Symmetric versus Asymmetric Electromagnetic Systems

[lamare]

Coil reverses (by grace of Natural response) its polarity (magnetic and electrical) when "left alone", idling, not "injecting" a purposely reversed electrical flow(Symmetry)

That is not correct, Ufo.

The magnetic field is a rotational movement in/of the aether. What happens when you drive a current trough a coil is that the current runs around in circles, creating a vortex in/of the aether, which is what we call a magnetic field. This is very, very much like spinning a flying wheel.

Now imagine taking a piece of rope and attack that to the side of a flying wheel. When you pull the rope round the flying wheel starts rotating. As long as you keep pulling and pulling round and round, you pull the rope and the flying wheel starts spinning faster and faster.

The moment you stop moving your hand, the flying wheel continues spinning and will pull at the rope. It will drag your hand along. IN THE SAME DIRECTION.

In other words: the direction of the force on the rope changes polarity. It changes from your hand pulling the flying wheel to the flying wheel pulling your hand.

With a coil, the same principle applies. The magnetic field does NOT change polarity and the current trough the coil winding also continues in the same direction. What does change is that the coil, instead of "sucking" current from your battery starts "pushing" the current to the load.

And that means that the *voltage* changes polarity, but the magnetic field does not.

[codeboundfuture]

Rotating magnetic fields, current tech motors.

Hi lamare!

The rotating magnetic field we refer to when talking about these motors is just the alternation of poles to -emulate- a smooth rotation in the scale of interaction we are working with.

Check out Wikipedia - Rotating Magnetic Field for a visual.

With time we will do it better, more like you mention.

Best wishes,
matt

[JumpingFlea]

Hi Ufo
Just watched your Asymmetry to enlightenment video
Very impressive
A question ,
how is the witches c emf value calculated as in 12.1 -9.1volts ?
Cheers
Flea

[Ufopolitics]

Watch...

Hi Ufo
Just watched your Asymmetry to enlightenment video
Very impressive
A question ,
how is the witches c emf value calculated as in 12.1 -9.1volts ?
Cheers
Flea

Hello Jumping Flea,

Thanks.

Watch:Peter Lindemann -- Electric Motor Secrets - YouTube

All My Data is Based from Mr. Lindemann's Video...above.

Regards


UFO

[Ufopolitics]

Good morning Dear Lamare

Hi lamare!

The rotating magnetic field we refer to when talking about these motors is just the alternation of poles to -emulate- a smooth rotation in the scale of interaction we are working with.

Check out Wikipedia - Rotating Magnetic Field for a visual.

With time we will do it better, more like you mention.

Best wishes,
matt

G Day Lamare,

The Main problem We all have been "miss-informed" about...

Is a Real Fact...That I have proven all along...and I will keep doing it...

There is "An Artificial Magnetic Field", created by Our Means...and that is the one shown, and "visible"...
It is a huge mistake to "believe" they are both "The Same Phenomena"...that is not correct...

There is "Another One"...Completely Natural, and Completely Different in Manifestations and Laws...just like Gas exist deep inside our Earth , but as an Inexhaustible Source of Power... this Natural Magnetic Field/Electricity, exist and have existed everywhere, not only in our Planet...but in the whole Universe...and is Free...

"All We need to do, in order to capture it"...is a very simple "device"....just like an Igniter, triggers and Flames out a Natural Gas flow , leaking from an Earth Crack...

Then We turn Off...our Igniter...We got Fire...


Regards


U.F.O

[JJUK]

Assymetry to Enlightenment

Hi UFO,

I have a question about the pulsed solid state circuit in your 'Asymmetry to Enlightenment' video. Is this he correct thread to be discussing these ideas or are all your projects being dealt with through the 'My Asymmetric Electrodynamic Machines' thread now?

Thanks!

JJUK

[Ufopolitics]

It is Ok Dear JJUK...

Hi UFO,

I have a question about the pulsed solid state circuit in your 'Asymmetry to Enlightenment' video. Is this he correct thread to be discussing these ideas or are all your projects being dealt with through the 'My Asymmetric Electrodynamic Machines' thread now?

Thanks!

JJUK

Hello Dear JJUK,

It is Ok here...or in the thread related to Oscillators and Static Coils...My First one...However, I will not be "picky" about it...

This Thread I open it before My Machines...it relates basically to the "Politics" behind this Mutilation to Science...as also to bring here any Symmetry or Asymmetry differences or discussions...

