posted by Armagdn03 View Post
                  According to Rex Research, he passed away.

                  Rory Johnson: Magnatron engine

                  Thanks for the update but do you know how and when he died and give us a link to follow-up on? Thanks
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                  • #10
                    Not sure if this'll provide any further info. I'll read thru it this weekend if I can. Doesn't seem to be too much out there
                    Howard Rory Johnson: Magnatron – Light-Activated Cold Fusion Magnetic Motor for Energy Invention Suppression Cases
                    Bob

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                    • #11
                      Rory Johnson

                      “Suppression From Higher Up” [Excerpt]

                      by

                      Eric Masen

                      In the late 1970s, Rory Johnson, a brilliant inventor in Elgin, Illinois, created a cold-fusion, laser-activated, magnetic motor that produced 525 horsepower, weighed 475 pounds and would propel a large truck of bus 100,000 miles on about 2 pounds of deuterium and gallium. This was years before either Pons & Fleischman or Dr. James Patterson entered the scene with their cold-fusion technology. Johnson entered negotiations with the Greyhound Bus Company to install this revolutionary motor in several buses in order to demonstrate fuel savings, maintenance reduction and, hence, the possibility of greater profits for Greyhound.

                      Little did he know, however, that OPEC keeps close track of any potential competition to its oil business and that he was number one on its hit list. His first mistake was publicizing, in many magazines, his plans to manufacture and distribute his revolutionary motor. (The writer has spoken with a few people who even signed up for distributorships.)

                      After a year of hearing nothing but silence from Johnson, Greyhound agents tried to contact him-only to be notified that he had passed away unexpectedly. This is a particularly troubling part of the story, since he had been in his early fifties and in robust health. Later, Greyhound learned that shortly before he died, Johnson had inexplicably moved our of his laboratory in the middle of the night and taken all of his motors and technology to California.

                      Another bizarre fact then surfaced: The U.S. Department of Energy had placed a restraining order on Johnson's company, Magnatron, Inc., prohibiting it from producing the Magnatron engine.

                      Full Doc below:

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                      • #12
                        Bucket of Cold Water

                        Hello Folks,

                        The plans I saw for the Rory Johnson motor, with Rory Johnson's signature on the papers, were for a self-energizing, electro-mechanical machine. It was started with a starter motor to bring it up to the speed at which self-energization over-came the losses. It would then continue to accelerate up to it's operating speed, at which time a mechanical load could be taken from it indefinitely.

                        So, I am a bit dismayed at the explanation in the previous post. To put this into perspective, I would remind you that this was the 1970's. The term "cold-fusion" didn't exist. Lasers were first demonstrated in 1960 with both the "ruby rod" type and the "helium-neon" type in use in the 1970's. There were no such things in this machine. Neither was Gallium metal nor Deuterium gas specified in the plans.

                        Even if they were, I cannot imagine of what use these materials might be in the operation of an electric motor. These early Lasers required very specialized power supplies that were not present. Gallium metal MELTS at 85 degrees F for G**s sake! Deuterium gas was not commercially available and would have been very expensive. The interaction of these components would sound more probable in a Plasma Engine, like the PAPP system. I can only assume that the person who wrote that account had no direct knowledge of the Rory Johnson Motor, and was exercising an extreme form of literary "free association".

                        I also saw no provision for the collection and recycling of inductive discharges. This process requires high speed, high power solid-state diodes which did not exist in the 1970s.

                        To the best of my recollection, the machine had permanent magnets, magnetic core material, copper wire windings, and a frame assembly. The magnetic fields moved through a complex 3-dimensional pattern, both radially and laterally to make their circuit. The permanent magnets (also not strong in those days) were just to get the process started. It was the 3-dimensional magnetic circuits that I could not fully image in my mind. The machine had a level of complexity that I knew would cost a fortune to try to replicate.

                        Something this complicated never appears all by itself. There must have been a long, R&D development period, including many lesser prototypes, with this design as the final result. Without knowing any of the history, I just had no basis to begin an analysis. At that point, I just stopped thinking about it.

                        I'm still looking for the plans. I found the mailing tube that they were sent to me in, but they were not in there. I'll post them if I can find them.

