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  • Originally posted by sigzidfit View Post
    nilrehob,

    Interesting little circuit you have there.

    I have no idea if there is anything to be learned from this but when I plugged it in (slightly modded) to the falstad circuit sim I got the wildest results I've ever seen! HAHA.

    Peace
    PJ
    My aim is the self-oscillating circuit below.
    Will hopefully get time to test it this weekend.
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    Hob Nilre
    http://www.youtube.com/nilrehob

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    • Originally posted by nilrehob View Post
      Really? What happens?/hob
      Basically it implies massive OU. Milliwatts in Gigawatts out.

      If there is any correlation with the real world though who knows.

      Peace
      PJ
      A Phenomenon is anything which can be apprehended by the senses.

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      • Originally posted by sigzidfit View Post
        Basically it implies massive OU. Milliwatts in Gigawatts out.

        If there is any correlation with the real world though who knows.

        Peace
        PJ
        Your way of oscillating the tr's is new to me. Cool!
        Will try to understand it...
        Any suggestion where to read about it?
        Hob Nilre
        http://www.youtube.com/nilrehob

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        • I don't know where to read about it...I kinda made it up fooling around with the simulator....if I remember correctly..when I came up with it I was reading about the "EH Antenna" and trying to understand capacitive networks...still haven't a clue really...just hacking at it...self education can be good but it's expensive.

          Peace
          PJ
          A Phenomenon is anything which can be apprehended by the senses.

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          • Originally posted by sigzidfit View Post
            I don't know where to read about it...I kinda made it up fooling around with the simulator....if I remember correctly..when I came up with it I was reading about the "EH Antenna" and trying to understand capacitive networks...still haven't a clue really...just hacking at it...self education can be good but it's expensive.

            Peace
            PJ
            I'm trying to figure out your osc-variation.
            Doesn't both tr's get on (and off) at the same time?
            Creating a short-circuit?
            The very thing my variation ensured would never happen?
            I'm rather confused here!

            /Hob
            Hob Nilre
            http://www.youtube.com/nilrehob

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            • Don't sweat it bro. I've never built the thing, it's just a simulation....maybe the code is buggy.

              Build your circuit and make your observations. You've done good work in the past. You have my sincere apologies if I've distracted you.

              Peace
              PJ
              Last edited by sigzidfit; 09-03-2009, 12:00 PM. Reason: pidgen english
              A Phenomenon is anything which can be apprehended by the senses.

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              • Originally posted by sigzidfit View Post
                Don't sweat it bro. I've never built the thing, it's just a simulation....maybe the code is buggy.

                Build your circuit and make your observations. You've done good work in the past. You have my sincere apologies if I've distracted you.

                Peace
                PJ
                Well, this circuit works (nothing gets burned) but im not sure its beneficial (more effective than an ordinary circuit with one battery), its like 2 of Bedini's 3-battery-TS put together into one, so to speak, and if the load and the trigger are coils it self-oscillates:


                And I'm pretty sure this works as well, and if the load is a coil it should self-oscillate:


                Both circuits will never make a short-circuit, never, which, in my opinion, is one of the hazards with TS otherwise.

                /Hob
                Hob Nilre
                http://www.youtube.com/nilrehob

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                • Originally posted by sigzidfit View Post
                  Basically it implies massive OU. Milliwatts in Gigawatts out.

                  If there is any correlation with the real world though who knows.

                  Peace
                  PJ
                  Hal Puthoff would be happy with the idea. A good start. But the output needs to be controllable.
                  Paul-R

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                  • Originally posted by sigzidfit View Post
                    Don't sweat it bro. I've never built the thing, it's just a simulation....maybe the code is buggy.

                    Build your circuit and make your observations. You've done good work in the past. You have my sincere apologies if I've distracted you.

                    Peace
                    PJ
                    I can't get it out of my head...
                    Is it possible that you, in your simulation, can measure the base-emitter voltage on each Tr, simultaneously, as a function of time?
                    Just to see how the Tr's operate when the circuit is running?

                    /Hob
                    Hob Nilre
                    http://www.youtube.com/nilrehob

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                    • The simulator is here:

                      http://www.falstad.com/circuit/

                      Check it out.

                      I think the original intent of the program was to teach about resonant circuits through visualization and not as a hard core design tool. The interface is simple and you don't need programming skills to use....thats why I keep going back to it.

                      Peace
                      PJ
                      A Phenomenon is anything which can be apprehended by the senses.

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                      • nilrehob,

                        OK, I went back and drew your circuit with my mods again and I say for sure it doesn't simulate the same every time. To me that indicates a limitation in the code. Anyway if you get to foolin around with it, right click on a component and choose "view in scope" then right click on the scope display, if its a transistor you'll get a choice of what part to display in the meter.

                        There is a thread on this simulator...maybe I'll post some interesting sims there...the guy that publishes the simulator improves and updates his code pretty often...maybe we could get him on board and he could help us see whats going on inside these crazy circuits we've all been playing with.

                        Don't let my BS slow you down dude...I'm looking forward to the report on the results of YOUR circuit when you get it built for real.

                        Peace
                        PJ
                        A Phenomenon is anything which can be apprehended by the senses.

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                        • sigzidfit@
                          Thats a pretty nice simulator. I wanna look at the math in the code.

                          nilrehob@
                          Can you explain a simple little walk through of your cuircut? Fill in the detail as to why it won't short.

                          I appriciate it
                          Matt

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                          • Originally posted by Matthew Jones View Post
                            Thats a pretty nice simulator. I wanna look at the math in the code.
                            Dude, it's like a bad video game...I've spent way too much time playing with it.
                            A Phenomenon is anything which can be apprehended by the senses.

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                            • I believe ya. I am the same way with Vizimag. It doesn't have Java source code though. I like that.

                              Matt

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                              • Originally posted by Matthew Jones View Post
                                Can you explain a simple little walk through of your cuircut? Fill in the detail as to why it won't short.
                                The transistors work like a SPDT-switch:
                                * if current is going up through the inductor it will go through Da and into Ta making current go from A to C.
                                * if current is going down through the inductor it will go through Tb and Db making current go from C to B.
                                * if there is no current going through the inductor there will be no current through any of the transistors.

                                Current can never go from A to B, since current has to go both ways through the inductor to make that happen, and it will never will.

                                The inductor can of course be any signal-generator going between + and -.

                                /Hob
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                                Hob Nilre
                                http://www.youtube.com/nilrehob

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