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  • #31
    Originally posted by xee2 View Post
    Hi woopy,

    I am a big fan of your work.

    Here are some text book style answers to your questions. The "cold electricity" is actually RF frequency AC. When you have sinusoidal AC the voltage is half the time positive and half the time negative. On a scope you can see this, but on a voltmeter the positive and negative parts cancel each other out. So the meter reads zero (because the meter can not respond fast enough to show the changing voltage). The current is also half of the time going one way and the other half going the other way which causes a DC amp meter to read zero since the needle can not go back and forth as fast as the current so it just stays put. This will also cause a compass held near wire to not be effected by the AC current since again the needle can not go back and forth as fast as the current changes. The wire around the battery is the secondary of a transformer with the primary being the current flow in the battery. Current is flowing out of the battery at RF frequency. Putting a capacitor across the battery will reduce this RF current flow in the battery. Note that in many circuits high voltage spikes are being fed back into the battery which can be capacitively coupled to a plate. As the frequency of the AC increases the current flows more and more along the surface of the conductor (including you). At RF frequencies the current is only hundredths of an inch deep and not as deep as the nerves in your skin. That is why you do not feel a shock from RF current. However, if the current is strong enough it will burn your skin (called RF burns).
    Thanks for explaining 'cold electricity' it is indeed RF frequency AC and explains all the magic

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    • #32
      Originally posted by Guruji View Post
      Wow you managed to bend the top of the cap?!!!! Mine I made a cut and had to do silicone. Maybe I will try to bend it open next time as you've did.
      Thanks for sharing.
      Next time i will try a simple can opener

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      • #33
        Originally posted by woopy View Post
        OK Boguslaw

        here is probably what you wanted to see

        good luck

        Laurent

        charging by induction approach 3.wmv - YouTube
        Thanks woopy, i love your experiments, keep up the good work

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        • #34
          Finally got the time to draw the circuit i used in my experiments, i don't know if it is any better than the simple version of the kacher presented here but i had a lot of fun with it.

          kacher.pdf

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          • #35
            Kacher

            Scratchrobot does this Kacher charge source battery or it's like a bedini motor?
            Thanks

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            • #36
              Originally posted by Guruji View Post
              Scratchrobot does this Kacher charge source battery or it's like a bedini motor?
              Thanks
              No this is just the driver circuit. With this circuit I did al the experiments i show on my youtube channel.
              I never tried to charge a battery and there are no magnets but many circuit's on this forum are similar indeed.

              I like this circuit allot and i am planning to make the 555 part variable so i can change frequency. But the antenna is also very nice to get things in resonance. If you look at the end of this video you see you can also get streamers from the antenna and circuit keeps working fine.

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              • #37
                Originally posted by scratchrobot View Post
                Finally got the time to draw the circuit i used in my experiments, i don't know if it is any better than the simple version of the kacher presented here but i had a lot of fun with it.

                [ATTACH]11240[/ATTACH]
                Very nice circuit. It seems to work well. Thanks for posting. Have you tried putting a series capacitor on the antenna input so that only AC is coupled in? Then you could touch the antenna to surfaces that have a DC voltage. Not needed if you always keep an air gap between antenna and the surface.
                Last edited by xee2; 05-29-2012, 03:09 PM.

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                • #38
                  Originally posted by xee2 View Post
                  Very nice circuit. It seems to work well. Thanks for posting. Have you tried putting a series capacitor on the antenna input so that only AC is coupled in? Then you could touch the antenna to surfaces that have a DC voltage. Not needed if you always keep an air gap between antenna and the surface.
                  No I did not try that, i will try that thanks.

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                  • #39
                    @ woopy

                    After looking at your induction video with wire around battery again, I do not think I was correct when I said it was acting like secondary of transformer. The current in the battery is not flowing in proper direction and there are not enough turns to get over 350 volts. Rather, it seems to be just another way of making a capacitor plate. You certainly do come up with some very interesting circuits. Thanks again for sharing your results.

                    You could check the capacitor coupling theory by replacing the wire around the battery with a capacitor (maybe 1 uF) connected to the negative or positive terminal of battery (whichever forms the outer case of the battery).
                    Last edited by xee2; 05-30-2012, 05:32 AM.

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                    • #40
                      Hi Xee2

                      that's a very constructiv proposal

                      so i used my second (not coil wrapped ) battery as power supply , and i connected one lead from a Micro wave owen HV cap (MOcap ) in place of the wrapping, with a connection to the negativ of the battery, and from the other lead , i connected a wire to the " captret" of the " cap avramenko- to car coil.

                      and it works very well

                      in a first time i placed the MOcap against (in contact ) the battery, but than i noticed that i can separate the cap from the battery with even better results.

                      But further more i got even better results when i connect the neg of the battery to one of the MO cap and connect the CAPTRET of this cap to the other ( Avramenko MOcap to car coil )'s captret.

                      By writing this post i understand why it is very much easier to produce a video with explanation than explain with 100 words

                      Sorry it's too late for making a video

                      will do it as soon as possible
                      .


                      Thank's

                      Laurent

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                      • #41
                        @ woopy

                        EDIT: You should be able to see the AC on battery terminal using scope set to AC input (or use series capacitor). Caution, will be at least several hundred volts. Ground scope to the earth ground.

                        Last edited by xee2; 05-31-2012, 05:34 PM.

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                        • #42
                          @scratchrobot,
                          thanks for publishing your mosfet kacher circuit. So far I only managed to set up 'one transistor oscillators', simple circuits like in woopy's videos.
                          Your circuit with the mosfet driver seems to be more advanced and more difficult to build (i.e. it has more components and connections). But tempting ....

                          What is the purpose of the 1nF 3kV cap across the source and drain of the mosfet? How did you determine that it is needed?

                          @woopy,
                          I am also experimenting with charging a microwave oven capacitor in "captret style", i.e. using the capacitor's case as a third plate.
                          The cap still has its resistor inside and I manage to charge it quickly to more than 500 V. Nevertheless, it is almost impossible to make a spark jump to the other cap electrode/plate, even when the spark gap is set very narrow.
                          Is this the same for you ?
                          And is this why you use the Epcos surge arrestor? Does the spark jump more easily when using the Epcos?
                          Or can you also get a reliable spark using an ordinary spark gap instead of the Epcos?

                          Looking forward to your next video, exploring xee2's proposals.
                          Last edited by marxist; 05-31-2012, 07:48 AM.

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                            • #44
                              Finally after baking one MJE13009 transistor trying to run kacher from 230->30V transformer I managed to run it using MJE13007 transistor from 12V 7Ah battery.
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                              Now the second issue is : can I interrupt the kacher output at chosen frequency , like 50Hz for example ? can somebody help ?

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                              • #45
                                Originally posted by boguslaw View Post
                                Now the second issue is : can I interrupt the kacher output at chosen frequency , like 50Hz for example ? can somebody help ?
                                The upper frequency limit is set by coil self resonant frequency. To lower frequency put capacitor in parallel with either coil. If transistor is not fast enough it can limit frequency also. MJE13007 should work up to several MHz.

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