However, I think what your question would be...The signal is wrong at pulsing Mosfet...N-Channel...right?...Yes it is...it should be pulsing at Upper side of square wave...a little twist of the whole animated Wave and light...will have made it correctly...
I did that video in such a hurry...to make it before 12:00 Midnight of July 10 Th...Tesla's Birthday...I barely made it by a few seconds...lol

Regards


Ufopolitics

[JJUK]

Saturation and the Reservoir

Hi UFO,

I went away for the weekend and have spent a whole morning reading the motors thread just to catch up. It's great to see such an enthusiastic embrace of your ideas but there's just so much info to keep abreast of. How you find time to do it I really don't know. (I've got to force myself to do some work this afternoon so that my family doesn't starve!).

Hello Dear JJUK,
However, I think what your question would be...The signal is wrong at pulsing Mosfet...N-Channel...right?...Yes it is...it should be pulsing at Upper side of square wave...a little twist of the whole animated Wave and light...will have made it correctly...

I didn't actually spot that mistake I have to confess! I was busy looking at the big picture more than the detail. The question that I have may well expose my ignorance but having had the weekend to mull it over and still not having been able to come up with an answer I thought I'd better stick my head above the parapet and satisfy my curiosity.

The answer that you gave adilu on the motors forum talked about the Push-Pull action when a coil is pulsed and convinced me that I had understood the basics of the principle that you have described. But what I am not sure of is what limits the quantity of radiant energy that a coil can capture when in its "Negative Induction" phase. Is it merely when the coil reaches saturation? If so, when building a solid state device I am assuming that the timer should be adjusted or tuned so that each new pulse occurs at the point at which the coil reaches saturation. And does the pulse duration have an effect on the duration of Negative Induction and thus radiant energy capture? Is it better to saturate the coil with the pulse or not?

With this in mind but taking the concept a step further, is it possible to tap the coil when it is in its Negative Induction phase so that saturation is never reached and the coil continues to pull in radiant energy. In this fashion the pulse is merely acting to prime the system. In my mind I envisage the process to be akin to siphoning a reservoir (radiant energy) with a hose (coil) into a bucket. The hose is primed once and then the water will continue to flow indefinitely whilst there is water remaining in the reservoir and the hose remains below the waterline of the reservoir and not in the bucket. If you were to put a float on the end of the hose and then put the hose in a bucket with its rim above the waterline then the flow would stop once the bucket had filled (coil saturation). In order to restart the flow the bucket has to be drained and the hose re-primed (pulsed). However, if the bucket has a hole in the bottom of a size such that the water flows out of the bucket (something is now draining energy from the coil) as quickly as it enters then the water will continue to flow until the reservoir falls below the level of the bottom of the bucket. I am working on the assumption that the reservoir is being topped up by streams etc at a rate equal to or greater than the rate at which it is being siphoned. Otherwise we're all in trouble!

I could of course be making a fool of myself. Regardless, I would value your opinion.



JJUK

[Ufopolitics]

Great question...

Hi UFO,

I went away for the weekend and have spent a whole morning reading the motors thread just to catch up. It's great to see such an enthusiastic embrace of your ideas but there's just so much info to keep abreast of. How you find time to do it I really don't know. (I've got to force myself to do some work this afternoon so that my family doesn't starve!).



I didn't actually spot that mistake I have to confess! I was busy looking at the big picture more than the detail. The question that I have may well expose my ignorance but having had the weekend to mull it over and still not having been able to come up with an answer I thought I'd better stick my head above the parapet and satisfy my curiosity.

The answer that you gave adilu on the motors forum talked about the Push-Pull action when a coil is pulsed and convinced me that I had understood the basics of the principle that you have described. But what I am not sure of is what limits the quantity of radiant energy that a coil can capture when in its "Negative Induction" phase. Is it merely when the coil reaches saturation? If so, when building a solid state device I am assuming that the timer should be adjusted or tuned so that each new pulse occurs at the point at which the coil reaches saturation. And does the pulse duration have an effect on the duration of Negative Induction and thus radiant energy capture? Is it better to saturate the coil with the pulse or not?

