What device did I dream of?

[Dingus]

Around this time yesterday, I had a strange mental-image pop into my head that I haven't been able to find the source of. I don't remember it perfectly, but I thought of two permanent bar magnets touching north-to-south & south-to-north, with a toroidal coil in between the two. (looking like the Green Lantern logo) I don't remember if the bar magnets themselves had coils wound around them or not, but I'm pretty sure pulsed DC was fed into the torus.

After that I had an idea for a motor, again using a toroidal coil, but with a rotor design I couldn't quite put my finger on. Again, two (possibly more) bar magnets, this time north-to-north OR south-to-south as to form a false-tripole.

Attached are two drawings I quickly scraped-together from google image results to help visualize what I'm trying to describe. If any of this rings a bell, please tell.

[Dingus]

In case anybody's interested, I think the device I was reminded of was probably Hans Coler's Coil.

[mbrownn]

Around this time yesterday, I had a strange mental-image pop into my head that I haven't been able to find the source of. I don't remember it perfectly, but I thought of two permanent bar magnets touching north-to-south & south-to-north, with a toroidal coil in between the two. (looking like the Green Lantern logo) I don't remember if the bar magnets themselves had coils wound around them or not, but I'm pretty sure pulsed DC was fed into the torus.

After that I had an idea for a motor, again using a toroidal coil, but with a rotor design I couldn't quite put my finger on. Again, two (possibly more) bar magnets, this time north-to-north OR south-to-south as to form a false-tripole.

Attached are two drawings I quickly scraped-together from google image results to help visualize what I'm trying to describe. If any of this rings a bell, please tell.

To me your drawings remind me of two possibilities

Directory:Joseph Flynn's Parallel Path technology - PESWiki

The Tom Bearden Website

[Slider2732]

I'll bet it's got to be bugging you whether it works or not Dingus

Couple of questions -
Was the device working in the imagery ?
Did all parts seem to be present ?
Did it look 'doable' with your present knowledge, to the point of showing us your build of it ?
Was it a useful device as it was, or part of something bigger (perhaps shown as shadowy mass not quite in focus) and you focused on what seemed to be the important section ?

or:
Perhaps it can be considered just like a regular dream, with hidden messages etc.
One area to look at is what you are working on at the moment. Did it answer anything, spur you on with a similar interest or show a vastly different route to your usual experiments ?
Could it have been a push, where you've thought about building for a long while but family and finances etc have seemed to get in the way for a long time ?

Umm yeah, this stuff fascinates me, especially if it turns out to be a usable device within your research

[SilverToGold]

Looks to me like Naudin's 2SGen. It is feed with pulse DC.



The permanent magnets are replaced by electromagnets perhaps in your dream.

[wrtner]

...or possibly the Stefan Marinov "Phi motor".

[Dingus]

I've seen Naudin's 2SGen & the Phi motor before, but I'm fairly certain this is different. Not sure what to think of Flynn's device, but I did think it might be similar to the MEG. I was too 'awake' at the time, so the entire second part seemd like an after-thought. I know there was something that could go in the middle, but I'm not sure what. I do however think it's a moving part.

I'll bet it's got to be bugging you whether it works or not Dingus

To no end. Not even sure what it's supposed to be. Is it another Kromrey-like converter, or OU, or just a pointlessly inefficient dc motor?

Was the device working in the imagery ?

Yes

Did all parts seem to be present ?

For the most part. Little more than a battery or motor might have been left out.

Did it look 'doable' with your present knowledge, to the point of showing us your build of it ?

Uh, It's about as easy as I made the diagrams look. It's just a toroidal coil with 2 or more permanent magnets around it that may or may not have coils around them. It's very simple, I just can't make it with my current financial situation.

Was it a useful device as it was, or part of something bigger (perhaps shown as shadowy mass not quite in focus) and you focused on what seemed to be the important section ?

That's pretty much all I can remember. If there was anything more to it, I don't remember it at all.

Perhaps it can be considered just like a regular dream, with hidden messages etc.
One area to look at is what you are working on at the moment. Did it answer anything, spur you on with a similar interest or show a vastly different route to your usual experiments ?
Could it have been a push, where you've thought about building for a long while but family and finances etc have seemed to get in the way for a long time ?

