Use for the Tesla Switch

[Inquorate]

I think I understand the three battery setup john posted, right up to 'balancing the load' which I suppose experiment will help shed more light on.

Anyway, this was my take on the system / idea a while ago;

YouTube - need help with a circuit

I'll try post some videos on the 3 battery system with what I have on hand.

Thanks john for your bravery in breaking silence.

Love and light

[Matthew Jones]

@John Bedini Posted
I have done relays including car solenoids after a time they stick shorting things out

Have you ever tried anything pure mechanical?

Are transistors the key to the sustained charging in the battery?
Or is the method of power transfer and low loss in the load the only keys need to be followed?

I have had several good running Tesla Switch's that were either Hybrids of mechanical and electronics or pure mechanical. They often prolong the runtime alot further than one would expect but never have I been able to sustain the charge in the batteries.
The latest system I am working on will have a motor and a back charge generator, (Maybe a Kromrey).
Although a good system will charge the batteries initially they do eventually get to a discharged state. Is your experience or opinion that a well tuned system will sustain its batteries indefinatly or is discharge an inevitable fact?

Thanks for Posting John, it means alot.

Matthew Jones

[Helijason]

Loads, switching algorithms, and frequencies

After going through this thread I haven't seen much description of what kind of loads have been used with particular circuits and what frequencies were needed to run the circuit. Are there proven algorithms for switching a mechanical/relay 6switch Tesla-Switch.

My current thought process is to wire a Tesla-Switch using a PLC (Essentially a rack mount microprocessor with interchangable cards for inputs and outputs) and program particular algorithms for testing frequency and loads. The goal is to understand what we need to do control the circuit for a transistor/microprocessor implementation.

Regards.

Jason

[John_Bedini]

Tesla Switch

Matthew Jones,
In the 70's it was found that the correct pulse charging is what caused this effect. The battery as you know we are all taught the current is what charges batteries, how untrue. What is really going on is a over potential of the battery itself. The problem is that all the cells in the battery do not except the same charge, what is the trick then? The trick is the high voltage spike this divides evenly to all the cells in the form of current pulses.

But what goes on in that battery is something much different as the battery develops it's own currents in the chemical. to do this you must cause a high potential charge and cause the Ions to start moving without the use of current in the system. Ok how do we do this, one way was the SG machine in constant high voltage pulses. The other is abrupt capacitor discharges in one second pulses, this causes the battery sustained for long periods of time, or time charging.

The Tesla switch is something much different in the way charging is performed. The switch must be set to perform the same function as a capacitor discharge system allowing the differential across the load. So if the system is 12 volts each battery you must dump 24 volts across 12 volts very quick and cut off before things boil. 24 volts across three collector emitter drops + the diode leaves about 18 volts or less depending on junction loss, now the load must leave the differential to charge that 12 volt battery so you do not have much left.

The load must be chosen very careful or you will loose and this will not leave anything for charging. People are using this system with mechanical switching to run loads with good results. However the Electrodyne-Corp has used the Original Tesla Switch for years in four battery systems. I'm Posting the original diagram from Ron so you can make your own decision in how to build this switch.

Just remember one thing you can only have what is left over to use, you could run an SG motor, or a Radiant Oscillator with it very easy and free yourself from the grid. I have done that in 1984 in Sylmar California when they took away all my power from my house over this energy. Yes they did cut the power lines right off my house only to find out I still had power. They were hoping to condemn my property for lack of power, they will do it to you also if they find a working machine. I will attach what I was sent.
John Bedini

Have you ever tried anything pure mechanical?

Are transistors the key to the sustained charging in the battery?
Or is the method of power transfer and low loss in the load the only keys need to be followed?

I have had several good running Tesla Switch's that were either Hybrids of mechanical and electronics or pure mechanical. They often prolong the runtime alot further than one would expect but never have I been able to sustain the charge in the batteries.
The latest system I am working on will have a motor and a back charge generator, (Maybe a Kromrey).
Although a good system will charge the batteries initially they do eventually get to a discharged state. Is your experience or opinion that a well tuned system will sustain its batteries indefinatly or is discharge an inevitable fact?

Thanks for Posting John, it means alot.

Matthew Jones

[ldissing]

Test of 3 battery switch

Matthew Jones,

The Tesla switch is something much different in the way charging is performed. The switch must be set to perform the same function as a capacitor discharge system allowing the differential across the load. So if the system is 12 volts each battery you must dump 24 volts across 12 volts very quick and cut off before things boil. 24 volts across three collector emitter drops + the diode leaves about 18 volts or less depending on junction loss, now the load must leave the differential to charge that 12 volt battery so you do not have much left.

The load must be chosen very careful or you will loose and this will not leave anything for charging. People are using this system with mechanical switching to run loads with good results. However the Electrodyne-Corp has used the Original Tesla Switch for years in four battery systems. I'm Posting the original diagram from Ron so you can make your own decision in how to build this switch.
John Bedini

John,

It has been a long time, never had a chance to speak with you, but I've been fascinated by your devices for a long time...since 1997.