                        Peter
                        Last edited by Peter Lindemann; 04-14-2012, 07:12 PM.
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                        • #13
                          Hello Mr. Lindemann

                          Originally posted by Peter Lindemann View Post
                          Hello Folks,

                          The plans I saw for the Rory Johnson motor, with Rory Johnson's signature on the papers, were for a self-energizing, electro-mechanical machine. It was started with a starter motor to bring it up to the speed at which self-energization over-came the losses. It would then continue to accelerate up to it's operating speed, at which time a mechanical load could be taken from it indefinitely.

                          So, I am a bit dismayed at the explanation in the previous post. To put this into perspective, I would remind you that this was the 1970's. The term "cold-fusion" didn't exist. Lasers were first demonstrated in 1960 with both the "ruby rod" type and the "helium-neon" type in use in the 1970's. There were no such things in this machine. Neither was Gallium metal nor Deuterium gas specified in the plans.

                          Even if they were, I cannot imagine of what use these materials might be in the operation of an electric motor. These early Lasers required very specialized power supplies that were not present. Gallium metal MELTS at 85 degrees F for G**s sake! Deuterium gas was not commercially available and would have been very expensive. The interaction of these components would sound more probable in a Plasma Engine, like the PAPP system. I can only assume that the person who wrote that account had no direct knowledge of the Rory Johnson Motor, and was exercising an extreme form of literary "free association".

                          I also saw no provision for the collection and recycling of inductive discharges. This process requires high speed, high power solid-state diodes which did not exist in the 1970s.

                          To the best of my recollection, the machine had permanent magnets, magnetic core material, copper wire windings, and a frame assembly. The magnetic fields moved through a complex 3-dimensional pattern, both radially and laterally to make their circuit. The permanent magnets (also not strong in those days) were just to get the process started. It was the 3-dimensional magnetic circuits that I could not fully image in my mind. The machine had a level of complexity that I knew would cost a fortune to try to replicate.

                          Something this complicated never appears all by itself. There must have been a long, R&D development period, including many lesser prototypes, with this design as the final result. Without knowing any of the history, I just had no basis to begin an analysis. At that point, I just stopped thinking about it.

                          I'm still looking for the plans. I found the mailing tube that they were sent to me in, but they were not in there. I'll post them if I can find them.

                          Peter
                          Hello Mr. Lindemann,

                          A pleasure to have you around on this Post!
                          The Info I posted prior I gathered from this site:
                          Rory Johnson: Magnatron engine

                          Johnson Patent:
                          Howard Johnson: Permanent Magnet Motor

                          And the portion I posted was just a briefing of the whole Document.
                          I have not deeply researched this type of Motor any further than this article goes.

                          As you wrote above, the Motor will require a Starter Motor just like Edwin Gray Motor, in order to develop the operating speed at which the Capacitors will be charged enough to keep 'firing' by themselves?

                          As you could read in that article, the text comes from different sources-writers, including a guy who was a Technician at Greyhound working on winding electrical motors-alternators, and He met Mr. Rory Johnson...
                          However, Internet is full of wrong information as it also provides very accurate ones...

                          Many thanks for your clear explanation.

                          I will keep researching on this motor...and it will be great if you could find those plans!

                          After Post Edit:

                          Now after looking closely to both links above, am more confused...lol
                          ...I see a Howard R. Johnson Motor and also The Rory Johnson Motor...are they the same person-motor?
                          Could it be Howard R, middle name "Rory"...?


                          Thanks

                          Ufopolitics
                          Last edited by Ufopolitics; 04-16-2012, 08:13 PM. Reason: Doubts
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                          • #14
                            Does anyone have copy of patent of death certificate?

                            Does anyone have a copy of Rory's patent or death certificate? How about a news link as to when and how he died?

                            Thus far I have found 19 free energy inventors who have died sudden and bizarre deaths and I am now curious to know how Rory passed. See this link

                            Plasma Battery Inventors Disappearing Regularly *|* Peak Oil News and Message Boards

                            Also, I just received an email from one of my exchange student friends in Moscow, and he says the body of missing energy inventor Dimitri Petronov was recently found in the Volga River minus his hands and teeth. He said the guy was identified by scars and a tattoo. I will post more details after he sends me the news article he saw in a Russian newspaper.

                            Damn - being an energy inventor seems to be a dangerous occupation!
                            Last edited by EXCELERATOR; 04-20-2012, 04:07 PM.
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                            • #15
                              Found a link to all relevant data via the "Way Back Machine"...

                              3 links still work - the second one on the following page is to a 8mb PDF with schematics, notes etc.

                              Hope it might be interesting to some:

                              http://web.archive.org/web/200709302....dnai/rory.htm

                              D

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