Radiant Collector

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One could say that there are two circuits at play here. The radiant collector and the radiant exciter.


The radiant exciter has the purpose of radiantly exciting the batteries, of which there are two.


The circuit is called a Brovin Kacher Radiant Exciter.

The circuit for the radiant collector is called a Tesla Radiant Collector.


Basic Schematic:




The input to the radiant exciter circuit is about 20mA; however, the radiant collector is not directly connected to the batteries. Output from the radiant collector circuit can be seen to be considerably more than the input to the exciter circuit.

More Detailed




Replication #1

http://youtu.be/2JxunfyhtFI

Replication #2

http://youtu.be/vnHTtpPvsTQ

Replication #3

Diodes for Replication #3

15kv 4 amp 100ns.

http://youtu.be/nhbtOvNLnko

These diodes cost about $30US each.

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Diode Recovery Times

Sorry, I have to correct!
The recovery time of a diode is in fact the switch delay time.

- A 100ns diode will refuse any action at 10 MHz (conforms to 100ns full periode).

- A diode is supposed to act in the half periode of an AC signal only. It will refuse therefore any action at 5 MHz (conforms to 100ns as half periode) as well.

- Any recovery time obove 1/4 frequency periode shall be avoided - in any case!!!! So we have the absolute limit of 2.5 MHz for this 100ns diode. But this is not recommended at all. If we make use of this condition we have built an AC dimmer with phase control.

- For estimation: I would suggest to convert the recovery time to frequency (1/x) and divide it by more than 8 (12 recommended). Then you have a viable operation frequency.
Given: 100ns = 0.1µs => 10 MHz / 8....12 = 1.25 ..... 0.833 MHz.

- For easy converting (1/x) in your mind regard: µs convert to MHz, ms convert to kHz. It is like calculation with volt and kOhm convert ot mA ......

- You can get 20ns diodes being able to handle about 5 MHz but do not head for higher frequencies. You very probably will not get components within your financial limits - HV, high amp, supoer ultra fast......

- For your better imagination see this diagram[/URL] and let the recovery time be less than Pi/4 (corresponds to factor 8 above).

- Please do not hesitate to look in the data sheets. If you do not find a recovery time there then regard the diode to be built for mains frequency only!!!

- Example: UF 5408 -> recovery time typical 75 ns @ 1A. If you apply max. current it will get slower. Same UF4007. So please calculate these diodes to have 100ns recovey time.

Please regard the hints above. I want your setups to succeed. Any weak part of a chain detemines the max. load!
rgds John

I stand corrected...

Thanks John, that clears the fuzzyness in my mind and a few questions I had in this area -

the aim of showing stealing electricity was just to make forum members and guests to understand that we need high frequency in tandem with high voltage to harvest more power using silicon fast acting diodes. and do the practical also for those who havent made slayer xciter circuit or mini or standard tesla coil.

the experiment was basic step to understand frequency and voltage effects on charging cap.

yes we r on same track tesla moray don smith and kapanadze.

rgds

zzzz

Hi Zilano,
thanks for your consecutive teaching! It refreshs the forum and oir minds again and again.

I agree using fast diodes, as fast we can afford. In this sense the component mentioned before seems to be quite desirable.

15STH06FP
DIODE, HYPERFAST, 600V, 15A, TO220 Diode Configuration: Dual Bridge
20ns @ 1A
£1.12
rgds John

Interesting posts on this subject.

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On Kapanadze

well kapanadze used avramenko for initial start. the start device is triggered with diode free flyback trafo. the output of tesla coil is capacitored with one plate going to tesla hv and one to the rectifier ac point. the other ac point of rectifier was grounded. + and -ve then taken from bridge to drive inverting circuit. thats how kapanadze did it. u can do same way.

post a bigger picture so i can decipher ur ciruit. more better.

rgds

zzzz

I believe what Zilano is referring to when she says a "diode free flyback trafo" is a "diode-free flyback transformer." If that's what she means, well, I had no idea that some flybacks had diodes in them. I'll have to do some research on that.

