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  • You have a working overunity prototype - now what?

    We probably all wish we had this problem. You've worked hard and long and maybe even gotten an expensive patent. Now it's time for the big $$$ to start rolling in ..... or not?

    The group below has a lot of high powered degrees:

    President and R&D Director
    Dr. Paulo N. Correa, MSc, PhD

    Vice-President and General Manager
    Ms. Alexandra Correa, HBA

    Research Associates
    Dr. Malgosia Askanas, PhD
    Dr. Harold Aspden, PhD, FIEE, FIMechE, C.Eng, C.Phys
    Dr. Eugene Mallove, ScM, ScD, (deceased)

    Research & Medical Consultants
    Dr. Arthur Axelrad, MD, PhD, FRCS
    Dr. Vitaly Bard, MD, FRCSC, FACS

    And yet from their info on just one of their inventions: "The entire aPAGD technology has been ready for commercialization for well over ten years. Yet, despite the efforts of all at ABRI - and in particular the personal efforts of Dr. R. Silva, Dr. H. Aspden, Dr. E. Mallove, Mr. U. Soudak, Prof. A. Axelrad, Prof. H. Branover and still others, no sponsor has come forth to help this technology come to fruition. Ecologist movements have been silent on the technology. Politicians, governments and their granting agencies have refused to become involved unless total control is given to them."

    And : "From 1996 to 2003, the Correas made further substantial progress in the development of High Power Reactors, Inverter and Converter systems. These innovations have been kept as commercial secrets. Converter-competitive inverter solutions were also developed before Labofex closed down, including a closed-loop, inverter-based, inertially damped motor-generator system."

    More: "Yet, our Research Institute ploughed ahead. Working bench prototypes of the Converter System have been regularly employed in demonstrations given to interested parties who present the appropriate credentials. Full technical details of this project are described in the various patents, as well as in articles, papers and monographs accessible on-line or in various Journal venues (see aetherometry.com). Some of these models are demonstrated in the Akronos DVD "From Pulsed Plasma Power to the Aether Motor". For a technical and legal evaluation of this technology, the reader is referred to Dr. Harold Aspden's Opinion on the Correa Invention. For a scientific evaluation, the reader is referred to to Dr. Aspden's "Power from Space: the Correa Invention" and to Prof. Emeritus Dr. William Tiller's essay "Some Reflections on Gas Discharges and PAGD Pulses"."

    And a bit more in summary of what they have done: "Energy Technology 1 - Pulsed Plasma Power (Tapping 'vacuum'-energy: aPAGD/IVAD)

    Dr. Paulo Correa and Alexandra Correa made their first experimental breakthrough in 1986, when they discovered and isolated a self-triggered pulsed plasma discharge in the abnormal-glow discharge region (autogenous Pulsed Abnormal Glow Discharge, or aPAGD). The basic circuitry consists of a DC input section, a plasma reactor, and an output pulsed DC section. When properly tuned, the electrodynamically-sustained resonant state of plasma pulsation outputs more electric power than is input. Output pulses have reached >30 kW, with mean power inputs of 50 to 100W and mean outputs of 200 to 600W. The energy in excess of breakeven is the result of a resonance of the accelerated electron plasma with the local Massfree Energy Plenum, or so-called "vacuum state". This state of resonance permits the tapping of a New Source of Energy, in fact, a source of Massfree Electric Energy, first discovered by the Correas - who have identified its spectrum.

    The Correas have developed Inverter and Converter applications for this plasma technology. Together with the PAGD plasma reactor, these individual applications have been the subject of 7 separate patents granted in the US, Canada, England and Israel.

    The Converter system encompasses a secondary-battery-based environment for the extraction of plasma energy in excess of the input energy required to drive the converter.

    The Inverter solutions allow the operation of AC devices (motors, relays, transformers, etc) from the pulsed DC output of the aPAGD plasma device, with a minimum of circuitry and losses. Inverter-flywheel systems were also developed.

    High Power Reactors employing both the aPAGD regime and mechanically-interrupted Vacuum Arc Discharges (IVADs) have been the subject of continued improvement."

