Amazing Magnet MotorGen

[SkyWatcher]

Hi folks, Hi vidbid, your diagram looks right, though not sure about led orientation.
I have a bunch of those ceramic ring magnets, look like same size I got from surplus store awhile back.
I wonder if the ring magnets are needed for the effect, I'll assume so for now.
I am going to have a look at this, though I fried all my larger reed switches awhile back and only have the radio s. small reeds.
Isn't this the kind of stuff konehead does, with shorting the coils at peak or some point.
One of Robert Adams motor/generators I think was able to self run once it was sped up to speed, so if this is genuine, then it correlates with what some others have claimed.
peace love light

[ewizard]

Desertphile is some sort of naysaying freak. Nutcase.

While I thought at first this was fake I'd give it a second thought considering the effort put into the documentation here. BTW those ring magnets look exactly like ones I've gotten out of several Magnetrons form Microwave ovens.

[Bodkins]

genmotor

after watching the video and the guy saying dont Rep. it I have too...
I have the madnets on a hard drive spindal.....

Had one coil and reed switch flashing the led....I didnt record that bit but here the build so for!

New toy - YouTube

[Lidmotor]

How he did it----The second video

@All
Here is his second video showing how he did the "illusion". He shows the circuit diagram in detail. There are two AAA batteries used. One in each coil.

Amazing Magnet Motor/Gen part 2. - YouTube

Actually this is a nice desktop toy. It is just a simple battery powered reed switch pulse motor but it is a very clever design. If I were to build one I would probably go smaller and maybe run it on a solar cell and a supercap.

Lidmotor

[minoly]

yeah, I guess that Min2oly youtube user was onto something a couple of days ago,
in the comment section:

"Batteries are in the coil, don't let the bolts fool you :-)"

this comment garnered 19 thumbs up votes until user Larskro sank the post.


anyway, I think this second vid is similar to what Romero was doing. He is claiming it is a fake, then he clearly shows a battery which is too large to fit in the coil to cause more speculation....

Patrick

[Joit]

I would say. Ok busted.

Even i agree with you minoly, that does not really match to show a Batterie what has the same size as the Coil, even when its possible, cut the Bolt, glue the Coil to the Plate, and glue another nut at the bottom. Its doable.
Even when he has some other neat Video, like the JT with the thick wire in it, what increase the inductance, also a rebuild from R. Ainslies circuit, where he had only 0.06 watt more Output as Input, not sure if he did add the heat at his calculation.
Can be, that hes now another Ghostbuster. He claims, there is no free Energy, only from Sun and Water. Uhm, ok.
Sounds like the challenge to the classical View thenis, that its only free Energy, when you tap it from a bigger System, creating more Energy from a System with lower Energy Circulation is not possible.

Ok then. I made a little rebuild from this too. about ~#28 Wire and powered it with a Power Supply.
I did need at last about 5.4V,0.60-1Ah DC to keep the Rotor spinning with a reedswitch.
It may works better with clean bearings and a smaller core, but that would be for me, what one Coil need to produce, to keep the Motor turning. At the same time you get Drag from the Bolts, what you may can reduce with smaller cores. When turning it by hand, it did produce something about 0.250V AC, but thats still a big Gap.
Probatly a Magnet at the other End from the Coil and we get a magnacoaster similar Toy. But then it will be a Project for more then one Day to build.
And just wonder, if this Italian Video been the same Guy or had the same 'trick'.

[vidbid]

Mystery Solved



Thanks for that link: Amazing Magnet Motor/Gen part 2. - YouTube

Well, I guess we can finally close this x-file.



Regards,

Vidbid

[Bodkins]

whatever.......
Im still playing with it One coil - YouTube

[Bob Smith]

Nonostante caso chiuso,
C'e un uomo non deluso
Bodkins forse non confuso
Ci fara' vedere l'uso!

Bravo Bodkins!

[SkyWatcher]

Hi folks, to say it has a battery in each coil is just a guess.
What is the purpose of all the jokes and april fools type setups?
To me people like lasersaber, it appears, are trying to paint a picture of doubt in peoples minds about this subject, not very constructive, though if lasersaber or anyone else hoaxing devices thinks it is constructive, please explain.
Otherwise, I still see this device as a possibility.
peace love light
tyson

[minoly]

I've made my own claims about my larger and more complex builds.

I really want to find out some day that some one has done it w/ a nice sweet little desktop build, and when they post their vid they actually share the schematic and all - ahead of time - as well as tell everyone to make multiple postings copies etc...
that'll be the day...
something with absolute proof.
my little reed switch window motor can run on a tiny button cell for months.
window motor generator with reed - YouTube

[Lidmotor]

Mopozco replication----with circuit correction

yeah, I guess that Min2oly youtube user was onto something a couple of days ago,
in the comment section:

"Batteries are in the coil, don't let the bolts fool you :-)"

this comment garnered 19 thumbs up votes until user Larskro sank the post.


anyway, I think this second vid is similar to what Romero was doing. He is claiming it is a fake, then he clearly shows a battery which is too large to fit in the coil to cause more speculation....

Patrick

Mopozco did a replication of this motor but he had to change the circuit to get it to run.

reed switch "motors" - YouTube

Patrick--
Perhaps my favorite "simple reed switch motor" was your little bug motor on that air table. That video that you and your son did with all of those bugs running around to the tune of "Flight of the bumble bee" was great. I was sorry that you pulled it down. I learned how to bias a reed switch with a small magnet from that video. That seems like such a long long time ago now. A couple of years I guess.

Lidmotor

[boguslaw]

Ok, what about the original Italian device ? I think connections were different and reed switch position and size also. Remember that this reed switch has to be normally close if I good read the documentation. Also there is uMetal belt around magnets , very strange indeed and both magnets seems to be unconnected magnetically except using this belt.

[Bodkins]

Credo di capire effetto
Bod smith
passalacci

[Iotayodi]

My observation of finer details of a reed switch. I have one setup using a small neo bar on a small rotor with 2 reed switches and each switch alternates two 6 volt bulbs. The switches are about 180 degrees apart. Ive noticed at times both bulbs are on at the same time. Im thinking the higher rpms are not letting the reed switches to totally open or there is too much remanence in the contacts. Once the contact has risen to a certain point there must be a magnetic field collapse given rise to bemf through the switch. Diode? How much would this affect the circuit? I would think there would be a difference between a magnetic field of a permanent magnet and a coils magnetic field. The orientation of the field would seem to matter too in fine tuning. Should the field be parallel or perpendicular to the contact? Is one specific magnetic pole,n/s,a better orientation to the switch for the specific circuit involved? Should the magnetic field,n/s,be pointed at the very end of the contact or vice versus? I would think the weakest field possible to close the contact would cut down remanence or cems. It just seems the smaller physics of this stuff seems important. Just questions in my mind.