Use for the Tesla Switch

[Bit's-n-Bytes]

I realized that I made an error in my first drawing. The trigger wire was wrong.
I also added a charge diode from the load to the charge battery. Let me
know what you think. Thanks Will Reed

Have you tried this? Do you have any test results?

Bit's

[ldissing]

Ok,
I'm going back all over what we discussed here, I will start at ground zero if I must do that. It should be quite easy to make the simple circuits work.
Aaron is correct that what Peter and I discussed has been ignored. I also found that what Bill and Ray handed me as a diagram does not work, something is missing from the switch. Where did I get that wave, across the switching transistors in the four battery Tesla switch.

The key factor may be the driver transformers!!!!!!!!! in the original circuit.

Baldinelli is the guy Aaron is talking about, this is the key to the success of the system. In the statements by Gabriel Kron, it is said what to change, Leroy pointed this out in a early post here. The currents can be very confusing as they take place in semiconductors.

Kron calls them 'lamellar' currents, A network with the simultaneous presence of both [COLOR="Red"]closed and open paths.
...
Can be Interpreted as, small branch currents combining to form one big current, any semiconductor works this way, even different types of rocks.

“When only positive and negative real numbers exist, it is customary to replace a positive resistance by an inductance and a negative resistance by a capacitor
This is a sneaky statement but correct.
Looking at this statement, if collecting negative energy we use the capacitor, example, SG circuit.

The battery acts just like a capacitor, resistor, inductor. what is in the SG circuit that uses the positive, the coil. The semiconductor runs on 'lamellar' currents, how else could it move electrons, but through holes, which are branches or small pipes.

John B

JB,

Thank you for commenting on those quotes. I've always said that I would not be a "good" teacher, as the things I know are so ingrained that I can not go to the level where the student is.

Your students (us) are not all "educated" people. Even the supposedly educated people have been taught all the wrong things, so even they are not "educated". We are learning from your example and the things you tell us, but even then, the level from one of your experience is so much higher than ours, that we have difficulty hearing and seeing what you are saying. Please continue to have patience with us and our difficulties in understanding. We are building, and testing, so that is something. If we can learn in addition to this, this world WILL be a better place.

When the student is ready, a teacher will appear. That is you for us JB, we are eager to learn and more importantly do.

Even you said the other day...a light bulb when off. Even the master has moments when he says...why did I not think of this before.

I am beginning to believe that "radiant" is not what I used to think it was. I think it is a current derived from a potential that is not allowed to "go" to the place it was intended, i.e. a potential that is spiked through and inductor and stored into a capacitor. It didn't get to where it really wanted to go, which was to the dipole that created it. It will remain radiant until it can get back there...if it can get back there. Now, we have the same situation in the Tesla switch, maybe we should call it the Baldinelli switch, but the currents can get back to the dipole that created it if, the battery does not "consume" it by creating an internal lattice on the plates before it can leave. It sort of floats around for a while, waiting to get back to that dipole. If we "wait" long enough, the battery will absorb it into itself and onto the plates. But, I'm just thinking out loud again, and I will now stop.

Now, Baldinelli was creating AC power from his invention. He had to be using a transformer and creating 120V AC power from a 12V potential, i.e. from the potential difference of the two battery sides. The only logical place for this was between the two negatives (or positives).

When I was using relays for the TS, there were no transistors (except to fire the relays). There was a pretty good spark on make/breaks of those relays. When a capacitor was put in the AC line across the bridge, the arcing mostly stopped (it was a 24000 uF cap) and I could charge yet another battery with the spike created from the relay coil. I do not know the COP of that setup, but it was very good based on the run time and charging of a separate battery totally unassociated with the TS setup.

You said, "I am measuring across the switching transistors". I assume (making an @$$ out of u and me) this means from the collector at the low side to the emitter on the high side? When I measured here, I did not see the waveform you hand drew, but it is possible that I've blown my scope probes up although, they do show some things in other places that I would expect. Going to have to buy some more for this testing.

You have also said, "Why are you guys talking about inductors with the TS". I assumed (again a very bad thing to do) this meant that we should not be using inductors. But, a bi-filar wound coil would be another thing entirely, no? What to do with the "extra" energy on that second coil?