With this in mind but taking the concept a step further, is it possible to tap the coil when it is in its Negative Induction phase so that saturation is never reached and the coil continues to pull in radiant energy. In this fashion the pulse is merely acting to prime the system. In my mind I envisage the process to be akin to siphoning a reservoir (radiant energy) with a hose (coil) into a bucket. The hose is primed once and then the water will continue to flow indefinitely whilst there is water remaining in the reservoir and the hose remains below the waterline of the reservoir and not in the bucket. If you were to put a float on the end of the hose and then put the hose in a bucket with its rim above the waterline then the flow would stop once the bucket had filled (coil saturation). In order to restart the flow the bucket has to be drained and the hose re-primed (pulsed). However, if the bucket has a hole in the bottom of a size such that the water flows out of the bucket (something is now draining energy from the coil) as quickly as it enters then the water will continue to flow until the reservoir falls below the level of the bottom of the bucket. I am working on the assumption that the reservoir is being topped up by streams etc at a rate equal to or greater than the rate at which it is being siphoned. Otherwise we're all in trouble!

I could of course be making a fool of myself. Regardless, I would value your opinion.



JJUK

Hello JJUK!

Well a great question there...the examples are awesome...I love the "Bucket" idea!...

The way I have interpreted as per my experience and tests...I will try my best to explain it...so please be "open minded"...
The way Radiant Field gets excited...is not through our Electrical Field at all, so looking from electronic flow end, will not help to understand this phenomena at all...but on the contrary...will make it more difficult to "digest"...
Radiant Field gets excited through our Generated Magnetic Field into open space. Now the means of making that happen from our end, is obvious we need electronic flow in coil...as Amps and Voltages...but what defines the "Incoming Reversed Radiant Field" is our Huge Magnetic Pulse out...then at the point we collapse our magnetic field drastically at zero time, zero electrical values...Radiant drives in at a faster rate, at a faster frequency and intensity. RE enters at our Times Off, looking at our Square Wave...From here I have tested playing with the duty cycle and Frequency...as with voltage intensity...and there are certain points when she enters constant and robust...and other that does not occur the same, so I have to increase, scale up my magnetic field strength to achieve same parameters...As I have observed many other effects that affect "Her" to increase or decrease...like certain types of Light Spectrum...basically Ultra Violet rays...

The Final frontier to make it "usable" is to store the Radiant Energy in High Frequency Capacitors...then process back to Hot side...it is not "usable" to run our equipment as is in Her "Original State"...
Another great advantage is Her capacity to induce "negatively" through air, without any loss...through Isolated and Non Isolated Secondaries...We could create as many "branches"(outputs) as we want with just One Coil Pulsing...and that is awesome.

Now you have mentioned something very interesting, and reminded me I have to disclose that...as to finish those videos and diagrams...and it relates exactly to what you are "conceiving" it could be done...and incredibly you are very right...I will explain....
There is a type of connection, a very simple one...that we have to make between Diodes Oscillator and Coil...and basically is just one single wire...I call it "Enhanced Mode"...when I do that, Radiant Enters super strong at first shot...first pulses...but once I have it On, for a small period of time...I can physically disconnect the negative pulses from oscillator...and Radiant will stay...however, and exactly like you have said...if we pull too much load...she will simply go...disappear...that we have to "re-dial" to get her back again...


Hope this explain-answered, somewhere near your questions.


Regards


Ufopolitics

[ampsvolts]

The Beardon Free Energy Collector

Excellent Post 159 JJUK And UFO Guru

Maybe of interest.. The Beardon Free Energy Collector as shown on the Naudin site http://jnaudin.free.fr/images/tbfnrganm.gif ..( and The Bearden Free Energy Collector for explanation) Can this be of use here?

Cheers
AV


Maybe not

[JJUK]

In Response...

Thank you very much for your considered reply UFO. I've been away again for a few days which is why I was unable to post a response sooner. (Just wanted to make sure that you realised I hadn't been ignoring your efforts!) I have some more questions but need to mull them over before I push them out for public consumption. Looking forward to reading the next stage of your disclosure that you mentioned in your reply.

JJUK

[JJUK]

Bearden Free Energy Collector

Maybe of interest.. The Beardon Free Energy Collector as shown on the Naudin site http://jnaudin.free.fr/images/tbfnrganm.gif ..( and The Bearden Free Energy Collector for explanation) Can this be of use here?

Hi AV,

Thanks for the link. I think I see why you've posted it. The 'Bearden Free Energy Collector' is not something that I was previously familiar with. Something else to read up on and try to understand...