    Now in consideration of all that I am asking what chance do any of us have in getting a really great device into production and making money from it? I'm going to guess we will have a better chance of winning the Mega-Millions Lottery if we go about it in the traditional way as it appears the group above is attempting. In my opinion it will only get into the hands of the public if it is done by a unique very well thought out strategy and likely yet untried method OR open source. Neither of those will guarantee you a lot of money but at least it might save some lives and the planet in the long run. And I'll bet there's a much better chance of ending up with some extra $$$$ than playing the lottery.

    Open to discussion on strategies. I don't have a bloody thing in the way of overunity devices but I suspect some around here may. I've said many times that making an overunity, free energy or COP >1 device may be easier than getting it out to the public and especially trying to make money with it so any great strategies anyone can come up with here may help someone in the future.

    I think having this more difficult part planned out ahead may even unblock some of the creative genius hiding in our minds because that genius knows it may be opening a Pandora's box of new problems if the mind unleashes it's full potential.
    Last edited by ewizard; 04-12-2012, 02:50 AM.
    There is no important work, there are only a series of moments to demonstrate your mastery and impeccability. Quote from Almine

  • #2
    Post a scematic. With the text:

    "please remember me during the holidays when your making millions off this"

    And open source. The enormous volume of business an OU device would create would be more then any company could handle.

    Big business would fork over something for PR.
    Small business might.
    I'd send you something if I built one for my house.

    So you won't be able to buy that island. But who needs one.

    And you would be the guy who saved the world and not the guy that went missing.

    Jake

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    • #3
      Patents, first mistake.

      Hello Ewizard, great post!

      I have been working on same issues for a while by now...and I have finally come up with "my own plan"

      I have other patents related to Electrodynamic Machines...
      But, I have realized patents means nothing at all, except to set you up in a Target scenario "IF", your invention "brakes" some Physical Old Established Ruling Laws, that keep -up to now- as the predominating ones...Then you are 'automatically' in hot waters.

      I have decided to go public, all the way, there is a path to follow before disclosing your full invention, that is to protect it from Patent Trolls, to steal it and patent it themselves...Go <ip.com> and make there a Technical Disclosure for less than 300 USD, this way it will come out in many "Official Gazettes" or Examiner's Journal's, that are searching for "Prior Art" around the Planet, before granting patents. Then it no longer be "Patentable", and to a certain point, if it does, you have a Timed Stamped Doc and the public broadcasting, as a solid proof to fight it in any court of law.

      Open Source is the only way to go on this type of devices, now getting the right exposure to the world, in the million viewers, that is where the problem starts...but it could be done...lot of work, but worthy.


      Regards

      Ufopolitics
      Principles for the Development of a Complete Mind: Study the science of art. Study the art of science. Develop your senses- especially learn how to see. Realize that everything connects to everything else.― Leonardo da Vinci

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      • #4
        Thanks Ufopolitics and I'm glad you are still on the open source side of things. You've got a lot of great info and an interesting device. I wish I had more time (and money) for building things right now. Thanks for mentioning ip.com as I wasn't aware of how that could be used. That can be a big help in documenting your work. Depending on what complexity is involved in building a device I've often thought one could start small with a plan similar to network marketing although without the huge profit structure they often have. Word of mouth in either a niche market or a local area until it got solidly rooted would likely make it difficult to suppress once many people had a working device.

        I think when something gets built that can make useful power and has good potential in terms of economics in use and helping the planet it will spread fast. I think we are on the edge of that happening soon from many sources.
        There is no important work, there are only a series of moments to demonstrate your mastery and impeccability. Quote from Almine

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        • #5
          Here is my take on this. Assuming you have an over unity device or even one that is just extremely efficient and that it truly does work and you would like to see it produced, first off you should not even think about the possibility of perhaps trying to get it patented.
          To do so would be like going down a dead-end road, you will waste much time and money, and more then likely wind up with nothing to show for the effort.