Thank you JB for your patience with me,

Leroy

[hherby]

Plazma, can you post your schematic for this setup. You should be able to scope your base to see what kind triggering is happening.

Thanks

Bit's

@Bit's:
Here is a set of scope traces of the serial transistor (MJL21194) being triggered by the H11D1 through the 1uf cap and diode in parallel. The top trace is collector to emitter. The bottom trace is base to emitter. I noticed when closed, the CE voltage does not drop to zero.

I'm a novice when it comes to using a scope. Any ideas on how to filter out the 60hz oscope power supply ripple so it doesn't show up in traces?

@JB:
Nothing you post is ever ignored. Just as Vtech does, I collect every piece of information I can. The meaning and significance of some of the material and how to apply it may not be immediately understood in my case. But with your gracious help, the murky waters are becoming clearer. Thanks for all that you have given us.

In Ron's setup with the transformers, is it reasonable to assume he was burning out the Base-emitter junction? Would a diode from base to emitter have solved his problem and aided in the charging process?
Relating to Kron, would the transformer-base-emitter loop be a closed path coexisting with the collector-emitter as the open path and their respective branch currents being additive?

Thanks
Alex

[ldissing]

I realized that I made an error in my first drawing. The trigger wire was wrong.
I also added a charge diode from the load to the charge battery. Let me
know what you think. Thanks Will Reed

Will,

Perhaps you also need a resistor from the collector to the base, as in the solid state Bedini charger, so that "some" potential can flow to the base allowing a bigger current to flow through that bifilar inductor and induce voltage on the trigger? Just a suggestion.

Leroy

[rosehillworks]

Load/Charge

Bit's
I do not have an oscilloscope, only a common voltage and amperage meter. I have run a load while charging a battery with Bedini's self oscillating circuit by putting the load in the discharge path of the capacitor leading to the battery. This seemed to work quite well and didn't seem to diminish the charging rate. I am hoping this will be a far more efficient configuration and I am open to advice and will post any results that I can. I am not an electrical engineer, just a homeschool dad hoping to get this right so I can teach it to my children. I hope this helps. Thanks, Will Reed

[Bit's-n-Bytes]

@Bit's:
Here is a set of scope traces of the serial transistor (MJL21194) being triggered by the H11D1 through the 1uf cap and diode in parallel. The top trace is collector to emitter. The bottom trace is base to emitter. I noticed when closed, the CE voltage does not drop to zero.

I'm a novice when it comes to using a scope. Any ideas on how to filter out the 60hz oscope power supply ripple so it doesn't show up in traces?Thanks
Alex

Alex, it almost appears that you are not driving any type of load when the tranny fires. Check your circuit, it appears your tranny is switching ok but it does not look like it is turning a load on.

Just my thoughts.

Bit's

[rosehillworks]

Leroy,
Thanks for the suggestion, this is another thought. I drew the radiant charger like the monopole circuit because I know it is all over the internet. The radiant charger that I use is self oscillating from page 46 in Bedini's book. I just didn't want to draw that particular diagram without his permission. Thanks, Will Reed

[Plazma]

On the Other Hand . . .

Hi Bits,

I follow what you say but is there another possibility (based on the transformer polarity you rightfully question) as follows:

Maybe when the tranny gets going the voltage at the top switch fully charges that so-called "1000 ohm coil" cutting off the tranny and then that transformer coil field collapses feeding all kinds of radient spikes forward to the two batteries in parallel being charged? Sounds a lot like what happens (sort of) in the SSG coil - and in the scalar charger coil as decribed in the Free Energy Book - and so forth. Or maybe its a combined effect.

Very suggestive Post - and thanks for the thoughtful link
to the Ike Meuller schematic.



Best,

Plazma

Ok John and team, in reviewing the schematic created during Eike Muller's visit to your lab and the subsequent report, it appears the switching function of the tranny's enjoy the automatic delay (I sub L) function of the transformers on the base. That said a signal is applied and the tranny's follow somewhat of a wave function due to the inherent delay of current flow in the inductor. We know that voltage will lead current "ELI" by 90 degrees if it is truly inductive, therefore the base begins to bias and current begins to flow. We then cut the signal to the tranny off abruptly and get the radiant spike going in the reverse direction. So if we can for clairty sake say that current is flowing clockwise and potential counter clockwise during the switching of S1, S3, and S6 and then revereses when firing the other tranny's. Also ther is the polarity of the transformers connected to the base.

