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  • Coil Setup posible COP over 1 ?

    Hi folks my next setup is on picture

    setup is :
    C1: 330uF 200V
    C2: 330uF 200V
    C3: 480uF 200V

    Coil is from bedini coil i use only power wire ,, triger is fully unpluged
    coil hat 850 turns awg 26 ..
    you can use transformer secondary or primary winding ...

    Start test :
    C1 charging at 25V from 2x12 bateries
    C2 hat 0 volts
    C2 hat 0 volts

    Switch on short time
    end test
    C1 hat 12V
    C2 hat 11V
    C3 hat 6V

    C1+C2+C3
    start 25+0+0=25V at 330uf
    end 12+11+6=29V

    "i think"
    when switch ON C1 charging C2 creating magnetic field on coil
    when C2 is charged magnetic field colabsing that create spike and charge
    C3
    + energy is .. captured radiant energy ?

    im inspired on this circuit
    free energy demostration, free energy experiment - YouTube

    pls im newbie maybee is fully mistake ..hmm
    mee english is so bad sorry ..
    Attached Files

  • #2
    Hi Powers, interesting experiment. I use a program called
    Electronics Assistant. link below, with it the charge in a capacitor can be
    determined. (If installing uncheck all options for new toolbars and stuff) if you
    don't want them.

    Download Electronics Assistant 4.2 Free - An aplication that performs electronics-related calculations - Softpedia

    It tells me you start with 25v in a 330 uf cap C1 = 103.125 millijoules.
    Then after you end up with
    12v in C1 = 23.760 millijoules.
    11v in C2 = 19.965 millijoules.
    6v in C3 = 8.640 millijoules.
    total = 52.365 millijoules.

    millioules left = 52.365 / 103.125 millijoules started with
    C.O.P= 50.778 %

    Strange how it works out but as the voltage in a cap gets higher there is a
    non linear amount of charge stored kind of thing. 6v in a cap is not
    necessarily half the amount of charge as 12 volts in the same cap.

    Cheers
    Last edited by Farmhand; 05-08-2012, 04:17 AM.

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    • #3
      Originally posted by Farmhand View Post
      Hi Powers, interesting experiment. I use a program called
      Electronics Assistant. link below, with it the charge in a capacitor can be
      determined. (If installing uncheck all options for new toolbars and stuff) if you
      don't want them.

      Download Electronics Assistant 4.2 Free - An aplication that performs electronics-related calculations - Softpedia

      It tells me you start with 25v in a 330 uf cap C1 = 103.125 millijoules.
      Then after you end up with
      12v in C1 = 23.760 millijoules.
      11v in C2 = 19.965 millijoules.
      6v in C4 = 8.640 millijoules.
      total = 52.365 millijoules.

      millioules left = 52.365 / 103.125 millijoules started with
      C.O.P= 50.778 %

      Strange how it works out but as the voltage in a cap gets higher there is a
      non linear amount of charge stored kind of thing. 6v in a cap is not
      necessarily half the amount of charge as 12 volts in the same cap.

      Cheers
      Farmhand is quite right, E = .5c*v^2 or energy equals one half capacitance times voltage squared.

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      • #4
        Funny anyway how it looks in a Simulator.
        Circuit
        Click on both switch at top to charge the Cap, then open both to isolate the power source from the rest from the circuit. Then click the Switch below.
        Values can be changed by rightclicking the corresponding Symbol.

        Another Circuit what shows the inductive Effect.
        Inductor
        Inductors in Parallel
        (Click the Switches )
        Last edited by Joit; 05-08-2012, 12:00 AM.
        Theorizer are like High Voltage. A lot hot Air with no Power behind but they are the dead of applied Work and Ideas.

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        • #5
          Indeed you are on good track

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          • #6
            You've lost some energy in the process, but gain charges. There is a way to turn those charges into higher energy. I believe it's call resonance. I made a circuit with falstad to show how you can add these energy. Hope the link works.

            Circuit Simulator Applet

            Yay, it works. Thanks Joit, this is a gift from God.

            Adjust the speed to slow it down or speed it up. Close the right switch at the right time to make the oscillation larger. This certain right time is crucial and determine how much energy you get for your charges.
            Last edited by quantumuppercut; 05-08-2012, 01:36 PM.

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            • #7
              Thanks folks im get back to ground school ..

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              • #8
                Originally posted by quantumuppercut View Post
                You've lost some energy in the process, but gain charges. There is a way to turn those charges into higher energy. I believe it's call resonance. I made a circuit with falstad to show how you can add these energy. Hope the link works.

                Circuit Simulator Applet

                Yay, it works. Thanks Joit, this is a gift from God.

                Adjust the speed to slow it down or speed it up. Close the right switch at the right time to make the oscillation larger. This certain right time is crucial and determine how much energy you get for your charges.

                A Gift from god and Paul Falstad . I wish more Simulators would been made like this one, and probatly use the same basics, because it seems like its not bloated with useless codes.
                I only have a very hard time to get it running with Linux. Either i may can try it to run it with reqong and allow Clipboard access at the Options or modify the java.policy file.
                Else its may handy, when we post the code here to, because copy/past, or a link gets not really converted (need to remove all + signs at the Link).
                Your Link did work for me, kinda impressive anyway, and the simulations from this Applets all did work for me so far, it was more like, that my osc gave me wrong readings.
                Theorizer are like High Voltage. A lot hot Air with no Power behind but they are the dead of applied Work and Ideas.

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