Did you mean that you have 6 volts, 24 minus transistor drops minus diode drops AND minus 12V for the third battery? Should we only be running 6 volt loads or less? Just a clarification for me, although I know you mean what you say!

I've built a lot of things, but I just built your 3 battery test. Ran different loads across it (used optical to switch in the negative of the 3rd battery.

I'm using 2n3055s for this, because it was all I had at the moment. They are not hot in the slightest.

Motors and lights are what I ran. When I ran a 10 W halogen, my 3rd battery jumped to 14.5 volts immediately, so I shut that down until I have more of a handle on this beast. I also ran a 14V 200 ma bulb and at 191 us switching, the 3rd battery started coming down in voltage from 13.3 to 13.26, and the 1st and 2nd battery seem to be holding at 12.68V and 12.52V repectively. The waveform on the 3rd transistor base (from the neg of the third battery to the emitter of the transistor) is through the switch and it has a drop in voltage, then a sharp rise above the normal high, then back down to the "normal" high, then it starts all over. The on/off is exactly a 50% square wave to the optical trigger. I have yet to see the voltage rise on the 1st and 2nd battery, but they did stop going down. I believe that at all other settings, the 3rd battery will increase in voltage, but this is the first time I've seen it decrease.

I'm sincerely grateful for your presence in this group. I've waited a long time to hear from the horses mouth. Read your pages 100s of times. Built the Tesla switch with relays, worked well. Tried to build with transistors, but could not make it run well. Built energizers, cap pulsers, solid state energizers, etc.

Any more advise is welcome.

Humbly,

Leroy

[Matthew Jones]

John Bedini

What I have been primarily looking is the loss of energy from a counter charge. Transformers, Motors, an inductive loads in general produce a counter EMF. This counter energy is only harmful to the power source if it is opposite of what you are putting in (in the case of a TS).
So I have been working on a unipolar motor. The counter EMF does not seem to dissipate but actually serializes with the flow. Adding to the charge.

The motor runs like a motor on a PWM controller. The difference is the switching from the Tesla Switch controls the speed.

I guess from what you say I should be close to being on the right track.

...they will do it to you also if they find a working machine.

Fact is I show mine off at every chance. I've gotten the boot at several green energy events. Get laughed at alot to. Been warned a few times.
Thanks for more warning but you and me have different pasts...I guess if they want to open that can of worms....

Thanks again,and I can only speak for myself but I truly appreciate everything you give out.

Matt

[John_Bedini]

Tesla Switch

Leroy,
Yes what ever you have across the load is a differential voltage you need to subtract that from the total to keep the battery charging. The Tesla switch is a four battery system and you only have one side your working with so you can not charge the other side until you build the full switch. The Tesla switch must alternate to work properly. You did see the increase on the third battery with the quartz light 14.5 volts this shows that the switch works. change one of the batteries out and bring it to 14.5 volts then move the next battery and bring it to 14.5. you should have three charged batteries. try not to boil the batteries. You only have one side to experiment with. Look at Ron's Drawing I posted to see the full switch.
John B

John,

It has been a long time, never had a chance to speak with you, but I've been fascinated by your devices for a long time...since 1997.

Did you mean that you have 6 volts, 24 minus transistor drops minus diode drops AND minus 12V for the third battery? Should we only be running 6 volt loads or less? Just a clarification for me, although I know you mean what you say!

I've built a lot of things, but I just built your 3 battery test. Ran different loads across it (used optical to switch in the negative of the 3rd battery.

I'm using 2n3055s for this, because it was all I had at the moment. They are not hot in the slightest.

Motors and lights are what I ran. When I ran a 10 W halogen, my 3rd battery jumped to 14.5 volts immediately, so I shut that down until I have more of a handle on this beast. I also ran a 14V 200 ma bulb and at 191 us switching, the 3rd battery started coming down in voltage from 13.3 to 13.26, and the 1st and 2nd battery seem to be holding at 12.68V and 12.52V repectively. The waveform on the 3rd transistor base (from the neg of the third battery to the emitter of the transistor) is through the switch and it has a drop in voltage, then a sharp rise above the normal high, then back down to the "normal" high, then it starts all over. The on/off is exactly a 50% square wave to the optical trigger. I have yet to see the voltage rise on the 1st and 2nd battery, but they did stop going down. I believe that at all other settings, the 3rd battery will increase in voltage, but this is the first time I've seen it decrease.

I'm sincerely grateful for your presence in this group. I've waited a long time to hear from the horses mouth. Read your pages 100s of times. Built the Tesla switch with relays, worked well. Tried to build with transistors, but could not make it run well. Built energizers, cap pulsers, solid state energizers, etc.

Any more advise is welcome.