          First applying for a patent is not cheep and it take a lot of time then the patent office will probably reject your claim because they cannot "understand" how it can work. But if you are able to convince them it really does work and you get the patent you will also probably get a call from the government saying they are taking control of your invention for military or national security reasons.

          So what you should do to out and actually start selling it! Don’t worry that someone else might copy it and start selling it also. If it is as good as you think the market will be more then large enough. What you want to concentrate on is becoming the “Scotch Tape” in that market so that everyone asks for you device.

          If you are looking financing you will definitely need a working prototype be it a model or full sized unit and preferably it should be unit that is ready to become a production model. Without that you will probably have a hard time just getting the time of day.

          If working on a shoestring budget or have or scrounged up limited funding you should start out small make a few units and sell them locally. At this point you want to “stay under the radar” get some unit sold, have some cash coming in, and see if your customers find any problems with your units. If so now is the time to find them before you become product becomes a national household word. You don’t want any surprises that could be used by the power-that-be against you; a good reputation is hard to get but easy to lose.
          Also these initial customers could then be used as references for those that claim you device cannot possibly work.

          Now if you truly have and earth shaking, something that will change the way people view the world, device this definitely will get the attention of the powers-that-be and they probably will not be very happy with you intruding in their territory. Thus it would not be unrealistic to expect break-ins at your manufacturing plant, maybe a fire or records stolen, etc.

          To help avoid this you want coped records, files, draws, etc. at other undisclosed locations with perhaps extra parts inventory and completed units.

          So let the fun began!

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          • #6
            Agree with Mad Scientist, but...

            Hello,

            I agree with you Mad Scientist, a patent is not the way to go...besides ANYTHING that produces more than what it gets in, would ever be allowed to be even accepted in the primary examiner review on application...But the worst part is that even your own Attorney, the one you are hiring...will be the first one to tell you...not to bother to present anything COP > 0.001
            The Joseph (Joe) Newman Case Law with the USPTO, is just an example of what I am writing above.
            In the very odd case your device gets through the "System"...maybe because is so solid it can not be denied...Then You are in real deep waters...like Mad Scientist wrote...Government WILL send you an already made Letter form...to you and your law firm...showing "interest" on it...and "applying" the Inventor Secrecy Act from 1955 Law...and by now they have an "Addendum" expressing "No monetary offers need to be made by the Government in MUST cases..."
            The DoD (Dept of Defense) and the DoE (Dept. of Energy) are the Federal Offices Above the USPTO entire Chief Staff...

            Now, related to 'Not Patenting' and start selling your device...

            Here , I am sorry Mad Scientist , but disagree with you...
            You wrote:
            So what you should do to out and actually start selling it! Don’t worry that someone else might copy it and start selling it also.
            The problem lies, Not on someone start copying it and selling it also...that is not a problem...
            The Real problem arises when a Patent Troll, gets your idea and manage to patent it....then come back to your small or big profit and take it away, restrict you from using your own device...
            Read about the Kapanaze Generator case, and the Investor's Disclosure Form signed by the Inventor...

            The only way to avoid this, (as far as I know) is to go through a Public Open Disclosure Records, publishing your entire device-methods there...Whatever that guarantees a Stamped Date-Time, (That absolutely No One could change, not even yourself) and the details of your invention...Like I wrote before, ip.com is One of them...but there are more, like Public Videos and Articles in Social Media Networks.
            And of course this does not entitles you to any Claims, for someone copying and reproducing your device...is public domain..but, that is what I am pursuing...

            Making money on this, is very odd...I already "gave up" my 'ambitious and greedy' feelings, on anything related to Free Energy...I have many other ideas that could be used in other fields and worth a patent and a licensing...

            I, personally like to go to the "core" of this whole deal...find where the "crippling" was done...time and place...and reveal it...showing by my own financed experiments, they were Lies, seizing of science by the big powers...I love doing it...and really enjoy it. And I will keep going...you have not seen nothing yet...
            I believe from here will develop a whole new vision, that will open new ideas...new devices...and a new era..like Nikola Tesla once dreamed of humanity getting there.