JJUK

[ampsvolts]

Beardon Free Energy Collector

You are welcome JJUK,
Basically put, - Beardon's "dont kill the dipole" statement, is reflected by the Naudin schematic in as much as connection is broken before current can flow.
As I understand it, the idea is to only use potential to fill the cap.... - free energy
It would be nice to find a full working circuit that does this.

Ramp generator schematics can bee seen at Ramp Generator Circuit | Electronic Circuit Directory
Kind Regards
AV

[phrao]

A combo Joe cell with an Assymetric motor

Hello JJUK!

Well a great question there...the examples are awesome...I love the "Bucket" idea!...

The way I have interpreted as per my experience and tests...I will try my best to explain it...so please be "open minded"...
The way Radiant Field gets excited...is not through our Electrical Field at all, so looking from electronic flow end, will not help to understand this phenomena at all...but on the contrary...will make it more difficult to "digest"...
Radiant Field gets excited through our Generated Magnetic Field into open space. Now the means of making that happen from our end, is obvious we need electronic flow in coil...as Amps and Voltages...but what defines the "Incoming Reversed Radiant Field" is our Huge Magnetic Pulse out...then at the point we collapse our magnetic field drastically at zero time, zero electrical values...Radiant drives in at a faster rate, at a faster frequency and intensity. RE enters at our Times Off, looking at our Square Wave...From here I have tested playing with the duty cycle and Frequency...as with voltage intensity...and there are certain points when she enters constant and robust...and other that does not occur the same, so I have to increase, scale up my magnetic field strength to achieve same parameters...As I have observed many other effects that affect "Her" to increase or decrease...like certain types of Light Spectrum...basically Ultra Violet rays...

The Final frontier to make it "usable" is to store the Radiant Energy in High Frequency Capacitors...then process back to Hot side...it is not "usable" to run our equipment as is in Her "Original State"...
Another great advantage is Her capacity to induce "negatively" through air, without any loss...through Isolated and Non Isolated Secondaries...We could create as many "branches"(outputs) as we want with just One Coil Pulsing...and that is awesome.

Now you have mentioned something very interesting, and reminded me I have to disclose that...as to finish those videos and diagrams...and it relates exactly to what you are "conceiving" it could be done...and incredibly you are very right...I will explain....
There is a type of connection, a very simple one...that we have to make between Diodes Oscillator and Coil...and basically is just one single wire...I call it "Enhanced Mode"...when I do that, Radiant Enters super strong at first shot...first pulses...but once I have it On, for a small period of time...I can physically disconnect the negative pulses from oscillator...and Radiant will stay...however, and exactly like you have said...if we pull too much load...she will simply go...disappear...that we have to "re-dial" to get her back again...


Hope this explain-answered, somewhere near your questions.


Regards


Ufopolitics

I was wondering about the bucket idea and the aether flow. I was thinking about a joe cell. It sounds like a Joe cell, where you charge the cell for a short time then let it sit. It gains a charge over time. Maybe we can put one of your motors into the middle of the water of a joe cell to get a continuous flow. Or pipe the joe cell to the UFO motor just like they do under the hood of a car but not touch the UFO motor. You could start the UFO motor as per usual , then reduce it down to pulses untill the aether lets over. then completely. For one day in the future.

Anyhow, i haven't had time to make a motor as yet. Painting, landscaping, renavating and the new baby within the next 6weeks. I like the new pentagon design. I would like to do that instead of the V shape in the hobby motor.

john

[promt]

Respect again, Turion; for desire to find the Truth (and as we see it's pretty expensive way).

By hearing can tell the motor's overloaded, and does not have run-out time, it's obviously stressed (I see the same on my rewinded ones).
If you look at the standard, industrial DC brushed motor and make a winding diagram of it you will see a very smart pattern - here's two of my motors (attach), 10 poles 12V 8A two stator's magnets and TWO (!!) electromagnets creating by winding (in fact it's one single wire of armature connected to each commutator's bar and giving maximum torque at ANY given time and armature position), and in fact it's one magnet and one electromagnet trying to align to each other with a great force (four or six magnets requiring four or six em-magnets accordingly for max torque).

And from other hand look at any rewinding diagram, it's always only part of electromagnet creating a force, only ONE pair at the time, it simply can't create a bigger torque; that's why the same set of brushes allowing to use unused coils for generation (and with Lenz counter-emf of course - just put a real load on it, not CFL). And don't mention twice more wires used in re-winded motor.

So, hope somebody else get a guts to show comparability of two same motors with the SAME amount and gauge of wire and with at least input readings of both.