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  • Thanks for the info John, your right about the Energenx's website and yes i have seen the latest videos, very impresive. I build your version of the switch and still playing with different loads, coils and capacitors to get some sort of gain

    wanted to see the video's again but they are gone?
    Last edited by scratchrobot; 03-20-2010, 12:13 AM.

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    • Energenx videos gone from YouTube

      Scratchrobot,

      Yes, it appears ALL of the Energenx (and rickfriedrich) videos have been taken off YouTube.

      I was fortunate enough to use Keepvid to capture a few of the earlier ones that were released.

      John K.


      Originally posted by scratchrobot View Post
      Thanks for the info John, your right about the Energenx's website and yes i have seen the latest videos, very impresive. I build your version of the switch and still playing with different loads, coils and capacitors to get some sort of gain

      wanted to see the video's again but they are gone?
      http://teslagenx.com

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      • Yes, it appears ALL of the Energenx (and rickfriedrich) videos have been taken off YouTube.
        I guess people might have been super analyzing the videos for parts lists.

        LOL

        Matt

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        • Why didn't i saved those vid's I would love to see them again.
          I'm gonna save Bit's vid's right away, you never know

          Found some vid's from cest73 very interesting..

          Regards, scratchrobot
          Last edited by scratchrobot; 03-20-2010, 12:36 PM.

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          • Today I read some old JB posts again and thought I will post some of them to make us all think again.
            I got a serous Cap pulsar going. Charging a bank of 90 000uf up to 20V and than trigger a relay with a 20v zener from the caps to discharge into my 4 X 7Ah batteries in parallel.
            I charge the caps up with radiant reactive pulses from a Joule thief and my small hard drive SSG .They take 3 second to fill from 12V to 20V before discharging into the batteries.
            The batteries are in the conditioning phase for the 2nd week.
            In the beginning they could run a 11W cfl from a small inverter for 20 minutes.
            Today I stopped the test after 4 hours and the batteries were still on 12.6V.
            I use a relay to make it easy and to try and get it working without all the transistors. There are not a lot of sparking on the relay contacts as I parallel some of the contacts and while the caps discharge the radiant output off the ssg and joule thief are connected to a 30 000uf cap that prevent the voltage to go up to high in that 1 second.
            Here are the JB posts that covers the Solar charger:


            Solar Kick
            You know a light bulb just turned on. What if we could use the Bi- Polar switch in the Tesla Switch then we would know when it was off. One switch for charging a cap the other for the dump.
            JB
            Here is the right drawing for the switch, it shows where the hall devices go.
            JB
            http://www.energeticforum.com/attach...lar-switch.jpg
            Leave the 1K
            also protect the hall positive voltage buy using a 470 resistor and a Zener diode to ground. That way you can never blow the hall out. Use this diagram only.
            It's a fast little devil.
            JB

            Make a Solar oscillator out of that or make a new one it will work much better. Just make an oscillator out of the sg circuit by reversing the trigger wire, then it will charge in the moon light. I do it all the time when I can see the moon. My lights are always on with that oscillator. Hook it up like the joule thief but use the SG coil with the resistor in the base circuit.
            JB

            Originally Posted by John_Bedini
            John K
            I have a video of a solar charger I want you to see later using the Tesla Switch scare your pants off. I'm going to talk to Rick about you testing one. I have been very busy with this switch, ground current next. Then I will post.
            JB

            I cant say much as this is a company product, but when it finally dawns on what you just saw. you will know to keep working and you will get it. I do hope the best for the world.
            But I will do everything one can do to get it out. its plain and simple no heat in the batteries at all. It's a Modified Tesla Switch Solar Charger, but can be used on the motors also.
            53 watt in 148 out. here is the link. I won't answer the question you posted, but you guys are very close.
            JB

            I will say this much the caps are for the solar panel, like the solar kick, You will find a patent pending under my name on Google patents. what you can't see is drivers pnp, I did post the BI-Polar switch, it's part of it. The circuit is far different then what your working on so don't second guess this. Sixteen switching points. you need the basic circuit working with the Original Tesla Switch to understand this, no guessing, Peter also gave the hint in his second to last post about who invented the original. It's was not Ronald B.
            JB
            Device and method for pulse charging ... - Google Patent Search

            No, it's patent number US 2008/0129250 A1.
            Spoke to JB this morning, he told me to say that the caps are there for the solar panel. The batteries you saw in the video were frozen, Rick put them out the back because they were gone. JB pulled them inside and used them for the test, the load tester is rated at 500A. So it's also a great battery rejuvenator.

            You can use either of these two devices to do the charging, as I said it's been in front of your eyes so long ,your burned out. These two patents were used with the solar kick. To use them you must change the impedance of the solar panels and use inverted circuits on the switching devices. The monopole group that Rick runs has built many of these chargers.
            John B

            Unfortunately the batteries work by moving Ions and the speed it not fast, it's a slow process.
            The Tesla switch only uses two currents, and it is current between sides, one high and one low and this keeps switching.
            The Patent is one half of the Tesla Switch, these two patents combine to make the Solar Kick. To make it work The impedance of the panel must be changed, by building up of charges to high potential.