            Right now I am remaking an old Tesla Motor based on its windings-structure...from 1888...That patent is public domain by now...I am only adapting to it , Solid State technology and my Diodes-Coils set up...
            Anyone will be able to replicate-convert His Motors into this type...and see it works also as a Radiant Energy Generator...
            I am not interested in selling those motors...but teach how to make them world wide...

            Regards to all


            Ufopolitics
            Last edited by Ufopolitics; 04-13-2012, 12:33 AM.
            Principles for the Development of a Complete Mind: Study the science of art. Study the art of science. Develop your senses- especially learn how to see. Realize that everything connects to everything else.― Leonardo da Vinci

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            • #7
              Originally posted by Ufopolitics View Post
              The only way to avoid this, (as far as I know) is to go through a Public Open Disclosure Records, publishing your entire device-methods there.
              Yes that would be a good step to take. A similar approach would be to make copies of all your drawings, documentation, pictures with a date stamp in them, etc. put this is a large envelope and mail it to yourself. It will then acquire an official date stamp from the post office. Then if someone claims to invented your idea and you need to defend yourself in court you hand the envelope to the judge and ask him to look at the date then open it and review the continents.


              Right now I am remaking an old Tesla Motor based on its windings-structure...from 1888...That patent is public domain by now...I am only adapting to it , Solid State technology and my Diodes-Coils set up...
              Anyone will be able to replicate-convert His Motors into this type...and see it works also as a Radiant Energy Generator...



              I believe I’ve seen the original or at least a replica of it. The Tesla Museum had a traveling road show of his devices in Chicago last year and they had a working motor.



              Here is spinning an egg with a magnetic field.



              I have experimented and built a number of variations of his turbine. Came up with some improvements to it, but there still a long way to go before it a useful engine. It is a very interesting engine as it has only one moving part. One would think it should be easy to built, and it is if you don’t care about efficiency, but you quickly find that there is precious little date on just how he built his.

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              • #8
                I agree, forget the patents and forget the money.

                Release it to the world. But don't release it with media and fanfare, release it quietly. Simply post the item, AND overly detail how to make it, on these FE sites and you-tube and let it spread. If it is real and readily duplicated it WILL spread.

                If you are concerned that the "credit" may be given to someone else I suggest you are here for the wrong reasons in the first place. Even so, if you want the fame, place a small unnoticeable 'code' throughout the entire video. Then if you get into the greedy popularity game you can reveal the code which would be fair evidence that the video was yours.

                A subtle public disclosure before posting it on FE forums and you-tube is a good idea as well.

                "Free energy" will only succeed if it is a gift, hence the term free energy. If you think of it as a 'product' you are killing it from the start. It is no longer free.

                Just my $0.03
                Trust your own instinct. Your mistakes might as well be your own, instead of someone else's ~BW~ It's kind of fun to do the impossible ~WD~ From now on, I'll connect the dots my own way ~BW~ If I shall be like him, who shall be like me? ~LR~ Had I not created my whole world, I would certainly have died in other people’s ~AN~

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                • #9
                  I found this excellent idea on the OU forum from member aaron5120:
                  "Please consider the following option:
                  Kickstarter
                  It is the world's largest funding platform for creative projects. You may submit your project to the consideration of the whole world, and get funded in a few months for beginning to beta trial production of your invention. If the idea is attractive enough to the internet public, they are well prepared to over-fund your project by several orders of magnitude( like many projects did in the past there).
                  Please have a look of some of the most notoriously successful projects in the site.
                  Discover Projects » Technology / Most Funded &mdash; Kickstarter
                  I will be one of them to fund your project, should you post your invention there."

                  This was in a message thread there where Phillip Hardcastle is asking for ideas on how to put forth his permanent battery or get it into production. He's got a concept that could be used in many ways but will initially be selling a permanent hearing aid battery that never needs replacing. The above is something I had never heard of but it sounds great for a free energy device that has a working unit.
                  There is no important work, there are only a series of moments to demonstrate your mastery and impeccability. Quote from Almine

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