Being unemployed hasn't helped, but I haven't actually tried doing experiments in years. If somebody else tries to make it, then i'm glad. It's comforting to know that at least I told people, rather than leaving it on a to-do list forever.

Umm yeah, this stuff fascinates me, especially if it turns out to be a usable device within your research

I know the feeling. I always love hearing about how people come up with things from dreams. In a way I know that makes me somewhat biased. This idea might just be little more than by brain jumbling together random parts & I might be interpreting it as an epiphany because that's what I'd want it to be, but I can't be sure.

[MonsieurM]

Around this time yesterday, I had a strange mental-image pop into my head that I haven't been able to find the source of. I don't remember it perfectly, but I thought of two permanent bar magnets touching north-to-south & south-to-north, with a toroidal coil in between the two. (looking like the Green Lantern logo) I don't remember if the bar magnets themselves had coils wound around them or not, but I'm pretty sure pulsed DC was fed into the torus.

After that I had an idea for a motor, again using a toroidal coil, but with a rotor design I couldn't quite put my finger on. Again, two (possibly more) bar magnets, this time north-to-north OR south-to-south as to form a false-tripole.

Attached are two drawings I quickly scraped-together from google image results to help visualize what I'm trying to describe. If any of this rings a bell, please tell.

here a vid of one of the properties of a Rodin coil :

Marko Rodin Permanent Monopole Magent (biased Poles) - YouTube

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two permanent bar magnets touching north-to-south & south-to-north,

hope it helps

[Slider2732]

I know there was something that could go in the middle, but I'm not sure what. I do however think it's a moving part.

So, what happens if you get the 2SGen (or use a Rodin coil as MonsieurM just posted) and spin the magnets on a motor shaft ?
Is it going to be nothing ?
Sure, the end points magnetic flux's should stay where they are, but the rotating magnets will interact with the coil magnetics.
Imagine a generator on the end of the motor shaft and that the spin rate is matched resonantly to the coil pulse frequency.
If the magnetic interactions create a situation of less power needed to keep torque and rotation rate constant, then the output to the generator may see that generator supplying enough power to feed back to the drive motor and a little more.
Well, it's an idea

I'm just wondering if the lack of clarity of the mid section is because the magnets were in motion.

[Ufopolitics]

Great image Dingus!!

Hello Dingus and all,


The Toroid brings along a great attribute, it does not project a direct outward magnetic field, but, within its embodiment, this fact allows Us to use it as Generating Fields in any given Generator set-up, without creating the magnetic drag a Coil facing the Stator would.

If you take a look at some of Nikola Tesla Generators patents, back from the 1800's...you will see there many toroid volumes as the generating fields...and even transformers.

However, our physics have declared Tesla's Patents "obsolete"...

Would it be a "coincidence" they were all Asymmetrical...?

Regards to all

Ufopolitics

[MonsieurM]

here a vid of one of the properties of a Rodin coil :

Marko Rodin Permanent Monopole Magent (biased Poles) - YouTube

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two permanent bar magnets touching north-to-south & south-to-north,

hope it helps

just for inspiration's sake Dingus



and as Ufopolitics said

Would it be a "coincidence" they were all Asymmetrical...?

[doobie]

hey Dingus,

Id be disapointed if it werent called the "Dingusator"

peace

[Dingus]

That's a terrible name!

just for inspiration's sake Dingus

http://i1206.photobucket.com/albums/...eurM/369-1.gif

I don't understand what this is supposed to be.

[Dingus]

I was reading something recently (I can't remember what) & it mentioned an old invention called the bookwheel I'm not entirely sure why, but I was reminded of this dream & I ended up reinterpreting what I dreamed of. Instead of a toroidal inductor, there's a ring of permanent magnets all aligned facing the same direction, even as the ring rotates. As each magnet reaches either side of the wheel it's accelerated by a V-track/Tri-force gate or similar. The gearing is simple enough, but the friction would waste a lot of energy. The other drawing could be reinterpreted as half of a v-track in the middle spinning around (or being spun by) the same ring of magnets.

I'd think that the more square magnets formed into a circle, the better the effect would be. (but the more difficult the gearing would be)

Here are some more crude drawings: