Use for the Tesla Switch

[nilrehob]

I have made some long-run testing of different kinds of setups.
Although I have a few tests left I would like to share three of the circuits with the forum.

1: Double Bedini-circuit
2: Half Tesla-switch

These first two are essentially the same circuit, if You arrange the components a bit that is.

3: Modular Bedini-circuit (or Tesla-switch), with any even number of batteries.

I have just tested circuit 2 and it performs well.
I would really like to make it a solid state variant with a bifilar coil and two transistors, but I haven't figured out how yet.

A motor will be fun to make of the modular Bedini (without the load) when I find the time.

[lamare]

I tried opto isolaters and a couple of things I found was 1. delay in off time was annoying, 2. Beyond a certain speed because of this delay they were useless.

The off time delay gets much shorter if you use opto-isolators that have the base of the foto-transistor available at the outside (f.e. TIL-111) and attach a 10k resistor between base and emitter....

[Xenomorph]

@nilherob,
Solid state is difficult because there is not only one-way electron flow but the radiant flow too. I have tried to make a solid state tesla switch for some time and the bidirectional flow necessitates special transistor driving and that is the hard part.

So are you actually having results in both batteries charging?

[nilrehob]

@nilherob,
Solid state is difficult because there is not only one-way electron flow but the radiant flow too. I have tried to make a solid state tesla switch for some time and the bidirectional flow necessitates special transistor driving and that is the hard part.

So are you actually having results in both batteries charging?

Right now I'm experimenting with a motor made out of this circuit:


The aim is to make a half-Tesla-switch/Siamese-twin-Bedini-circuit/kind-of-Newman-motor

The rotor has both north and south poles (but i guess it will run with only north poles as a push and pull motor).
One of the batteries is a capacitor, the switches are two ss-relays triggered by a trigger-coil as usual (but only one at the time ).
The trigger-coil and the power-coils are separate coils.
Depending on how I position the coils I can make the cap go up to above 12.5V while the bat is on 13V!
If I can make the cap to go above the bat I guess I can replace the bat with another cap...

Up to this point the motor is really easy to build as the ss-relays has the required diodes already built-in, so its only the rotor with the stacked neo's, two ss-relays, two unifilar coils, one cap, one bat and finally one variable-resistor in series with the trigger-coil to make the rise/fall as sharp as possible in the relays.

I just fried my 555 so I'm at another halt right now
I've done some calculations on coils and the 555 was supposed to replace the rather complex Newman-commutator to make the coils even more efficient.

[nilrehob]

There is a video of the hybrid-motor, now with some info:
YouTube - Tesla-switch part 5
(but without the 555)

[Matthew Jones]

Are you getting any charging in the batteries?

Matt

[nilrehob]

Are you getting any charging in the batteries?

Matt

So far, the only claim I make on my hybrid-motor, is that it's very efficient, bouncing the energy between the first bat/cap and the second cap, in spite of the fact that the rotor is badly balanced and has no proper bearing.

My plans for further testing on this circuit are:
* using a hard-disc-drive as a rotor
* have the power-coil around the rotor, like a Newman-motor
* chop-up the signal with a 555 timer and another two relays per coil to minimize the loss in the coils
* have more than one power-coil around the rotor at different angles each with its own set of relays, but sharing the same batt/cap's and timer

Any suggestions?

[Matthew Jones]

I ask because your schematic Above is just a varient of my simple motor / circiut. The only thing missing is the timing mechanism. Your just bouncing back and forth between batteries.

I can teel ya from 2.5 years of experience your not gonna see the results your looking for from it. (IE self running to primary battery charging.)

I have had more that 20 different setups the same way. The worst one cooked my batterries and gave a good bang (do to an open spark) leaving the batteries useless and in peices all over my garage. The best one performed as well as a grounded circiut.

Essentially what your pulling off the coils to send to the secondary power storage is negative energy. When it hits a cap it converts to positive and can be used again with a loss. As you've seen your caps drain and loose every time they fire.

If it was recycled directly back into your primary battery the effect emulates a ground. The negative energy hits the positive energy and disapates. And in fact the load will deplete the battery at the same rate as conventional setup with less heat in your switch-.

The only way to grab the energy and make it usefull is to charge from one battery set to another. A lead acid battery responds well to this type of energy and absorbs it for usefull work later.
Once the secondary batteries voltage has risen well above the primary you can the start shuttling energy back to the front end when the motor is off.

The most effective way I have found to ensure converted energy is to run my batteries in series both on the front and the back. IE to 12v batts in series at 24v.
When I fire the energy from the charge batts to the run batts I switch the poles of the series wiring on the batteries. Follow me...?
The helps ensure the energy coming out of the battery is released from the plates and not from the residual charge waiting to be absorbed and condesed. Thats all theory by the way. So I won't go any further on that. Being your a sceptic and all.

One more thing I can tell ya from experience is the way you are driving the coil (IE your pulse motor) you will probably only collect about 50% or so of what your putting in. If you have your coil between 2 magnets (1 magnet per pole of the coil) you can get 100% or above collected in a secondary battery.

I am getting ready to publish on my latest motor. It is a motor generator built with my circiut. When running 24volt supply the motor has a COP of about 1.2 from run battery to charge battery and the shaft produces 1 hp. When I am shuttling the energy the motor produces 1 hp on the shaft for about 10 watts of consumption.

The only reason I point that out is to outline the potential of the system if used correctly.
I have not published yet because I still gathering data and running load tests. As well as tweaking the mechanical motor itself.

Anyway I hope some of that will help. If you need anything let me know.

Matt

[nilrehob]

@Matt

I'm not sure I get it all, so here are my first two questions (please bear with me):
* is capturing the spike in a battery more efficient than capturing them in a capacitor?
* can you send me a drawing of what you mean with the magnets and the coil, the 50% vs 100%?

Another motor! Cool

[nilrehob]

Just to make sure that my intent with my circuit is clear:

* during the first half of a turn one of the batteries is driving and the other is charging
* during the other half of a turn the batteries change roles: the one that was driving is now being charged and the one that was charging is now driving

I'm using a capacitor instead of one of the batteries to make it easier to observe the efficiency.

[Matthew Jones]

is capturing the spike in a battery more efficient than capturing them in a capacitor?

Yes but in this case the spike is not what is giving you your energy. Sorry we'll have to get into questionable theory now. LOL
You turn the coil on,charge it againts an opposing magnetic feild,then turn it off you get the transient spike. Then the Negative energy flows from the enviroment into the coil. This is what you are capturing from this system.
The positive energy you put in has gone to ground. The spike has disapated from the negative energy coming in, and whats left of it (the negative) flows into the battery.
You see this on the scope. You get the rise from being turned on. Then the slope or drop to off. Next the spike, then you see the wave going into the negative portion of the screen. Usaually pretty low. Thats the negative energy flowing into the system. *See scope shot below

* can you send me a drawing of what you mean with the magnets and the coil, the 50% vs 100%?

I put my diagram from write up on my motor.

* during the first half of a turn one of the batteries is driving and the other is charging
* during the other half of a turn the batteries change roles: the one that was driving is now being charged and the one that was charging is now driving

Ya I know what your doing. I have exact same thing up somwhere else. I posted it sometime last summer, but it was mechanical schematic of the communtator.

Matt.

PS I'll be back this evening.

[nilrehob]

By positive energy You mean energy coming out of a battery and draining it, and by negative energy You mean energy going into a battery and charging it?
Positive or negative is as seen from the perspective of a particular battery, regardless of where it is going to or coming from?

[Matthew Jones]

Ya by positive I mean the energy coming from the battery. By negative I mean the energy coming from the enviroment.

Positive energy in an EM system attracts negative energy from the enviroment. Thats what charges your secondary battery. The reason I call it negative energy (And I am not alone) is because it has many effects contrary to the effects positive energy displays.

Just few are
* Positive energy makes heat. Negative energy absorbs heat.
* Positive energy disapates through resistance. Negative energy grows
ect.

It is the opposite of what is used in all EM systems that are convetional.

I feel a theoretical debat arising. LOL

Matt

[nilrehob]

Ya by positive I mean the energy coming from the battery. By negative I mean the energy coming from the enviroment.

Positive energy in an EM system attracts negative energy from the enviroment. Thats what charges your secondary battery. The reason I call it negative energy (And I am not alone) is because it has many effects contrary to the effects positive energy displays.

Just few are
* Positive energy makes heat. Negative energy absorbs heat.
* Positive energy disapates through resistance. Negative energy grows
ect.

It is the opposite of what is used in all EM systems that are convetional.

I feel a theoretical debat arising. LOL

Matt

Oh no, no debate please!
I'm just eager to learn how the words are being used, what they mean in this context.

[nilrehob]

Matt, I have more questions on Your new motor, but maybe the motor deserves a thread of its own?