Humbly,

Leroy

[John_Bedini]

Matthew Jones,
What ever your past is does not make a difference to me, and yes you are on the track.
In the past I could not do that, so I can understand you getting booted a few times so have I. Your right if they want to open that can of worms we could say allot but this not the place or the time. Don't bother with GREEN ENERGY events it's all phony feckless people. You could show it off to me anytime and you would not get the boot, they only boot you when your right. Hope the drawing helped as that is what I got handed in 1984 and had the balls to build it and show it in front of 800 engineers, they will never forget it.
John B

John Bedini

What I have been primarily looking is the loss of energy from a counter charge. Transformers, Motors, an inductive loads in general produce a counter EMF. This counter energy is only harmful to the power source if it is opposite of what you are putting in (in the case of a TS).
So I have been working on a unipolar motor. The counter EMF does not seem to dissipate but actually serializes with the flow. Adding to the charge.

The motor runs like a motor on a PWM controller. The difference is the switching from the Tesla Switch controls the speed.

I guess from what you say I should be close to being on the right track.



Fact is I show mine off at every chance. I've gotten the boot at several green energy events. Get laughed at alot to. Been warned a few times.
Thanks for more warning but you and me have different pasts...I guess if they want to open that can of worms....

Thanks again,and I can only speak for myself but I truly appreciate everything you give out.

Matt

[ldissing]

Transistor Tesla Switch

I'm not sure you all realize it (probably do, but had to say it), but John Bedini just told us all how to build the switch with transistors. It is all there minus the switching, but we all ready know how to do that. Can't get a whole lot simpler than this, complicated timing for the load you want to run, but...JB just laid it out for us.

I'm going to build the full switch as soon as my transistors arrive - should be today! I'll let ya'll know how it goes.

Thanks John Bedini for the schematic and reply.

Leroy

[Inquorate]

Answers

I'm not sure you all realize it (probably do, but had to say it), but John Bedini just told us all how to build the switch with transistors. It is all there minus the switching, but we all ready know how to do that. Can't get a whole lot simpler than this, complicated timing for the load you want to run, but...JB just laid it out for us.

I'm going to build the full switch as soon as my transistors arrive - should be today! I'll let ya'll know how it goes.

Thanks John Bedini for the schematic and reply.

Leroy

Yeah I understand - all the answers are in the last 2 pages, but I don't want to deviate too much from my last plans; already committed.

We've got a few years yet to experiment and debate.

Watch this space closely though.

Love and light

[Matthew Jones]

Don't bother with GREEN ENERGY events it's all phony feckless people.

SO I have come to find out. Its a shame but its true, they follow the same mis truths as close as they can.

You could show it off to me anytime and you would not get the boot

We'll make that a Date.... as soon as possible.

Give us a heads up on a kit, when you get one ready.

Thanks so much
Matt

[John_K]

John Bedini,

Thanks for all the info. Can't believe it's been a year since I was at your shop. Would have loved to go for a cruise up to the lake in the truck or the 'Vette, maybe next time?

Quick question: We know that the SG loves to be impedance matched - primary to the coil. Is there any similarities with the TS? I've studied the Bill and Ray device, read the Eike Mueller report dozens of times and had good result with impedance matching on a rotored SG.

The clarifier does amazing things! Thanks...

John K.

[nvisser]

Nali2001,
I will say if you all tried to reproduce it from the diagram floating around that is in the book it could fail because the original diagram has been changed.
I have corrected the errors and will be posting soon on what you can do with it. When the circuit is built correct it will power loads and charge the batteries.
John Bedini

John
This must be the most exciting event in the last 24 years for free energy researchers
Will you post the diagram with the audio transformers? You mentioned that we need to use the audio transformers between base and collector. You also mentioned the use of optocouplers Are they used together in the same circuit?

[StevanC]

funny

Funny i thought of TS last week (before I was aware of this thred):

I had made a coil-pulser and realized i want it to rejuvenate batteries, then i realized it should back pop the running battery of a capacitor.

I couldn't think of a simpler setup than the 2 capacitor half TS?

I'm actually about to build one... (about=few weeks)

Since John Bedini follows the thread I figured why not ask the old master:

How You choose Your transistors?

Should I go ahead with few BD249/250 i have or is there a thing to watch for on choosing a BJT?

I think i understand the switching, it's about saturating the device into low resistance - and we seek low VceSAT transistors right?

like the BC639/BC640 or the MJ15003, no?

Or am I miles off?

Stevan "the pest" C.

[Bit's-n-Bytes]

John
This must be the most exciting event in the last 24 years for free energy researchers
Will you post the diagram with the audio transformers? You mentioned that we need to use the audio transformers between base and collector. You also mentioned the use of optocouplers Are they used together in the same circuit?

I am hoping this setup is simular to what John is talking about. It could also be that I am way off in left field and I will hope to see the real illustration.

Bit's