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On the Question of What is a Diode-Free Flyback Transformer

the color tv flybacks/monitor flybacks these days have inbuilt diode before hv terminal(black terminal).

older tv flybacks that is early color models or black and white tv's have flybacks with no diodes attached before hv out. and these can be used for avramenko plug making. from ac hv terminal.

rgds

zzzz

Image courtesy of Zilano

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Well Sergey!

u can use the hv terminal of tesla coil to the outer enevelope of cap and charge cap with diodes from ground and then use use it to spark the trafo u can get hot electricity.

polarization occurs using cap so use an inductor coil after the cap to make it unpolarized and then rectify it and use it to drive trafo.

rgds

zzzz

So we need an updated schematic.

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well kapanadze used avramenko for initial start. the start device is triggered with diode free flyback trafo. the output of tesla coil is capacitored with one plate going to tesla hv and one to the rectifier ac point. the other ac point of rectifier was grounded. + and -ve then taken from bridge to drive inverting circuit. thats how kapanadze did it. u can do same way.

post a bigger picture so i can decipher ur circuit. more better.


the general circuit used to convert is below

What about the transformer after the cap?

And isn't there a spark gap in the Kapanadze design?

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Kapanadze Patent

http://www.tuks.nl/pdf/Reference_Mat...08103129A1.pdf

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Directory contents of /pdf/Reference_Material/Donald_L_Smith/

http://www.tuks.nl/pdf/Reference_Mat...an-16-2012.pdf

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caduceous coil experimental handbook and my experiments with it.

Caduceus Coil Observations

By Ken Wells 3/26/05
Posted Under Category: Technology Articles

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courtesy of Ken Wells.

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* Yuggoth Investigations

* Earthquake, Calif

* `Live Long & Prosper'

Caduceus Coil Observations

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Background

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The first mention of Caduceus coils we had heard was in the Cater

book, `Awesome Life Force'. Cater here describes a `laser like

pulsed beam of soft electrons' that is ejected from the coil, along

with other bizarre effects such as levitation. Cater states this

beam will radiate in a longitudinal pattern. A Vangard Sciences

document describes other odd effects when testing Caduceus coils,

namely space/time distortion and, again, levitation. Of course,

given these interesting descriptions, it just had to be tested.

The first tests were carried out rather unscientifically and most

haphazardly. A make shift coil was built from 20 gauge insulated

wire that used a 3" rachet extension as a core. Three windings or

cross-overs were used. Pulsed DC at 9 volts was supplied to the coil

at an unknown frequency. Three VAC was measured across the coil. The

effects, however unconfirmable, are bizarre and worth mentioning to

educate further investigators.

The effects were: metal objects within a five foot radius became

magnetized and the tester received a quite obvious skin burn.

Needless to say, the negative effects were quite disturbing.

The second experiment used a 14" iron bar with 19 windings. Pulsed

DC was used again at approximately 12 volts at an unknown frequency.

No burns or magnetism was experienced. The only effect which could

be attributed to this experiment (although there are no direct

linkages) was that the house became `charged'.

The potential in relation to the human body had changed and now

static shocks became annoyingly common. This effect lasted

approximately three months and then dissipated to a normal level. No

other unusual going ons were happening in the house at the time.

Recent Experimentation & Results

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More recent and better controlled experiments with the Caduceus coil

were recently completed. Every drawing of the coil we have seen

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contained only three windings, so that's where we began. The

first test involved the following components:

- 7 inch ferrite rod - 22 gauge magnetic wire

- 8 volt 22,000 rpm motor - 6 volt battery supply

- 9 volt battery - ELF Meter

The magnetic wire was wound around the rod to produce three

crossovers or nodal points along the core. The wire was then

connected to the positive terminal of the 9 volt source and the

pulse mechanism respectively.