Is this the right track?


Bit's

[Mark]

Hello Inquorate

Thanks for the reply. What kind of diodes do you recommend?

The setup I'm running now is a slow process although I am using large automotive batteries that I reconditioned quite a while ago.

I'm also considering adding another solid state energizer to the load, in parallel to increase the load. With just a single SG load I only have a 1 watt load. So I've got plenty of power left over to play with.

With 2 or more energizers as loads I also can keep adding charging batteries. I think I have 2 or 3 more reconditioned auto batteries still.

I wish I just had a little more knowledge of electronics so I could understand more and contribute more. But maybe I'll stir up something that could get someone else to have an AHA moment.

Mark

[Inquorate]

Hello Inquorate

Thanks for the reply. What kind of diodes do you recommend?

Mark

the 1n4148 used in dr stiffler's circuit should be good, or if you can find them, the ultrafast version of 1n4007; uf4007

otherwise the positive voltage spike from electron bunching

Spike - Vox

will go thru the diode before it can shut

i should get it built soon, the one i have in mind will have two or three extra recovery coil/diodes, for the price of eddy currents in the copper wire.

love and light

[hherby]

Alex, it almost appears that you are not driving any type of load when the tranny fires. Check your circuit, it appears your tranny is switching ok but it does not look like it is turning a load on.

Just my thoughts.

Bit's

The scope is connected to one of the transitors that puts the two batteries in series. I am running two loads. One on each side as in JB's schem. The load is between the parallel battery negative side diodes and the serial bank lower battery negative. I am using 4 transistors. 1 on each side to put the banks in series and the two top transistors for connecting the series banks to the parallel banks. The loads are #47 bulbs and they are flashing independently in concert with my timer LED's. I will try it on one of the yop tansistors to see if it looks different.

Alex

[Bit's-n-Bytes]

The scope is connected to one of the transitors that puts the two batteries in series. I am running two loads. One on each side as in JB's schem. The load is between the parallel battery negative side diodes and the serial bank lower battery negative. I am using 4 transistors. 1 on each side to put the banks in series and the two top transistors for connecting the series banks to the parallel banks. The loads are #47 bulbs and they are flashing independently in concert with my timer LED's. I will try it on one of the yop tansistors to see if it looks different.

Alex

Give me scope shot of what effectivally would be the neg leg going to batt 3 just after the load.

Thanks Alex,

Bit's

[Bit's-n-Bytes]

It's a game of ping pong

Hi Bits,

I follow what you say but is there another possibility (based on the transformer polarity you rightfully question) as follows:

Maybe when the tranny gets going the voltage at the top switch fully charges that so-called "1000 ohm coil" cutting off the tranny and then that transformer coil field collapses feeding all kinds of radient spikes forward to the two batteries in parallel being charged? Sounds a lot like what happens (sort of) in the SSG coil - and in the scalar charger coil as decribed in the Free Energy Book - and so forth. Or maybe its a combined effect.

Very suggestive Post - and thanks for the thoughtful link
to the Ike Meuller schematic.



Best,

Plazma

Take a longer look at the schematic, focus in on the base circuit. A signal is presented to the transformers, the first in the string begin to fire, all the while the cap at the end of the circuit start to charge, we cut off the signal and the cap returns the voltage in the opposite direction, now the closest to the cap tranny's fire, then we repeat the process.

Bit's

[ldissing]

Take a longer look at the schematic, focus in on the base circuit. A signal is presented to the transformers, the first in the string begin to fire, all the while the cap at the end of the circuit start to charge, we cut off the signal and the cap returns the voltage in the opposite direction, now the closest to the cap tranny's fire, then we repeat the process.

Bit's

I've looked this circuit over many times and Bit's is right. Seems they are firing in order. You guys thinking that JB was meaning you need those transformers. I've thought about this too, but why is JBs working without them?

Leroy

[hherby]

Give me scope shot of what effectivally would be the neg leg going to batt 3 just after the load.

Thanks Alex,

Bit's

Negative of probe connected to bat3 side of load. Pos of probe connected to neg output of parallel battery diodes.