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Originally posted by scratchrobot View PostSo then we want that hump to last as long as possible?
On the scope shot of John Bedini's device I see a different hump, like It's more divided over time, or am I talking nonsense here
Maybe the pulse is different because he is using a DC power clamp probe.
Batt:[ATTACH]5414[/ATTACH] vs Bulp:[ATTACH]5415[/ATTACH]
scratchrobot
This is known also as dI/dt (as the current rises also) but let's not tooth pick now okay?
We want the _slope_ to be *sheer*, it's the *T* we try hard to compress here okay?
And i found out:
The shorter the climb lasts, the bigger (2x 4x) the hump follows, no matter how high the initial spark was!
we compress *TIME* here.
Stevan C.
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Originally posted by Matthew Jones View PostVissie
Whats the incoming power source. I know you said 1 amp but whats the voltage coming in? Regular 12 volt like the SSG's use?
Good work buddy, I hope you can get your testing done. I would love to see the numbers.
Cheers
Matt
As it is out of focus let me explain.
The input ammeter sits between 500 and 750mA on 20V input to the 8 transistor Joule thief coil.
The input pulse to the cap pulsar is 530mSec and the output pulse 70mSec.
The output ammeter shows 2.5A pulses.
I connected the scope over the output ammeter.
The shunt resistance is 0.01 ohm
The output pulse on the scope gives a very sharp pulse with a peak of 108mV measured over 0.01 Ohm. That is a 10.8A pulse.
The pulse on the scope levels out a bit at 80mV
The spike looks like it’s in the usec range and the complete output pulse is finished in about 70msec.
I still would love to know how JB gets that ammeter to pulse at 10A with what we think is a parallel to series cap pulsar.
YouTube - radiant ser par charger.avi
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Originally posted by StevanC View PostWe want the innitial rise of the voltage to happen as sudden as possible (deltaV/deltaT).
This is known also as dI/dt (as the current rises also) but let's not tooth pick now okay?
We want the _slope_ to be *sheer*, it's the *T* we try hard to compress here okay?
And i found out:
The shorter the climb lasts, the bigger (2x 4x) the hump follows, no matter how high the initial spark was!
we compress *TIME* here.
Stevan C.
I now understand why you wanted me to zoom in on the spike.
I will test to see if get the same results and can influence them.
To me it than seems more we are compressing an amount of energy in a smaller amount of time, not time itself
I really really appreciate you sharing all this info
scratchrobot
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I still would love to know how JB gets that ammeter to pulse at 10A with what we think is a parallel to series cap pulsar.
I might be wrong but his input amperage is higher indicating more draw on the initial power source.
As I drive this circuit with a 8 transistor Bedini sg coil
Matt
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Originally posted by Matthew Jones View PostYou might try to set 4 of them inverted so the radiant charge hits the caps on the negative. It will increase the potential in the capacitors. Or at close double the voltage in your caps. That is if higher voltage will make a difference.
Matt
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yes, Yes, YES
Originally posted by scratchrobot View Post(snip)
To me it than seems more we are compressing an amount of energy in a smaller amount of time, not time itself
(snip)
scratchrobot
You are correct:
We try as hard as possible to reduce the amount of time the rise is delivered to the load.
this reduction in the duration of time, i believe, JB (, JB any time soon back with us? ) calls "time compression" in his works?
This is how i get it ATM , so I thought it would help if I use it in this fashion here, to further help us understand his (invaluable ) works better?
Stevan C.
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Originally posted by nvisser View PostAny circuit ideas on how to do that?
The wire that is now hooked to the battery will be hooked to the collector and the wire hooked to the collector will now be hooked to the battery.
Follow me?
If its just an oscillating circuit (IE a joule thief) then the trigger should still work the same but maybe not. I haven't tried it as an oscillator only a straight monopole. With a Reed to trigger.
Both Pole Monopole
I would try to get this half running and then see what the effect is with both halves running on one coil. I am not sure how it will act. I used 2 coils with mine.
I wouldn't want to set you up for a fire or anything.
It would fill a 100v cap up, as a monopole, in about 4 seconds to 140 -150 volt easy.
Technically if you get it to work you'll be creating a scalar wave. (Tom Bearden's definition of a scalar).
Cheers
Matt
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NO a MOTOR version will not run as it is meant to push the wheel away. But A joule thief or oscillator should.
A but looking at my plan and realizing what I told ya. There is a little more to it then just switching the coil. You should be able figure it out from the schematic.
It worked really well as motor.
If you can't get it let me know I'll try to put something together from my monopole version.
Matt
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Wasn't it what Rick F has done with the north , south arrangement magnets and the seq. bipolar switch where the trigger actually change each time? The way I understood it was that the north magnet would be pushed away and the next south one attracted.
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