The pulse mechanism consisted of the motor output rotor pole rigged

with a special circular fitting, half conductive, half non-

conducting. The connection to the negative pole of the source was

then broken and attached to copper poles which rested (with a slight

tension) on the motor output rotor pole. This produced about 2000

hertz, as measured by an oscilloscope. The waveform was distinctly

spiked, as would be expected given the source.

The ELF meter probe was placed approximately 7 feet from the rod and

left at rest. The meter detects low frequency EMF in the 50 - 70

hertz range, .001 milligauss to 50 gauss. Beginning readings on the

ELF were 1.2 milligaus. The setting was a garage (late night) with

the following mechanisms on: 150 watt and 60 watt lights, 1500 watt

space heater.

A compass was elevated and placed directly behind the coil to record

any magnetic field disturbances. The looped end of the coil was

placed facing to magnetic northwest. The coil was then energized.

No immediate effects were noted. AC voltage measured through the

coil was approximately .3 volts, much less than we expected.

Within 5 minutes time, however, the ELF reading had dropped to .2

milligauss. After eight minutes of time it decreased to .1, after

twelve minutes it read a steady .0 milligaus.

A noticeable decrease in the motor hum was noted after 13 minutes.

After 15 minutes of operation the coil was de-energized. The

following readings were logged after shutdown (nothing moved or

touched):

After 1 min = ELF .1

5 min = .2

10 min = .3

15 min = .4

20 min = .5

25 min = .6

The pattern repeated until the reading had returned to 1.2. Iron

nails that had been placed around the coil showed no signs of

magnetism.

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An interesting psychic note: While the coil was in operation we did

a walk through of the field (the strongest effects appeared to be

within a 14 foot radius). One of the Yuggoth Investigators had

recently been through a trip to England and had observed and felt

the presence of ley lines, so the impression was still fresh in his

mind. He reported feeling a strong ley line within 1 foot of the

looped end of the coil. The line orientation was approximately

north-south.

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To verify the dissipation of 60 cycle and harmonic EMF was linked

to coil operation and not a property of the 22,000 RPM motor, the

coil was disconnected and the motor ran for a equal amount of time.

No effect on the ELF meter was observed. This appeared to confirm

the fact that this dissipation effect was a property of the Caduceus

coil. This raised many puzzling questions. Could 60 hertz

(appliance) radiated EMF be canceled by the use of a properly tuned

Caduceus Coil?

Why had neither of the effects noted in previous experiments been

observed? What element had been key to the 60 hertz effect - wire

turns, input frequency, orientation, voltage or a combination of

all? We decided it was time to get serious. Since no other

documentation existed on the Caduceus coil, we figured it was time

to write some.

The following equipment was secured in order to put this thing

through it's paces: - HP Signal Generator (1-990 MHZ)

- HP Frequency Counter

- Tektronics Oscope

- HP Function Generator

Our thinking was:

1) We had to have much better control over the input source

2) Needed a wider range of input freq/voltages

3) Needed to establish better testing of effect & coil

properties while energized

4) Devise some type of canary (as a means of sensing hazards)

5) Begin all over to answer the questions listed above

Number 4 came about because of a Yuggoth Investigator's brother who

had stopped work to eat lunch. He didn't realize he was perched in

front of a microwave dish until he began to feel a bit hot (powers

of observation not withstanding).

The point was well taken, but beyond the ELF, Compass, common sense

and the body's ability to quickly transmit pain, we knew of no other

way to protect the lily white of our rears.

One interesting idea we had for measurement is connecting the ELF

meter, or alternatively a large wrap of magnetic wire, and use the

scope to monitor wave changes and increase the frequency range

available to us.

Frequency sweeping of the Caduceus coil is currently underway. All

progress will be made available as documented. We expect completion

by March.