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            • "and use inverted circuits on the switching devices"
              Can anybody explains what is meant by that. I think I got a idea but is not to sure about it.
              Leroy..anybody?

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              • Self Running "Cap Pulsinator"

                Take a look team;

                YouTube - Cap Pulsinator.MPG




                Thanks

                Bit's
                Last edited by Bit's-n-Bytes; 05-25-2010, 02:53 AM.

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                • Hi Bit's,

                  Nice work!

                  Can you please post your code?

                  This is a bit like Dr. Spark's setup which I was playing with yesterday. What sort of charging are you seeing on the battery?


                  John K.

                  Originally posted by Bit's-n-Bytes View Post
                  Take a look team;

                  YouTube - Cap Pulsinator.MPG




                  Thanks

                  Bit's
                  http://teslagenx.com

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                  • Originally posted by John_K View Post
                    Hi Bit's,

                    Nice work!

                    Can you please post your code?

                    This is a bit like Dr. Spark's setup which I was playing with yesterday. What sort of charging are you seeing on the battery?


                    John K.
                    Here you go John K.

                    Main:

                    do
                    high 5
                    pause 10
                    low 5

                    high 4
                    pause 10
                    low 4
                    pause 50
                    inc b1
                    loop while b1 <100

                    let b1 = 0
                    high 6
                    pause 50
                    low 6



                    goto Main

                    To early to tell on the charging. The batt voltage did raise about .2 in about 20Min.

                    Bit's

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                    • Thanks Bit's

                      I'm off to get a transformer and some other stuff. I should be able to knock this up today.


                      John K.

                      P.S. I didn't get too far with my dual SS SGs as a load for the TS. It worked, but the batteries ran down over time. I tried dumping the caps into the TS batteries a few different ways, but whatever I tried I couldn't make the batteries charge up. I did have success dumping the caps to other batteries and probably could have rotated the batteries around to get a nett gain, but not what I was looking for.

                      Originally posted by Bit's-n-Bytes View Post
                      Here you go John K.

                      Main:

                      do
                      high 5
                      pause 10
                      low 5

                      high 4
                      pause 10
                      low 4
                      pause 50
                      inc b1
                      loop while b1 <100

                      let b1 = 0
                      high 6
                      pause 50
                      low 6



                      goto Main

                      To early to tell on the charging. The batt voltage did raise about .2 in about 20Min.

                      Bit's
                      http://teslagenx.com

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                      • Originally posted by nvisser View Post
                        "and use inverted circuits on the switching devices"
                        Can anybody explains what is meant by that. I think I got a idea but is not to sure about it.
                        Leroy..anybody?
                        Hi Vessie,

                        JB always uses inverted circuits where possible. In the TS, it is the inverted transistor to put the batteries in series....or the SCR...inverted to put the batteries in series. Other than that, you are on your own. He also used them in cap pulsers, so this is one other place you can see how to use them.

                        Leroy
                        Last edited by ldissing; 03-21-2010, 12:01 AM.

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                        • Hi Bit's

                          I got it running. Tried a couple of different trafo's that I had laying around.

                          I can't get any charging on the battery, tried various timing settings.

                          I'm seeing about 9.2 - 9.3V over C1 when C2 is 13 - 17V. Is this what you see too? (I'm using 6,800uF 50V caps)

                          Also tried using a MJL21194 in place of the relay, still no dice.

                          Anyway, I'll play around some more when I have fitted a better trafo. I also splurged and got myself a nice 5A lab p/s, which will come in real handy.


                          John K.

                          Originally posted by Bit's-n-Bytes View Post
                          Here you go John K.

                          Main:

                          do
                          high 5
                          pause 10
                          low 5

                          high 4
                          pause 10
                          low 4
                          pause 50
                          inc b1
                          loop while b1 <100

                          let b1 = 0
                          high 6
                          pause 50
                          low 6



                          goto Main

                          To early to tell on the charging. The batt voltage did raise about .2 in about 20Min.

                          Bit's
                          http://teslagenx.com

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                          • Originally posted by nvisser
                            This is the circuit that I currently uses.
                            I changed the zener to a 16V last night to get the pulsing to once every second, pulsing 17V from the cap bank to the batteries.
                            This morning the relay contacts was stuck , but the battery banks voltage sat on 14.2V
                            So the batteries loved the pulsing but relays will not last as we were told before.
                            Now I need to get a panel ammeter to test what sort of current is passed with every pulse.
                            I want to do a easy experiment by discharging the parallel cap bank to the battery and measure the current .
                            Then I want to charge the caps up in parallel, connect them in series and measure the current pulse when discharging and vice versa to try and determine how Mr. Bedini does it.

                            Leroy
                            Is the inverted circuit on the cap pulsars that you talk about the opto , transistor, scr one's that switch the negative?
                            Last edited by nvisser; 03-21-2010, 07:16 AM.

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                            • So the batteries loved the pulsing but relays will not last as we were told before.
                              What Stuck inside? If the contact welded they are to small.
                              I haven't had to many problems with relays as long as they rate over what voltages I am using. But you get to heavy on them and they'll bight ya.

                              Matt

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                              • One of the contacts that burn close before with a different application got stuck again.
                                I can see a spark every time it switches so in the long run they will not last.

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