* Yuggoth Investigations

* Earthquake, Calif

* `Never Leave a Corpse'

Mobius Coils

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warning: copper antenna rod must be insulated not to touch any coils. one has to use a high inductor(variable) between copper antenna and the feed to avramenko plug to charge battery.(not shown in the above pic)
if one finds that battery is not charging optimally then one can add more 4700mfd/12 v caps in parallel or vary the inductance acting as resistance for hv+hf ac.whichever suits best.

I thought I would post this here. You never know.

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Donald L Smith Inventors Weekend 2001

This is just a test.

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You know how these things go.

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Hi! I am sorry - I am new here, but plug Avramenko in this case shoud be double!

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this will work also and single also as there is resonance between primary and bifilar(bucking secondary) and earth ground. all 3 are in resonance.

zzzz

Hi Zilano,
Can you express your understanding of hot to cold conversion method, using iron or ferrite core transformer (without inverter)? Thank you.

well the system you quoted is also working system but for that we have to choose the right capacitor to work with frequency of 50/60 hz without needing invertor. this setup is for those who understand frequency nomographs and how to calculate frequency and capacitance etc.

for novices and new learners the easiest path is the right way. the simplest and easy circuit with two transistors for 50 hz/60 hz is below.

you can find various circuits for invertor making according to your country grid voltage like 120 v/60 hz 230v/50 hz etc or the rather best option is to use readymade invertor.

always measure output voltage before attaching invertor. the voltage must be 12/24 volt. usually its 12 volt for 800va that is somewhat 720-760 watts. 24 volts is for 1500 va. voltage is critical. if voltage fed is not proper for the rated invertor /inverting circuit it can fry ur invertor or inverting circuit.


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May be I don’t understand something here…. ???
In this method we are pulsing primary of iron core trafo with 50/60 Hz, the same way as tesla air core coil. This is the resonant transformer.
By using this method we have to match frequency of secondary coil with primary and we will get 50/60 HZ cold electricity at output of iron core transformer again.

Looks to me the 50/60 Hz modulation is needed.

resonance happens when two coils have same frequency or harmonic. the output trafo primary resonates 50/60 hz but output secondary doesnt. it just gets same frequency induced by induction and its not air core.

when pulsed dc is used to feed primary the secondary gets induced ac of same frequency.

zzzz

That's what bother me all the time. I'm still not good in electronic and don't know where to place capacitors in such inverter schematic I know they should be here parallel to primary coils and they should be turned on/off sequentially because that is how this circuit works I think (push-pull ?).

try to learn more about induction coils. u will see how pulsed dc is used to induce ac in secondary coil.

2nd thing is when pulsed dc is fed in parallel Lc combination it oscillates at its Lc frequency. understand below


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resonance happens when two coils have same frequency or harmonic. the output trafo primary resonates 50/60 hz but output secondary doesnt. it just gets same frequency induced by induction and its not air core.

So, the primary of iron core trafo must be center tap (bifilar) like kajun kreations said. is it correct?

So, the primary of iron core trafo must be center tap (bifilar) like kajun kreations said. is it correct?

not necessary. but if u use invertor circuit then 3 tap winding is required.

zzzz

I tried 600-230v iron core transformer by using this setup, it didn't work for me. Still thinking why.

coz u tried iron cored for rf. try ferrite core or toroid. if u had rectified and then used dc then u can use iron cored trafo.

zzzz

Thanks for the information on the technology.

[OrionLightShip]

woopy spark gap thingy

In the woopy video, "charging by induction", at 2:52 he shows a little spark gap he is using. I couldn't understand what he said....what is that little thing...I want one.

Orion

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It's a gas discharge tube. Basically a sealed preset spark gap. Mouser or Digikey sells various voltage ratings.

[OrionLightShip]

It's a gas discharge tube. Basically a sealed preset spark gap. Mouser or Digikey sells various voltage ratings.

awesome, much thanks

Orion

[Berg]

Charging by Induction

FYI Only - the Charging by Induction thread dovetails into this thread rather nicely.

Essentially, from what I can tell, the Radiant Collector is charging by induction.

Best regards,

Berg